264- Building Resilient Networks Amid Political Change

Join us as Brother Gregory returns with his compelling insights on governance and personal responsibility. What happens when we question the very framework of our political system, like the role of the Electoral College? Brother Gregory discusses the potential domino effects of its removal and how we might circle back to a governance model where responsibilities rest more with the community rather than entrenched political systems. Through a blend of historical analysis and biblical teachings, he lays out the blueprint for a society that is both just and free, urging us to look beyond media narratives and foster resilient local networks.

The power of community takes center stage as we explore stories from the early Christian church to the French Underground. Brother Gregory argues that organized, trust-based communities are our strongest defense against corruption. Drawing parallels between historical and present-day challenges, he offers a roadmap for building communities that prioritize collective well-being over individual gain. With disillusionment spreading through media and politics, these lessons in community resilience are more vital than ever. Brother Gregory calls us to action, encouraging us to form strong networks that can weather any storm.

We confront the broader socio-political issues of our time, from the intricacies of Trump's presidency to global economic shifts. Brother Gregory’s narrative spins a tale that interweaves political complexities with the timeless values of community service and charity. By revisiting the teachings of Moses, Jesus, and early church practices, he prompts us to rethink societal welfare and rediscover the strength in faith and communal responsibility. As modern challenges loom, Brother Gregory inspires a movement toward community unity, reminding us that true freedom and resilience are rooted in mutual support and shared responsibility.

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Chapters

• 0:11 Political Commentary on Current Events
• 18:14 Building Community Against Corruption
• 23:42 Community Welfare and Independent Ideology
• 29:16 Political and Social Issues Complexity
• 45:40 Social Welfare Systems and History
• 59:39 Community Unity Through Service and Trust
• 1:13:26 Restoring Community Responsibility and Strength
• 1:19:11 Community Building Through Networking and Charity
• 1:32:48 Restoring Community Through Faith and Responsibility

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:11

welcome everyone to politically high tech with your host, elias. Guess what? You can even blame me for even demanding this guest to come back. Oh, we actually agreed. Well, because I think he was great. I mean two episodes worth of him being hypercharged, not just hypercharged. If he could be hypercharged it'd be silly and nonsensical.

Speaker 1: 0:34

This one here has a lot of historical Christian wisdom. I don't know, I could go on for two hours like that. I'm practically half his age. After like two hours of that. I'm practically half his age. After like two hours of that my brain would be mush, fried and I'll be speaking gobbledygook, okay, after like three hours in. Oh everybody, how he's to recharge this coming so was at least half of his age. Trust me, he don't look it. But he, young, energy, spirit, wise, okay, he is young, all right, he, he could do a joe rogan thing speak for three hours straight. I'm sure he'll do that, no problem. You know his average interviews are three hours long. I'm not sure I could even do that. Um, that's why I'm developing these vocal and mental muscle, if you will.

Speaker 1: 1:24

But enough of my self-disparaging we're gonna talk about. I'm bringing a little bit of the random element, but we have a starting point. I think a good starting point is post-election slash, pre-inauguration. Okay, I'm going to repeat that again post-election pre-inauguration, and you know what? I think we can even talk about even a couple of Trump picks. Some are, you know, wild and some are questionable, depending on what camp you are at. If you like it, it's exciting, right, but I'm going to try to keep this as neutral as possible.

Speaker 1: 2:07

So I'm going to introduce a returning guest, very, very popular, the most popular as of now Brother Gregory. Okay, he's super popular for obvious reasons. Two great episodes, two great episodes. I'll link them right there. I'll link them in the description. Okay, if you want to watch them, because this is the third episode. Second interview, third episode okay, there's a reason why he has come back. If someone's super great, I see it, I'm going to go for it. The only way it's not going to happen is the person either ignores me, don't want to do it anymore. Look, I can't force anybody. You want me to put a gun through the screen and just force the person to come and say yo, you better come into my podcast. No, I can't do that. Even if I wanted to, I'm not going to do that. That's ungodly, by the way you know, not respecting the person's free will, so anyway.

Speaker 2: 2:59

So let's reintroduce For those of you who haven't paid attention for the first time, but they were descending into a totalitarian dictatorship where the people were so weak they couldn't get rid of the corruption in the Roman government. Once you understand what they were actually doing in history, you can tell what the future is. But just before we started talking and the theme is. But just before we started talking and the theme is, you know, post-election and pre-inauguration. I pointed out on one of our shows just recently you know after the election that you know he's not an elected president. The Electoral College has to meet and they're the ones who actually elect him as president. It's not not popular vote. Yet they want to do away with the electoral college. I think that would be a really bad idea. But what I think is really good idea is people start understanding what is required to have a free government and what is required to prevent corruption from creeping into your government, because it's crept in for a lot of years.

Speaker 2: 4:08

I've been around for a lot of years, but corruption is galloping and you know what's going to happen. You know you're 22 bullet away from losing Trump. You lose Trump. You know it's going to change the game but again, like I said, the game is not going to save you. We're not out of the woods. Yet People have to start understanding how a free government actually operates, and that operates when most of the responsibility of governing is back in the hands of the people. Now trump talks about that. You know education department leaving the federal government and going back to the states.

Speaker 2: 4:56

But you know, I I know a lot of people in the state governments and they're pretty corrupt, so that you know giving it back. You know giving it back to the states, giving it back to the counties. I have a son who's a county commissioner in this Lake County here. He knows all the other commissioners all over the whole state and they're not above corruption. And one of the most dangerous things is a lot of people don't realize that they are corrupt because they have corrupt ideas they think are good, they think are moral, they think are uh, okay, uh. And you know, like you were just saying that if you uh, you can't coerce people into coming on to your podcast, you can't take away their right to choose. Well, this is what Christ was restoring when he restored the kingdom. A lot of people don't know that. They think the kingdom was postponed.

Speaker 1: 5:56

Brother Gregory, what do you want the listeners and the viewers to know about you?

Speaker 2: 6:09

viewers to know about you. Uh, well, uh, you know the first, one of the first shows that we did together. There was a one place in there I I was throwing out chunks of information that most people are unaware of concerning the bible, concerning, you know, what the Bible was really all about and a lot of religious texts are about, but you wouldn't know that by talking to people who preach the Bible. The idea you know, like I said, that one of the first guys to translate the Bible, wycliffe. In the foreword it says this is a book for the government of the people, for the people and by the people, the government of the people, for the people and by the people. The Bible is actually telling you how to become free, stay free, and gives you lots of warnings about things you don't want to do as a society that will take your liberty and freedom away. And you wouldn't know that going to churches, I went to seminaries. I was going to a seminary back in the 60s and they weren't teaching me that, but there's so much in our history that we don't know. We. We just saw.

Speaker 2: 7:13

You know trump was elected. Since that's part of the topic, we'll bounce off of that. He was elected the first time and the washington establishment was doing every single thing it could to cripple his time in office and he hired a lot of different people to be in his cabinet and to be part of his team and a lot of them were really bad choices and he's probably making some bad choices now. But he's got an awful lot of people that are thinking out of the box. I mean, he's got two prominent Democrats that were promoting him. Actually, joe Rogan was a Democrat. He voted for Bernie Sanders, so there's a lot of people that were Democrats that are now supporting Trump. But the idea that Trump is going to do away with the corruption in Washington DC, he's going to drain the swamp nobody's going to do that. It's absolutely impossible and there is so much corruption, it's so deep.

Speaker 2: 8:26

This is kind of the way it was when Jesus Christ came back, in the early days of Herod he was born and the early days of the Roman Empire. Augustus Caesar was the first Caesar of Rome. Now Rome had. Caesar was the first Caesar of Rome. Now Rome had been around for 400, 500 years, but as an imperial power and a democratic socialist-type government most people don't know. The emperors were elected to office by an electoral college, at least at the beginning.

