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Politically High-Tech
274- Revolution From Within with Beth Green
Beth Green shares her lifelong journey as a spiritual activist fighting for social justice since childhood and how she believes in an "inner revolution" to transform society. Her vision centers on creating a world based on cooperation rather than competition, with an economic system designed to meet human needs rather than maximize profits.
• Started giving lectures about racism at age five and became a socialist at nine years old
• Defines herself as a "spiritual activist" guided by higher consciousness
• Argues capitalism has failed its purpose of meeting human needs and caring for the earth
• Believes competition has been destructively embedded in our culture from childhood
• Created a "New Declaration of Independence" offering an alternative vision for society
• Works as an intuitively guided counselor helping people understand their deeper motivations
• Has lived with chronic illness since age 15 but continues her work despite physical limitations
• Returned to playing piano at age 73 after a 58-year hiatus and creates healing music
• Offers free resources including books, music and guidance through her organizations
• Advocates for "oneness, accountability and mutual support" as foundational principles
Check out Beth's free resources at thestreaminfo.org, healingartsnetwork.org, and bethgreen.org where you can access her books, music, and sign her petition for a New Declaration of Independence.
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welcome everyone to politically high tech with your host, elias. I have a guest here. You want new ideas. You want something that's more left-leaning, being progressive I mean, some of the haters might call even radical. Look, this is not an echo chamber. I am anti echo chamber, as this is why I'm proud independent moderate, because I hear both sides and I could come on my own opinions. They're just saying forget the democrats, forget the republicans. The republicans are too cool. I think democrats are too cool. No, no, no, no. That's not how I operate as an independent. And if you hack my voting records, I'm as purple as it comes. Certain electors are voting Republicans, certain electors are voting Democrats.
Speaker 1:I'm a swing voter, but sadly, a state like New York it don't matter as much, it's very blue, it's blue Independence outnumber Republicans. That's how neutered they are in New York. It's a true statistic by 10,000. That's you know. I'm just giving you how New York, how partisan New York is, you know it's not like what's the state that's been swinging a lot? Ohio, ohio that's been Trumpified. It's officially like red, it's like solid red at this point. It used to be flipped. It used to be flipped Ohio, I mean mean even florida too. That's very, that's bad. Those are mega states, all right, maybe until changes happen, then they could flip. But um, let's say a swing. Oh nevada, recently, that used to be democrat the last time I checked statistics, but they've been coming more purple. That's a swing. Oh, wisconsin, that's a good one. That one to them. Or the republicans win by razor thin margins. That's a swing, you see. So if I was a swing voter, I would matter a whole lot more. New York is, uh, just got to get the Democrats together. Then there you go, they most likely win.
Speaker 1:I don't think I don't like this thing when it's too blue or too red, because it just shuts the other side up. I just think the best idea is just compete with each other and see which one comes out on top, or maybe it could be a mix of the two. That's just me. I'm a little bit idealist at times, even though I'm mostly pragmatic. But I'm sure you didn't come to hear about me.
Speaker 1:I always bring different people here to liven things up, and I want to introduce this lovely lady here. Her name, the one I was referring to, you know for the haters. You can call her radical crazy. I'm not going to go further than that because I'm not trying to create an argument here. And if, for the people who think she's great, ahead of her times, revolutionary, innovative, there she is, beth Green, for a certain political orientation, you're going to be uncomfortable, but I want you to be uncomfortable because this is not a necrochamber. I invite different ideas. It's too blue or too red. I think that's silly and that creates problems in the long run. So let me shut up, quite frankly, because I'm going to go on for a while. And so, beth Green, what do you want the listeners and the viewers to know about you? Just to get this conversation officially started.
Speaker 2:That's a great question. Well, I want you to know that.
Speaker 2:I'm 80 years old and that these wrinkles, I earned them, and I have had a very tumultuous life, but there is one thing that I can say about my entire life is that I've always been committed to the common good and I've always been committed to helping our planet to the best of my ability, knowing how small and powerless I really am. And I work. I am an intuitively guided counselor. That's what I do for a living. I'm still working and I probably will until I drop dead, because I did not become rich by standing up for the good, and so that's what I do. By the way, that's my dog making noise. Charlie, would you behave please? I guess he's not.
Speaker 1:Hello, our second guest the dog, the dog, it's the dog.
Speaker 2:It's the dog. So yeah, so I'm an intuitively guided counselor. I've been a spiritual teacher since 1980. I'm very guided. So I'm being guided, I think, by what I call higher consciousness, and so I don't agree with the polarization right, left, blue, red I'm not purple, I'm definitely not purple. But what I'm really looking at is we doing what we're supposed to be doing on this earth? What are we here for? And then I asked the question what is the society here for? Because I just talked a little bit about my work and my counseling, but I was a social activist from a very young age.