Speaker 2: 9:07

No, there was millions of people who became Christians and they were taking care of all the social welfare in an international network of charity that operated locally and internationally without a central treasury and made it through the decline and fall of the Roman Empire. A lot of people didn't become Christians. Some people were sympathetic to the Christians, some people were supportive of the Christians, but what they were actually doing most people don't even know. They don't teach you. If you go to the seminary, they don't even teach you what the conflict was between the Christians. You know, they talk about martyrs and all this kind of stuff.

Speaker 2: 9:56

Christians were extremely successful and they were thriving even when the Roman Empire was collapsing. But the people who got into trouble, the people who were persecuted they get all the press and of course, the churches hold those up those are the martyrs and all this. But a lot of Christians weren't martyred, they were protected, they were held in high esteem and eventually rome. You know, 300 years after christ, rome emulated what christianity was doing, with some minor changes that have made a major difference and has really brought us all back into systems of corruption. You go to Germany, you can go to France, you can go to.

Speaker 2: 10:53

I hear a lot goes on in Sweden, because my daughter-in-law is from Sweden, great Britain. I have a son-in-law from Great Britain, we have people in our network from Australia, so the corruption is everywhere and the people are such a scattered flock that all they can do is complain about it on Facebook and YouTube, and if you do too much of that, somebody censors you. So, yeah, the solution is that you have to create a network of people outside of the controlled media, outside of the public institutions, and you have to bind that network of people together by something that creates bonds that don't break under extreme stress, because there's billions and billions, trillions of dollars at stake. If Trump gets in and does half the things that he says he wants to do, ass fortunes are going to start slipping and a vast amount of power and control is going to start slipping out of the hands of the corrupt swamp. I'm calling it a swamp, a cabal, whatever.

Speaker 1: 12:14

A deep state.

Speaker 2: 12:16

A deep state. Yeah, there's lots of different names for it and nobody can really put their finger exactly on what it is, because it isn't necessarily some guy, you know, in a big mansion petting a white cat. It's a spirit that dwells in people who don't mind forcing their neighbor, don't mind taking away the choice of their neighbor. They think that's perfectly okay. They think that's perfectly okay. They think it should be within their power to control the unwashed masses. And this has really been the battle. You go back to Edmund Burke, you can go back, you know, at the beginning of the Enlightenment age. You know pre Jefferson, the Enlightenment age, pre-jefferson and even during Jefferson. They're talking about these inalienable rights and they're trying to create institutions that protect those rights. And really, the fundamental spirit or essence of a free nation is either written in the people or not. If it's not written in the people, those people will be manipulated. Christ referred to it. As they dwell in darkness, they just can't see the danger. We just saw that. You know, millions of people did vote for Kamala, millions of people did vote for Biden. I don't think we had honest elections. But you know, with mail-in ballots, I don't think we've had an honest election here in Oregon since they brought in mail-in ballots. Has it always made a difference? Well, there hasn't been a Republican elected to governor in Oregon since they went to mail-in ballots and they don't have to do it. You know, I'm in a little county. There's only like 8,000 people. Well, actually it's one of the biggest counties but there's only 8,000 people in this county, so we literally know all the voters. Nobody's stealing the vote in this county. But you go up to the metropolitan area counties Portland, eugene, salem, you don't know. You could actually watch where, all of a sudden, at midnight, huge volumes of votes started shifting and we saw this in many other states. But there was such an overwhelming support for Trump Because there's this backlash.

Speaker 2: 14:55

But the amount of stupid things that they allowed Kamala to do, the fact she seemed to be put in place as the sacrificial lamb. They wanted Trump in office. They didn't want the powers that be. They did not want Kamala in office. They didn't care. Oh, they would have worked harder, they would have picked somebody different. They're not absolutely insane, but that's what they did. Maybe you can just say they're all stupid, but I don't think so. I think the guys are really pulling the strings. They want Trump in power because they're going to pull something else and it probably won't work to pull another pandemic, but the banking system and the money system that is under a lot of danger.

Speaker 2: 15:49

And there's terrorist groups in California and Pennsylvania. They've taken over hotels, motels, apartments. They have guns there and nobody's doing anything about it. It's been brought to the attention of the authorities in California, I know, and they don't do anything about it. It should be. I could tell you if it was a bunch of white supremacists they would have raided those places already. You don't even hear about it on the news. So they've got some sort of plan. Exactly what it is, I don't know.

Speaker 2: 16:25

But the solution is to create a network of people who care about your life, your rights, their neighbor's rights, their neighbor's life, their neighbor's children, as much as they care about their own, as much as they care about their own. If you gleaned everybody in America who has that spirit and you counted them up, it might only be 5, 10, 20% of Americans. I mean, right now we saw in North Carolina when they had the hurricane, all these people showed up from everywhere and they really made a difference. It wasn't FEMA that was saving anybody, it was the fact that FEMA was actually a detriment in many ways, even with all the money that's thrown into that. But the people showed up for each other. But those people showed up. Their family wasn't hungry at home, there hadn't been a bank collapse, there wasn't wide power outages over a third of the nation or half of the nation. We get a situation like that and it's going to be really difficult.

Speaker 2: 17:37

So the sooner you create that network of people who actually not only care about one another as much as they care about themselves, care about one another's rights as much as they care about their own, you create an intimate network of people who do that. Create your own systems. You know my aide that was helping us set up this because I moved to a different computer. He could set up all the cell phones in the valley so that they all talked to one another and he could do it in short order. He could write the software himself.

Speaker 2: 18:14

We have a lot of skilled people out there that can do all kinds of things, but they're a scattered flock. They have to learn to come together and that's what Christ was teaching. You wouldn't know that Christ only commanded his disciples, his student ministers, one time. He commanded that they organize the people in the tens, hundreds and thousands. If you go back in history, the most predominant form of free government throughout the whole history of man that you know, our recorded history, is the tens, hundreds and thousands of people. During World War II, the French Underground. Organized in the same fashion, they would have.

Speaker 1: 19:02

Just a second. Go ahead. You said a lot of important points. Okay, community seems to be the antidote against corruption. I love that message. I want to emphasize something because a lot of people, putting your hopes in the present is a form of idolatry, correct?

Speaker 1: 19:23

It's a dangerous concept because no matter where you are in the present, it's going to change Right. Sadly, a lot of people do, and I think the media, both the left and the right, has that concept for whatever champions their ideas or whatever, so I like that Build a community of people who cares about the community and others instead of just themselves we.

Speaker 2: 19:48

You know, the covet thing actually started waking that up and a lot of people, but they didn't know what to do. They didn't, they didn't have the connections. You know, you, to have such a community, you have to build trust on a local basis. You know, like you were talking about a lot of the choices that Trump's making. You know a lot of these people that he's pulling out. You know, I don't know a lot of those people. They're far away. I do know people that are in government and I can check with them and find out what they think about them. They may have met them, but I haven't met them, and that's what a network has to do and you start learning who you can trust.

Speaker 2: 20:31

The word community comes from the same source as the word communion. The early church communion wasn't a way for a bread. I can show you gatherings of Christians 100 AD, 150 AD. They were bundles of grain, shiploads of grain. They were sacks of bread that were being distributed.

Speaker 2: 20:58

There were durfs or famines that were running across the Roman Empire because of that corruption, and then there were volcanic eruptions like Vesuvius and Pompeii and Hercules before that. These are major seaport towns. There were other problems that would be coming up in the next two, three hundred years. Foreign invasions, etc. Disrupting economies, disrupt invasions etc. Disrupting economies, disrupting the flow of grain. People were going to starve but Christians, we see right out of the box, were bringing shiploads of grain to places and caravanning grain into places.

Speaker 2: 21:42

And then when there had to be evacuations of an area like Pompeii, we know there were Christians living in Pompeii. We know that some of the Christians you can only tell how many, some of them, because they're only excavating some of them but we know, in some of the excavation sites, we know there was a Christian baker who lived there and we know it by a lot of reasons. I won't go into all the detail, but he knew he had to get out of town days before Vesuvius erupted because he was actually taking stuff off the wall. He was packing stuff up. There were things that were in that bakery shop that had just left, and he went and got out of town. He got out of Dodge, so to speak. How did he know to get out? How did he know? Where did he go to? Did he know? Did he have some place that he could go to? Well, that thing is that christianity, right out of the box, had a network of christians that were in touch with one another through those tens, hundreds and thousands all over the roman empire and beyond, and they had bonds that they were creating because, you know, when they had problems in Syria, people in Corinth sent food by way of this network. Galatia sent money through Corinth and through Paul to Jerusalem to buy grain and move it through Ephesus over to other people. They were creating bonds and connections all over the Roman Empire and so when Christians had to evacuate a particular area, either because of volcanoes or earthquakes or invasions, they had a place to go. They had contacts in those other places.

Speaker 2: 23:42

We just did a show on X. You talk about long shows. I think it was five hours and it was at the end of the day, when I'm often getting a little bit more tired. But we still have that up on our IsChurchX site that you can go listen to the recording.

Speaker 2: 24:02

We had over 500 people on the call, but a lot of them had a lot of different ideas and opinions, and this is why we put all of our recordings up, all of our articles up, all of our books are up for free, because there's an awful lot of information that people don't have. Like, how do you organize a free church? How do you? Because most churches are not free, they're corporations. One of the things that just came out, uh, about a week and a half ago, is that, uh, people were sending food and supplies, clothing, because people lost everything in north carolina, and they were sending them to schools and other public buildings to be distributed to the needy, and FEMA came in and confiscated it all, and what they didn't do is they didn't confiscate what was sent to churches. Now they will when things get really bad.

Speaker 2: 25:03

But if you properly organized your church and we talked about this on the last X Call and I brought it up on our we have at least five hours of broadcast, or anywhere between three and five hours of broadcast on Saturday, every Saturday, in different stations, and then we make them all available through our network. We have a network at preparingyoucom and hisholdchurchorg that you can join and it's based on geography. If you join in Texas, you'll be on the Texas group, but the Texas group is tied to the Florida group and tied to the Australian group, and so, because you have that, tens, hundreds and thousands. But the important thing is that really there's a certain ideology with the idea of caring about other people's rights, but you create the bonds, the trustworthy bonds, by actually providing that communion, that welfare. Unfortunately, or fortunately, however you want to look at it, most of the people that are in the network now are fiercely independent. They almost never need help. They've changed their diet. They're all pretty healthy people. Most of the time we're helping people that aren't in the network, but hopefully the network will grow.

Speaker 2: 26:28

Uh, but uh, this is what the early church was doing. This is what moses was doing. Uh, he was teaching the people how to take care of one another, so that they didn't have to go to pharaoh, so they didn't need a central bank and they were taller, stronger, healthier. Their families were more united. If you look at what Judea was doing at the time of Christ, that was not what Moses had told them to do. You know, pile up stone and burn up sheep. Moses never said to do that. There's nothing in the Bible that should let you think that Moses was out there piling up rocks and burning up sheep.

Speaker 2: 27:13

But everybody does Because we're told that's what it says. Well, we show you that's not what it says and we can break down a lot of those misconceptions. Same with the government. You know you don't necessarily want to be a citizen of the united states, you want to be an american. There was no citizen of the united states in 1850. Nobody said they were a citizen of the united states. They were a citizen of the individual States. They were a citizen of the individual states and the states were as foreign to each other as Mexico is to Canada. That's right out of the Supreme Court.

Speaker 1: 27:53

Most people don't know that. I think we still have that pride today. Oh, I'm a New Yorker.

Speaker 2: 28:01

Yeah, and I don't know what that means. Well, here we got the gay community. You know I guess they're LBGTQ, whatever They've got these initials and they call it a community. They have no communion, they're not taking care of one another, they're not providing for one another, they're just online communities. If there was a shortage of food, they're not going to come to each other's aid because they all depend on the government for their communion, their welfare, their social security, their disability or whatever their transgender operation.

Speaker 2: 28:46

If you want a transgender operation, the transgender should get together and pay for it. If you want an abortion, the abortion community should pay for it. Why are you making people that want to have their children and don't want to have an abortion pay for your abortion? It's because we've turned the government into our priests. They're the ones who distribute the communion of the federal government. And now we got Trump going into office saying well, you're not going to have a federal educational department. They're all. What is it? They all dread the doge. They're afraid of the Department of Government Efficiency that is going to start cutting back. And you have to. I mean, elon said it. You know you. You can't just keep spending more than you got coming in.

Speaker 2: 29:49

of course, we should have realized this about 50 years ago exactly right, you're being taxed by inflation and you think we've had inflation bad. Well, they can control inflation to a certain degree, but we've got countries all over the world that are starting to bail on the US dollar and it could suddenly make all kinds of things extremely expensive. But they're not going to take this Trump win sitting down. They've got a plan and they're going to disrupt either the economy, politics in general. They're not going to have necessarily the control of the Senate and the Congress, but they're still out there sticking their finger in the pie and mixing around. It is great to see Americans starting to wake up, starting to wake up. A lot more waking up they got to do. I mean, you can't even cover it all, you know, and that's why you can't be slothful in this. You have to try to learn how you create a community uh, not only on a local basis, but on a national and international basis and you have to create bonds in that community that actually mean something, and I don't know if we have enough time to do it. I think it will take a miracle to save us and Trump being in office. Do not get giddy that that's going to save you. It's not going to save you. The corruption is far deeper than you imagine and unfortunately, a lot of that corruption is in us and even though we can be nice to one another now and say, yeah, we care about this, one of the big pet peeves I have with the modern church is that they I think you can love your neighbor sitting in a pew. No, you want to love your neighbor, you got to get out there.

Speaker 2: 32:11

I mean one of the things we just saw with COVID and everything I was just being told. I know people that work at the hospital and there are numerous people who are assisting everybody to get a shot. They're dead. The death toll at the hospital is unbelievable. Doctors died of heart attacks. People died of clotting, estranged clotting. Several of them got turbo cancers, multiple turbo cancers, and have died. Well, we've seen more people die who were vaccinated than we ever saw die of COVID and if month and year we wrote about it at the time, we warned people at the time. Unfortunately, I live in the least vaccinated county on the West Coast because of the work that we were doing.

Speaker 2: 33:04

We were showing there were studies out that said, oh you know, I want to vaccinate for this because you might get some spike protein in your system, and that's what's causing this sterility. That's what's attacking the immune system, and it's an unnatural spike protein, but it's very similar to a natural protein found in your own immune system, so it creates a confusion. It's breaking down the immune system of people. And then there's the problem of nanoparticles that seem to be self-assembling. Is there a frequency that can speed that up in your system? Well, I get a lot of information coming in here from people I even know. So you know.

Speaker 2: 33:53

There's a lot of rumors going around on the Internet. You never know with AI, you never know who to believe and who not to believe. Being on Twitter doesn't put you in a network that you can trust. Being on Twitter doesn't put you in a network that you can trust. It's a lot better than it used to be, but there's all kinds of misinformation out there. Being online doesn't put you in a network. It's just a form of communication, the network I'm talking about. You know who you can trust because you have a relationship with them, but you're not just looking at your little neighborhood network.

Speaker 2: 34:34

With what I see coming down the line. Uh, it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better, and that's another reason why I warn people about this. Getting this. We got Trump in. He's doing all these things, he's planning all this stuff. Of course, if you're in the I hate Trump club side of the equation, well then you can titillate your feelings because you imagine that he will fail. Well, I think he will ultimately fail because it's too much. He's just not going to be able to do it. I'm not doubting his sincerity. I'm not doubting that he's got a lot of smart guys following him and going to be working with him, but the enemy has been at this for a long time. They're not just going to flee away in the darkness, they're going to pull something else Let me interrupt for a second.

Speaker 1: 35:34

I think you said something very important that I think needs to be re-emphasized it's because you elect your favorite person, it doesn't mean it's resolved. The battle has really just begun. If anything, this is just stage one and, just like you said, there's going to be ways to throw curveballs, and you already said that the system is so corrupt that it's impossible for a team if you will him and his team to clean house.

Speaker 2: 36:06

I mean you could do some, but Well, they're certainly going to make waves and make a difference. And I've already seen I mean you've already seen on the international scope of things that a lot of the saber rattling. And you know, I think the Ukraine war, that wasn't a war on anything but the united states and the ukraine, uh. Now almost nobody even knows why russia is trying to stop what was going on the ukraine, uh, and you, we could get into that the geopolitics of that and everything. But you could have avoided that war easily and without a loss of all the lives that we've seen. I know people from the Ukraine. All you did is kill Ukrainian people.

Speaker 2: 37:07

People make a lot of the corrupt people in ukraine rich. Uh, they've got all their money other places like france and and switzerland and all that stuff. It was one of the most corrupt governments to begin with because it was far too socialist. Whenever you have a socialist government, you start getting corrupt, uh, people, uh, sweden has started to realize that, but that you know they roll back their socialism. It used to be their social security. I mean, you could owe more taxes in sweden so that the tax amount that you owe was more than you actually brought in back in the 60s and 70s and they realized this isn't going to work. So they privatized a great deal of their social welfare. That you're actually a member of a private social security system. They still have the number you still have to. You know that your social security number is your. Have the number you still have to. You know that your social security number is your badge of servitude.

Speaker 2: 38:12

If you look in the bible, they talk about revelations. Everybody thinks, oh, they're going to come up with a mark on the beast where you, you'll get a number from the beast and you. They always are telling you you won't be able to buy or sell if you don't have that number. It doesn't say that. It says you might not be able to buy or sell, that they will cause that you might not be able to buy or sell. Then you have to look at the idiom. That means enter into the marketplace. You don't have a social security number, you can't have a bank account, you can't get a job, you're not going to have a debit card or a credit card. They're making it so that you won't be able to fly. If you look at Title 42, section 666 of the United States codes, it says that you can't get a license to drive, a license to marry, a license to be a doctor. You can't be a barber without a Social Security number. That's what Title 42, section 6-6 says and has said for quite a while in the United States. You're not going to be able to get your national id. You won't be able to get on a plane supposedly, uh, but it's actually causing that.

Speaker 2: 39:38

You might not be able to buy or sell, but if there's a, if there's a major power outage around the planet, which is very possible if there's a bike collapse, dollar collapse, where a loaf of bread is $500, you don't think we can get to. That of wheat in Rome at the time of Jesus Christ, which was 30 pounds, a modius of wheat. They could lift more than 30 pounds, but their sacks weren't that good, but that would normally be. A modius of wheat was 30 pound bag of wheat. It was six denarii, that's like six times 60 cents for 30 pounds. By the time diacletian came along it was 120,000 denarii. Why? Because there was no more silver in the denarii. They had runaway inflation and price controls, all things that Kamala was talking about. Price controls you could actually some of their price controls on the shipping markets carried the death penalty, but it didn't work because they had removed valuable money from circulation, they'd gone off the silver and gold standard and, of course, we did that back in the 30s and 70s. So, yeah, we're way down the road of corruption and a lot of the corruption isn't even the corrupt politicians in Washington DC or the corrupt bureaucrats in Washington DC.

Speaker 2: 41:21

In 1961, william O Douglas, who was a Supreme Court judge. In 1961, william O Douglas, who was a Supreme Court judge, said that New George III is the vast bureaucracy that, regardless of who you elect, stays in place. That's what Trump is going to try to do is remove some of that bureaucracy. It's so big, it's millions of people that are going to be looking for a job and they're not going to look for a job that you have to work at. They're going to look for a job like the one they've had working for the government, where you don't necessarily have to work that hard in many government jobs. So we knew that back in 61. We were were told that, but we didn't do anything about it.

Speaker 2: 42:12

Uh, we, if you go back to the 50s, in the 40s people were dividing communities then because if somebody, if you went, let's go back to the 20s and I've seen this in small towns and I've lived in small towns, big cities and all this stuff. But if somebody got sick, everybody in town was going to do something for that guy, if they liked him. If they didn't like him, they would even make sure that he didn't starve, even make sure that he didn't starve. But even in the small town south of us because I don't live in town we have a town that is about 40 miles away and it's only got 300 people in it. So I'm out in the sticks, out in the woods, so to speak, except we're out in the desert. But if somebody got sick or had an operation and came home and couldn't fend for themselves very well, their big problem is what are they going to do with all the food everybody in town brings over to your house? And so the women got smart and they cook in shifts. He will not have to fix any food for his recovery and that's because they have this small town view of things. They're going to help you out. In the cities you could die in your apartment and nobody's going to knock on your door until the stench gets so bad that somebody calls somebody else to come and check on you, because we're a scattered flock, we're not communities, we're not working together anymore because we've looked to the government 150 years before Christ was even born.

Speaker 2: 43:57

Historian of historians wrote that when the people develop an appetite for benefits and the habit of receiving them by the rule of force and violence At the expense of others, they will institute the rule of force and violence and degenerate into perfect savages, finding once more a monarch and a king. There's a little bit more to it, but that's the basics of it and that was written, you know, I've quoted it in books, I've quoted it in articles. The greatest destroyers of liberty this was written at the time of Christ by Plutarch is he who spreads amongst them gifts, gratuities and benefits. If you want to weaken a society, you give it free bread, free bread and circuses, and that's going to weaken the people, divide the people, because if you're not taking care of one another, you're isolating yourself, you're not going to create those bonds of trust, and that's what the early church started doing. That was the chief complaint that Jesus had with the Pharisees. Their system of sacrifice had moved from freewill offerings which is what it says in the Old Testament in the Old Testament to forced offerings, in other words taxation. They were taxing the people to provide social welfare. If you do that, you're going to destroy your society.

Speaker 2: 45:40

Historians have told us this time and time again throughout the centuries. The Bible is full of it. You know, in 1099, I got a book here. The cover of the book has Lady Godiva on it. I'll hold it up to the camera. She's fully dressed. That's Lady Godiva there. She never took off her clothes. She never rode through the streets naked. She took off her clothes. She never rode through the streets naked. She took off her wealth. That the king wanted to impose a tax on the people to go to the church so the church would take care of the needy of the people. They'd be funded by taxation. She said we can't do that, it'll destroy the nation. She knew this way back then. She was the richest woman in Great Britain. She's the only woman that's mentioned in what they call the Doomsday Book, which is the books of the land surveys that are done by the king when the land falls under the authority of the king.

Speaker 1: 46:44

Another long story, but anyway that's the Free Church Report, our picture's on it.

Speaker 2: 46:48

Because she said if we don't take care of the needy of our society through charity, we will degenerate as a society. We will lose our communion, our community. We will end up not trusting one another. We will become, the translation says, perfect savages. That's what Polybius calls us.

Speaker 1: 47:13

But what it means is we've become this scattered flock Go ahead. Yeah, so all I was going to say is this is a very valuable lesson, so we've been taught this. Obviously, it's felt on deaf ears.

Speaker 2: 47:28

Well, it has been taught.

Speaker 2: 47:30

It's been removed from your school books. Right Out of my shop I have a collection of school books that goes the whole wall length, and when I was collecting them, I'm reading these books to figure out how to teach my own children, because my kids were home taught. We don't send our kids to public school. The only time my kids went to public school was to teach other kids, but they've never been to school. Actually, I had one daughter who went on to college for a little bit, but she actually runs the local school pretty much. But uh, the the reality is is that, uh, it was in there and it was taught. You know, I I ended up going to private schools. I've never been to public school either when I was growing up.

Speaker 2: 48:25

But I've read old history books. I've got history books that go way back and they change the way we look at history. We don't know our own history. We don't know how a free society works, and it's interesting there. I probably can't remember it exactly, but Augustus Caesar wrote that because he was one of the most instrumental leaders that moved Rome from a republic to an indirect democracy and an imperial totalitarian dictatorship.

Speaker 2: 49:02

Many of the programs he put in place was going to change Romans. Now Julius Caesar was doing it before, but he never became the actual emperor. The day he thought he'd go down and get his crown, they stabbed him a bunch of times, and not the solution either. The solution is that people have to take back their responsibilities. If you want your rights, you have to take back their responsibilities. If you want your rights, you have to take back your responsibilities, because the way it works now is that, oh, we want government benefits. Well now, absolutely lazy, immoral, drug addict people won't change their diet, won't do anything for their health, won't do anything to make themselves a better person. They're on the government dole and you have to pay for it.

Speaker 2: 49:55

That was the plan of people like Cloward and Pippin, who have planned to bankrupt America through its social welfare system. They wrote books about it. That was their plan to bankrupt America through its social welfare system. They wrote books about it. That was their plan to bankrupt America. They were a part of getting as many people on welfare as they possibly could, because it would eventually break down the family, bankrupt America and then they could bring in communism, totalitarian control. Then they wrote about it. These are college professors and they visited obama in the white house.

Speaker 2: 50:31

Many times the newspaper people didn't tell you that his best friends wanted to destroy america and been writing a plan on how to do it for 40 years. I mean, their books are available. We've got articles that prepare you, give you just a glimpse of what they were planning. But that's the plan. Break down the family, break down community, make people dependent upon the government. And so the way you do that is people develop an appetite for benefits and the habit of receiving them at the expense of others, depending for their livelihood on the property of others. That was another one of the. That's more on the line of the actual quote.

Speaker 2: 51:18

And then instituting the rules. You know the institutions, or rules of force and violence. John the Baptist came along and said no, you don't do it that way. If you have an extra coat and your neighbor has none, you share with them. Do the same with meats. You do it through voluntary, because that's how you create those bonds of trust.

Speaker 2: 51:41

Now, there's a lot of people out there that won't want to do that, but that's what the Christians were doing and that's why they were hated. The problem today is most of the Christians go to the government for their social welfare. They go to the government for their free bread. They go to the government for their health care, and Jesus said it was not to be that way with us. He said it in Matthew, he said it in Mark, he said it in Luke You're not to be like the governments of the Gentiles, who call themselves benefactors but exercise authority one over the other. Well, that's what modern Christians are doing. I've got a bunch of people showing up tomorrow to talk to me about organizing their existing church as a free church, as a church that doesn't do that, and you know I've spent the last 50 years figuring out how to do that. Actually, I'll talk about it on the radio broadcast tomorrow. I'll bring it up.

Speaker 2: 52:50

You know so many things that were in the Bible are symbolic. You know I said it earlier in this show that we weren't to. You know, moses wasn't telling people to pile up rocks, kill sheep and set them on fire. That isn't what he was telling people to pile up rocks, kill sheep and set them on fire. That isn't what he was telling people to do. He didn't tell them to build a temple made out of stone. He told them not to do that.

Speaker 2: 53:22

As a matter of fact, when they built the tabernacle, they weren't even supposed to go to the tabernacle and worship, you know, sing songs at the tabernacle or whatever they think worshiping is. They were to worship from the door of their own tents. I mean, it says over and over again in the Old Testament it was returning every man to the family and every man to his possessions. What Cloward and Piven and the communists want to do is break down the family, family and every man to his possessions. What Cloward and Piven and the communists want to do is break down the family and take all your possessions so that you have nothing and you still are happy, except where you won't be happy, but painting a smile on your face or something like that.

Speaker 1: 54:07

But that's what they sell, that's the propaganda that they sell them.

Speaker 2: 54:09

Of course, yeah, but it's not going to work because the ultimate goal is that most of you be dead. They don't want 7 billion people, 8 billion people on the planet. They're telling you oh well, all star bro, we're using up our natural resources. You know it's amazing. You know this guy like Elon Musk comes along and he says, no, the resources are fine. You know we have to conserve them, but they're fine. I wouldn't take everything that he says as gospel, but he is a pretty smart guy and he thinks that we're facing population collapse and anybody who actually studies it. He's absolutely right.

Speaker 2: 54:53

And now, with billions of people inoculated, with this vaccine which we wrote about before it was even on the market, we told you because I read the peer-reviewed published statements from people like Suzuki on Preparing you, you can look it up that this was going to be devastating. To try to vaccinate into a so-called pandemic. I don't think it was that severe of a pandemic. It was about as bad as a bad blue year and it wouldn't even have been that bad if we were paying attention to our health. And those topics are coming up with people like Kennedy and Brother Kelly and Kylie or whatever it is Means. They're super bright people telling you that you are poisoning yourselves. They're poisoning you, but you're voluntarily putting these foods into your mouth and you think they're good for you or you think that they taste okay. It's killing Americans. It's killing America. It's killing your children. Our death rate in America is just ridiculous. We're supposed to be this in our health rate.

Speaker 2: 56:19

70% of the young men in America are unfit for military service. Well, with what's coming in the future, we'll be back to the militia again. And the militia, you know that's another thing. People don't even know what a militia is. A militia, according to the US codes, includes every able-bodied man between the ages of 17 and 45. That's what the code says. You're already in the militia. If you're between 17 and 45, and theoretically able-bodied, you're already in the militia. Well, for the last 20, 30 years, they've been feeding your children, so that 70% of your men, young men, are not able-bodied. And how many kids have autism? How many kids have autoimmune diseases? That's the plague, and they're not talking about it. If you look at the data, that's the plague and they're not talking about it. If you look at the data, that's the plague. But all that's reversible. That may take generations before we can reverse all of it. But if you gather together, there are people who know what you can do for your health. You talk about.

Speaker 2: 57:42

I'm three quarters of a century old plus and I was out working out in the field today. I moved a ton of concrete mix and Portland cement yesterday by myself, took it out of the desert, loaded it into a storage unit out there because I have to pour a slab and I'm going to haul already hauled you know a couple tons of gravel, but I got to haul more. But here I am talking to you and then I'll. I'll be up tonight or tomorrow night. I'll probably be up on another X call for three or four hours. You know, the first time I went to a bunch of local ministers they had them gathered, it was 10 hours before they were wore out and I was the one doing all the talking. Where do I get all that energy? Uh, actually I did eat something, but normally this is about the time I eat, because I only eat about a meal a day and according to all my doctors when I was a kid, I wasn't going to make it

Speaker 2: 59:03

to 20. How correct they are. They are so correct. The secret is that when I was about 14, I told my parents I said I'm not going to the doctor. Even if I die, I'm not going to the doctor, and they said, okay. I evidently sounded determined and it saved me. I immediately started getting more healthy.

Speaker 2: 59:32

But no, there's a lot of mysterious things that we don't know, we have not even a clue of. But the more you start living your life caring about other people, it will awaken you in ways. It will make you aware of things that you could not be aware of before. And that's what Christ was saying. You know that people live in darkness. They don't have the ears to hear or the eyes to see. Some people out there are going to start getting this. But Christ gave us the secret that if you lay down your life for others for my sake, he says and of course, christ came to serve Worship means to serve. If you do that, you'll be able to pick up your life more abundantly. Because I've done that, information has come to me that can improve your health and improve my health. Discipline has come to me, that what doesn't even seem like discipline. It seems easy and uh, and it, it turns your, it turns your whole life around. But if you keep going the way that you know, cloward and piven and the Communist Party want you to go and the Socialists want you to go, whatever you want to call it socialism, I always thought it was funny that the Socialists are fighting the Communists Because Karl Marx said he was for democratic socialism because it leads to communism. It leads to communism.

Speaker 2: 1:01:06

But the reason they got them fighting in Germany pre-Nazi Germany is because when they started fighting one another, then they could bring out the troops to bring order, and I kind of have a feeling that that is something that's going to come up. This is why we have so many of these armed groups from Iran and Venezuela and different places that are accumulating in small towns, sometimes in motels, sometimes in apartment buildings. We've heard a little bit of the news, but there's a lot more of that going on than has been published in the news. So I can imagine that some sort of their insurrection in the community starts and the American people, who are decent American people, who want to see law and order, don't want to see people killed or abused might bring out their guns and fight these guys that have been brought in here and are all over the country and then that will give governors like Newsom in California the license to take guns away from everybody both sides. Oh, we had to bring peace. That's what they did in Germany when they got the communists and the socialists fighting one another. Then they had to bring peace because there was gunfire in the streets. So that's probably definitely on the agenda eventually somewhere along the line.

Speaker 2: 1:02:36

And of course we know hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of people came in from China and Iraq and Iran or claim to be from these countries, and young men military age, these countries and young men military age. And we know I've seen the senators in Congress saying that we have to put these people on a fast. They passed a bill, put them on a fast track to get them into the military. They flew them to military bases and they immediately joined the US military and they've got US American uniforms now and they're in the military and they got US guns now. So are they the Hessians that might be called upon to bring order in the streets if somebody brings disorder? No, you want to follow the strategy of Christ. You don't want a violent insurrection. I'm all for somebody owning a gun. That's fine with me. I've got a 100-year-old sword up there on the cabinet. I love guns, I love machinery, I love things like that. They're all tools. But that isn't going to be the solution. The solution is that we have to come together, find out who we can trust, find out who really cares about one another. Everybody's going to say they care and in that process we're going to come together.

Speaker 2: 1:04:07

I raise sheep. That's one of the things I also do out on the desert and uh, like I said, I've told this I may even told it on your program that when I first brought sheep I bought model sheep. They're a mix of farm flock sheep and farm flocks have been in a fence farm and fence fields. So long they don't stick together, they're just interested in and going from one field to the next, fill their belly. That's what they're interested, because that's their pleasure is to. They want to go and fill their belly and they'll have offspring and all that stuff. But they're just they. They're not as interested in staying together.

Speaker 2: 1:04:48

Rain sheep, sheep that are out on the range, and our sheep, you know, they wander over 1,000 acres out here in the desert and they stay together. And we have cougars, we have wolves, we have, you know, coyotes and the sheep stay together. I don't have to make them stay together. Those old black-faced sheep, they about run my legs off trying to get them to stay together. But rain sheep, they don't live in a fenced field and if one of them gets injured they'll try to make room. If a coyote comes in the field or a bobcat or a mountain lion comes in the field, they'll get in a circle and they'll all face the danger and they'll put the young in the middle. You know muskox do that out in the tundra. But Americans, if bad things come, they run every different direction. They want to fill their freezer, they want to fill their closet, the idea of sharing well, I'm not going to share with them and a lot of people you don't really want to share with.

Speaker 2: 1:05:53

We took in a family just recently that were on hard times. They were all sick and we put them up. It was eight in the family. They ate a lot. They were all sick but they only stayed here about 10 days and then supposedly got work somewhere else. But they only stayed here about 10 days and then supposedly got work somewhere else. But they don't really understand kingdom and we helped them because there was clearly a need right there. But there will come a time where you can say well, you know, I'm sorry. I mean this is what Jesus has parables about this. The foolish virgins what's that all about? Is it really about virgins? What do they mean? These are symbolic of something and the foolish virgins are the people.

Speaker 2: 1:06:43

See, they were this system of social warfare started by Herod and the Pharisees, which they refer to as Corban of the Pharisees, and they identify it with words like the leaven of Herod and the leaven of the Pharisees. The word leaven in Hebrew doesn't just mean yeast, it means cruelty or oppression. Their system of social welfare was based on forced offerings, so they identify it with the leaven of Herod. Well, the people didn't sign up for that. They couldn't get any of those benefits, but they were free. This is why Jesus went to the Samaritans first, because nobody had gone to the Samaritans to try to get them to sign up to Herod's social welfare system. Because the Samaritans to try to get them to sign up to Herod's social welfare system, because the Samaritans were outside. You know, they were kind of shunned by the Jewish elite and Galilee wasn't signed up very heavy because it was a little bit different culture in Galilee. They had thick, different accents, probably like going down to the south or something. They had thick, different accents, probably like going down to the south or something.

Speaker 2: 1:07:57

But Jesus got them signed up with John the Baptist system. Well, john the Baptist system didn't have any forced offerings. They had a network and when you signed up with a baptism, see, herod baptized people into his system. He had actually two systems. He started One through the temple in Jerusalem, the other one through the temple of Roma, which he also built, but that was for Romans and for some Greeks. They would sign up for that, but it was still a social welfare system and they got a number when they signed up for that.

Speaker 2: 1:08:29

You didn't get a number when you signed up with John the Baptist, but you numbered yourselves. You organized in those tens, hundreds and thousands and so. But you also brought food when people needed it as a free will offering. It wasn't forced. You couldn't exercise authority one over the other. You couldn't take away the rights of your neighbor. You couldn't take away the bread of your neighbor. You had to hope that they would be there for you. This is why Christ is preaching faith, hope and charity.

Speaker 2: 1:09:01

Herod and the Pharisees were preaching force, fear and fealty. You are subject, but you could be kicked out. And of course Jesus got everybody who got the baptism of Jesus Christ kicked out and they were operating a different system, rightly dividing the bread from house to house. Herod's system was starting to go bankrupt already. And the thing is, if you went to our time and said, well, who's doing that today? Well, I can tell you who did it yesterday.

Speaker 2: 1:09:36

Fdr Churches don't have to take care of the needy of your society anymore. The government will do it. Well, you can sign up for Social Security and you'll get a number and they say, well, the Social Security payments will only be like 1.5%, maybe 2.5% at the most. It'll never go more than 3%. Well, you know, of course, now it's over 15%. But it also says in there that there's another tax and what it is is that you're waiving a right to a portion of your labor and that's where the income tax came from on wages and salaries. It's through that social security system and we write about it. We show you. I quote the book of the guy who invented the system, wrote it up up. I quote his book because I read his book, I read the act and then all the stuff that I wrote in the book Covenants of the Gods I took to Washington DC to Herbert Titus and Bob Olson attorneys that have been in front of the Supreme Court hundreds of times and they were blown away.

Speaker 2: 1:10:49

They thought this is it, this is the answer. But it's not real popular because you got to take back your responsibility. You got to actually start taking care of one another, because if you don't take care of one another, you just want to come out of the system. That's what that family wanted. Just come out of the system, get rid of your social security number. I don't know if he did or not, but that's kind of the impression I got.

Speaker 2: 1:11:13

But he ends up. He can't get work anywhere and he can't feed his family. He's fine with other people feeding his family, but he can't feed them, he can't take care of them. But he has no idea that the kingdom of God is about a network and this is how early America worked. You were a minute man for your neighbor, not because you got drafted. You were a minute man for your neighbor because you cared about your neighbor and you know that if you don't come to your neighbor when he's in trouble. He's not going to come for you when you're in trouble. They learned to stick together when they first came over from europe. They didn't quite have this and we wrote articles and show you how they figured this out. Pilgrims and strangers is one of the articles, but we've forgotten it again.

Speaker 2: 1:12:03

Yep and we forgot because we're depending upon the government go ahead.

Speaker 1: 1:12:08

Right, that's all. You said something that's very important, and I've been saying this for a while now Freedom comes with responsibility. We have obviously forgotten that. We want all the freebies, we want all the convenience. Right, government is our God and this is why we fall apart, and at that point I agree wholeheartedly. Well, it does come to. We fall apart, and that part I agree wholeheartedly, wholeheartedly Well it does come to the mind when you do that.

Speaker 1: 1:12:37

Go ahead. I was going to say one thing, and I know some of you who have a different political orientation, especially those pro-government. I know some of you are agitated. I'm not going to use the P word, but it rhymes with this. Some of y are agitated I'm not going to use the P word, but you know it rhymes with this but some of y'all are that and I mean that's okay.

Speaker 1: 1:12:58

This podcast is not a safe space. It's different points of views. I have some leftists, I have some right, I have some in the center, I have some Christians, some Muslims, whatever. This is not a safe space and I don't want this to be a safe space. So you're offended. If you want to tune out, that's fine. If you somehow survive this, if you hate this audio onslaught, I praise you for being brave, at least, even though you're agitated. So that's what I'm going to say.

Speaker 1: 1:13:26

But it's true, we need to. We need to form a community, we need to help one another. We got to restore the culture of people. Ultimately, that that will transcend. We got to start with ourselves. You know Trump and Kamala is not going to help you. Okay, I don't care where you lean politically. Some might do some good things. Some might do some bad things, depending on what you believe in. But at the end of the day it has to start with us and form a community and ideally start locally, then branch out nationally and then we could go branch out internationally. Okay, but freedom comes responsibility. There's a problem this society is we want all the freedom and no responsibility. Doesn't work that way, just doesn't work that way yeah, the responsive.

Speaker 2: 1:14:15

I like to equate responsibility and rights as the two sides of the same coin. You, if you don't take back your responsibility, you will lose your rights. You won't be able to uh, enforce it. I mean, like there was a lady, I think she's in texas and she just got elected to congress and she was one of those women who had a you know, uh, you know a hairstylist uh place and uh, it was shut down for COVID and they wouldn't let her open it up again. And her you know the different hairdressers that work at the different stations they said we're not going to be able to pay our mortgage, we're not going to be able to feed our children if we don't get back to work. We're not getting any wages. Don't get back to work, what? We're not getting any wages. And uh, so she ended up opening up and the judge said that that was a selfish act and and uh, put her in jail and eventually, I guess abbott said that she shouldn't be in jail. But then they were fining her like 500500, I think, a day or something for opening her deal. Well, now she's elected to I don't know if it's state Congress or what, but she won the election in Texas and that's great.

Speaker 2: 1:15:42

But people you saw it in a few places, but most of the places where people were losing their business and their life savings and their and I mean the suicides uh I have, uh you know, one son who was monitoring the number of suicides. The government had guards. They didn't announce this but I know it because of the people I know behind the scenes guards watching bridges in Oregon because there were so many people jumping off and then they were keeping it a secret. How many people were jumping off during COVID. I know people who committed suicide because it isn't natural for us to have nothing to do, no responsibility, no job or anything. Unless you have nothing to do, no responsibility, no job or anything, it will drive you crazy. And so that responsibility, taking back that responsibility, sometimes it's a little difficult, but no pain, no gain. You have to do some heavy lifting.

Speaker 2: 1:16:46

To think community at the same time is absolutely essential to that, because sometimes you can't lift it up by yourself. You can't do it by yourself, you have to do it with others. I always tell people that seeking the kingdom of God and his righteousness, which the gospel tells us to do, is about taking back that responsibility on an individual basis. It's an individual quest alone, but we have to learn to do it together, because it's just built into the nature of things and if we don't do it together we won't become strong as a community. If we're not strong as a community, somebody will come in and shut down your business.

Speaker 2: 1:17:37

We had a lot of businesses in here they tried to shut down in this county and we didn't have to take out guns or anything like that. I know one instance where somebody was trying to shut down the only pharmacy in the county. We only have one in the whole county. I mean, this is thousands of square miles and they wanted to shut down because they didn't think there was social distancing enough, and so they sent somebody down from the capital or someplace and they were called down by somebody local. I think it was somebody down from the capital or someplace and they were called down by somebody local. I think it was somebody in a real estate office and my son got wind of it and he just went over to the office and started knocking on the door. They locked the doors and they hid in the back room because they didn't want to talk to him. And everybody opened up and nobody got shut down. They threatened him a lot. In this community people would show up a little bit more than you would, a lot more than you would see in the bigger towns and when I say community, I'm talking countywide, and my son has seen this across, especially on Eastern Oregon side, the least populated side is that people are coming and showing up for each other. They're starting to learn that that's what we need to do, but we're so far from what a free society requires that we really don't know how to do it yet.

Speaker 2: 1:19:11

And one of the things that you know the story of Egypt. We did a whole study on Egypt. It's all available at PreparingU. You can look up. You know it's got a recording on every chapter and we explained what Moses was really doing. They were in a system where 20% of their labor belonged to the government. That's what the bondage of Egypt was. And we were told never to go back to the bondage of Egypt, where 20% of your labor belongs to the government. That's what the bondage of Egypt I mean. It says that right there, one-fifth of your labor belonged to the Pharaoh, which represents the whole government, and we were never to return it. And when Moses took them out of that, he created a system of free will offerings. It says right there in Leviticus all your offerings had to be free will and the people who administered those offerings were this group he called out to be the Levites, and you only gave to them according to their service. They didn't do any service. You didn't give to them. It was a free government. That's what he was establishing. We have a lot of misconceptions. People think they were stoning people and putting people to death. We showed that's not what the Word said. That's not what they mean. But anyway, our study on Exodus Moses is coming to. Uh, I just expanded some of our pages.

Speaker 2: 1:20:33

Who was moses in real life? Some people don't even think he existed. He's very I I have statues of him. I can show you what he looked like, but you have to. Probably his name wasn't moses. They just called him moses and they say that right in the bible. That's not his name. So what was his name? Well, you have to read the article to find out.

Speaker 2: 1:20:53

But anyway, he he when he said let my people go, he was the rightful pharaoh. He could take those people out. But he went and asked the guy who was sitting in the position of pharaoh, who wasn't the rightful Pharaoh. We explain that to give permission. And you kind of wonder. Wait a minute. God hardens the heart of the Pharaoh so that they couldn't. He wouldn't let the people go. They took away their benefits. They weren't going to get any more straw, which is actually a metaphor for benefits.

Speaker 2: 1:21:30

If you remember, the social welfare was taken care of through the temple. That's why there were granaries at the temple. If the floods didn't come and the people were going to starve, they had the grains stored up to feed the people. That's what they did in Sumer with the turtle dove. Goddess of Sumer, that was the goddess of welfare. But the question is are you filling and providing that welfare through charity? Are you providing it through force? If you're providing it through force, you will degenerate the people. You will break down the bonds of society. So the pharaoh's heart was hardened and they had to take care of one another, still pay their tally of bricks, and that was creating the bonds in the network. So when the day came that they had to leave, they were ready for freedom.

Speaker 2: 1:22:27

A lot of Americans aren't ready for freedom. So this is why we tell people to join the network. People say, well, if you build it, they will come. I tell you, if you build it, you'll be there already. The network is people learning to trust one another. Well, you don't have to trust one another, you have to learn how to do that. And everybody who comes won't be trustworthy. A lot of them are foolish virgins and, like I said I started telling that story the foolish virgins. They didn't invest in one another. The door was shut and locked and they couldn't come in.

Speaker 2: 1:23:19

So this is why I say that there's hard times coming in america. It's very clear. Anybody watches the six o'clock news should be able to figure it out. I mean you, your trillions of dollars of debt. Countries all over the world are about ready to completely dump the dollar. Even Putin came out and said I don't want to, but you're making me do it. I want to keep using the dollar, but you're making me dump it and get with these other people. I don't trust them as much as I trust America.

Speaker 1: 1:23:49

Yeah, you're first, I think. I think what was the Economic Alliance BRICS?

Speaker 2: 1:23:54

Oh yeah, that's one of them, but BRICS isn't the only one, no right, the petrol dollar with the Saudis, that's another one Right, there's several others, and even those that are getting together and doing this, they will probably divide off too.

Speaker 2: 1:24:09

It's kind of like OPEC. Opec was going to control the price of oil and they were all cheating on one another. And I'm not against, you know, like right now you know Iran is causing all kinds of trouble. It's the Iranians, if you actually I know Iranians. I mean there's some bad Iranians out there, but there's some Iranians that are really good people and they make good Americans and they ought to come here, but the leadership isn't what it ought to be. Well, in America, the leadership hasn't been what it ought to be either. So I don't want to group people into you know, iranians or Jews or Russians or whatever. You got to deal with everybody on an individual basis. That's why I mean you can join the network if you live in Russia. You probably can't in China because of the censorship in China, but we cover China, unless you went underground, but that's kind of snitchy.

Speaker 2: 1:25:12

Yeah, there's an underground church in China and a lot of them have survived because they're doing kind of what we're already doing. The underground church in China knew that it had to network and that's how they survived. But the whole world is going to go through turmoil. There's just no two ways about it, because there's a lot of people controlling. You know, you got names like BlackRock and all these different institutions that own each other and all this kind of stuff. They could collapse the economy by themselves. But the fact is is that there's a lot of predators out there. You just have to come together and early Americans they were all starving. Pilgrims were starving, people in Jamestown were starving every year and then they finally realized they stopped this socialism thing Because they all started out as socialists.

Speaker 2: 1:26:07

You know common storehouse From each according to their ability, to each according to their need Gun work If you produce it, you have total control over it. But if you don't share it, you won't have a community. But learning to share I know a lot of people that are very sharing. They'll give you the shirt off their back. Well, they do that too much. They'll freeze to death in the winter. They have to learn. You know. Even John the Baptist says if you have two coats and your neighbor has none, share, well, you have to be organized in that, because there's a lot of guys that will come by and they'll say, oh, we're poor, we don't't have any money, and they may have more money than you and you don't know, because they're just there claiming to be. You know, they're the foolish virgins. They didn't come together so we get to know who you are when things are good. And so this is that we don't know how to be a community, a real community with our own communion. We don't know who we can trust and who we can't trust. And this is what Christ and John the Baptist before him were trying to teach the people how to do. And John the Baptist didn't just do it in Judea, he had done it in Parthia before he came there. And we have to learn that too. And so that's why we have the website preparingyoucom. You can go there. There's network links, people can go and sign up. It doesn't cost you any money, it's just an email group. But then, once you're on an email group in your geographical area, oregon, wherever you're at then you can get to meet other people and then you can form congregations and then they can become congregations of record. But everything is about empowering you to make choices for you, you to make choices for you. But if you only make choices for your benefit, you're not going to ever form a community. Eventually, you have to make some choices for the benefit of others. That's how you create those bonds.

Speaker 2: 1:28:25

There's an old story about you know where they needed to weave a rope to moor a ship that could be sucked into a whirlpool, and they wove it out of the hair of virgins. And of course this is all symbolic. It's an old Norse folktale. But it's actually what they're talking about. They use that word virgins and fornicators. Fornicators were people. Paul tells us this fornicators were people who were engaged in covetous practices and he said covetousness is idolatry. So if you're going to men who exercise authority to get benefits at your neighbor's expense through those men who exercise authority, that is idolatry. Everybody thinks idolatry is that we've set up some sort of statue and bow down to it, and we talked about it before as the golden calf. That was a central bank. They just put it all in a statue so that you could make sure nobody was robbing the bank. But if they needed extra funds in Athens and a lot of other places that had these golden statues. They actually sawed off chunks of the statue to make coins to fund the defense of the city. That's what a central bank was. Well, there ain't nothing left.

Speaker 2: 1:29:59

In Fort Knox you made your golden calf way back in 1916 and 1920 and 1930. They've already taken all the gold and silver out of your pockets. And even now they repealed HJR 192 that took gold. That was the that made people have to give in their gold. Us citizens had to give in their gold. I particularly say you can only do this for US citizens, and this was back in the 30s. Well, they've repealed. They shared 192 with public law 95-147. You'll write this down, but anyway, we cover it on the website.

Speaker 2: 1:30:43

But if you own gold and silver now and you've got it in your home or in your fire safe or whatever, you only got legal title to it and you probably don't know the definition of whatever. You only got legal title to it and you probably don't know the definition of legal title. You got legal title to your house. You don't know that. They can take it away from you. You got legal title to your labor. They can take it away from you. You're back in the bondage of Egypt. You got the number to prove it. I'm not telling people to get out of the system. I'm telling you seek the alternative. That's what they had to do in Egypt. That's what they had to do when they went back to these similar systems with Solomon and others, because it weakens the people. You want to be rain sheep, you want to be used to not being fenced in and still sticking together, and then you may need a couple of good shepherds, but a good shepherd is not a good shepherd.

Speaker 1: 1:31:37

Yeah, now you said a lot, I think this is good.

Speaker 2: 1:31:41

I heard you say something, but I didn't catch it.

Speaker 1: 1:31:43

No, no no, I'm just saying this is a good time to cut. You said a lot. I think this is more than enough that the people bargain for. Especially those who hate the message are pro-government, pro-socialists. You already agitated them. Oh well, you can't please everybody.

Speaker 2: 1:31:57

I'm all for voluntary socialism. I just don't want to give the power to anybody to force the contributions of me or my neighbor. Right, right. Jesus said if you take a bite out of one another, he says, he warns us not to take a bite out of one another lest ye be devoured. Well, that's the trillions of dollars in debt. Peter says covetous practices will make you merchandise. Human resources is another way to translate that. Where you have to work and they don't have to pay you, they can take away 20%, 30%, 40%, 50%, they can take it all away. It still makes you work Because you belong to them, and you got a number to prove it.

Speaker 2: 1:32:48

Now I don't want to be pessimistic about it. The solution is what am I actually saying? We said take back your responsibility. What is your responsibility? What is the definition of religion? We'll leave it at this.

Speaker 2: 1:33:02

I don't even have any idea what the time is, but the definition of religion 200 years ago, when they made the Constitution, was the pious performance of your duty to God and your fellow man. So you have a duty to your fellow man. If he falls into a pit, if he is starving, if a hurricane comes and washes his house away, you have a duty to go and help him. What's your duty to God? To love your neighbor as yourself.

Speaker 2: 1:33:33

Moses said it, abraham said it, jesus said it. You know, if all the Muslims were doing what Abraham was doing and all the Jews were doing what Moses was doing originally and all the Christians were doing what Jesus Christ said to do, we wouldn't need Trump, we wouldn't have all these problems. But unfortunately we're not. We're doing what some person who is a blind guy told you. My eyes are open. So anyway that well, we like I say people can join us on X, our afternoon program on saturday, uh, people can call in, uh, and then we have a program on morning, but it's all at preparing youcom or his holy churchorg and uh, join the network well, I'm gonna put all that in the description his website and prepare you dot.

Speaker 1: 1:34:34

You know, prayercom, the social media, is all that. No, this is very valuable stuff. Look, if you're lost in life, look, maybe this is the direction that you needed. You know that? That's all I'm gonna say. I hope you take what he's saying to heart, because I think this is the way to heal the massive, the true epidemic of America the scattering of the flock. That's the real epidemic, not this little virus. Yeah, it's an epidemic, but the real epidemic is scattered flock. We don't trust each other. We are perfect savages. That's the real epidemic. Let's spin that, okay. Okay, we gotta restore that. God is the way.

Speaker 1: 1:35:17

Okay, now I'm just gonna say that it's coming for someone who pretended to be atheist because I was mad at god because I don't understand. Okay, so just do that. Check out his website, social medias, and he's smart guy. He's not just speaking gobbledygook, he's definitely not. It can be easily backed up through documents. You want proof, right? You want evidence? Well, he'll give you plenty of that. All right, and trust me, he could talk for another 20 hours, but I'm gonna stop him and myself there. I'm pretty sure I don't have that endurance. My max is three on the good day. So just take his word to heart. And for those of you who are agitated, well, go to therapy, pray to God, meditate or something. That's all I can say, because this is not a safe zone and I don't want it to be a safe zone. So, from wherever you start listening to this podcast, you have a blessed day, afternoon or night you.