Speaker 2:I mean, I actually started at five, just automatically. I started giving people lectures about racism actually, and discrimination, and then, when I was nine years old, I became a socialist. So socialists are, but I mean not a Soviet communist, maoist, you know, I mean somebody who, you know, the definition of communism from Marx is from each according to his ability and to each according to his need. Now, doesn't that make you cry? I call it the potluck revolution. You know, you go to a potluck, you bring what you can and you take what you need.
Speaker 2:That is what I believe in. That's the kind of society that I want to live in, and so I've been fighting for an economic and social system that cares for the needs of people and the earth since I was a child and literally they tried to expel me from elementary school in 1954 when I was nine years old and McCarthy very right-wing, trying to shut up everybody. So I have a lot of background, both as a spiritual teacher and I work with people so I understand people's psychology, but also as somebody fighting for the good. And finally I am a musician and I'm an intuitively guided musician and I've been chronically ill since I'm almost done with my introduction.
Speaker 2:I've been chronically ill probably since I was born. I was born with a hereditary condition and then, when I was 15, I became severely ill and have been pretty much disabled ever since, housebound since 1983. And I did all of this stuff anyway, feeling like shit. But I'm driven by something that says you can't give up. You have to try to help the best that you can. And that's what I'm still trying to do and I'm extremely upset with the direction that our nation has taken, and I think all good people should be upset, because there's too much cruelty in our world. And I went back to the piano after 15. I had to stop playing the piano when I was 15. And when I was 73, I went back to playing the piano and I became a professional, even though I could barely move my hand. So I have grit, I have determination, I care and sometimes I wonder if.
Speaker 1:I've done any good at all.
Speaker 2:So there's my introduction.
Speaker 1:Oh no, feel free to elongate. You know I'm an authoritarian, I'm not going to be like, oh, shut up. Enough introduction. No, no, no, no. I think that's a very good introduction. I mean, you can even add more if you want. I'll leave that up to you. What I hear intuitive guided and resilience those are two main things.
Speaker 2:I think Beautiful, well said Because.
Speaker 1:Yes, oh, yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Bonus points.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm from New York too. Yeah points, I'm from New York too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there you go. East Coast Flex Brack. I don't care, feel bad. Westerners, southerners.
Speaker 2:I live in Oregon because I love trees.
Speaker 1:Oh well, yeah, they give a. Let's say New York got trees too Upstate, not the city, of course, it's too much crazy buildings, it's a concrete jungle. Enough of my bragging of New York. You didn't come for bragging of New York.
Speaker 2:I could do that for hours.
Speaker 1:I do my separate podcast. Maybe a second podcast I'll talk about why New York is great and all the other things are bleh. No, I'm kidding.
Speaker 2:We all get in to make.
Speaker 1:America great.
Speaker 2:And I don't want to see people kneel right after that because it sounds like a great president.
Speaker 2:I felt sorry for anybody who didn't live in New York. Now I feel sorry for anybody who does so. It just goes to show you how your perspective can change. I'll take a tree, a river, a stream any day, over a building Tenement, and I have been extremely poor because most people who are really trying to do good, you know, I wasn't looking to make money, I didn't make money and I was extremely poor and I know what it's like to live in the slums of New York and I also know how nice it is and I appreciate living in a nice home in Oregon with a tree.
Speaker 1:Anyway, I'll graciously take that slight at New York. You know, there's benefits to living out in nature. I mean, I was in Georgia. I think Georgia slowly changed my perspective. Even though that's kind of a right, that's a right-leaning state, even though Democrats have made some progress, obviously it's not enough to sustain it because the Republicans just bop that progress right out of Georgia. That's a georgia case. But um, you see, this is how much I get into politics. Even different states, utah, super red. Only salt lake city is probably like the only blue region there. That's it.
Speaker 2:Everything else is solid, dark red like you know, you have to look beyond all that. You have to look into the hearts of people. You know, if I'm in a car, well, I didn't learn how to drive until I was 29. And I've barely driven since then because of my illness. So that's like driving is a scary thing for me. I grew up in New York. Who could afford a car, much less a parking space, right, but what I found if, if you had a flat tire, the person who stops to help you might be a Republican, an independent Democrat? You really don't know.
Speaker 2:And what is so horrifying to me is that when people get into political things and is really the more important question is why has politics and I have to say especially the Republican Party how come these people have become so cruel? And what is that? You know, people have the capacity for great generosity of heart and people have a capacity for meanness, and so I'm interested in that. And why are people so mean and what's the basis for that? And how are we going to go and appeal to people to care about one another? See, I believe what I think is really important is consciousness. How conscious are we? Are we aware of ourselves and our motivations? Very few people have a clue as to why they're doing things, and that makes them easily led and easily misled, because they're really being motivated by something internal and they don't think it.
Speaker 2:They don't think so. They think they're being led by some argument, but it isn't true. For instance, I felt that there was a lot of misogyny, you know, hatred of women and racism in the last election, and that is you. Just you cannot convince me otherwise. You can't tell me that they voted on the economy. I think they saw a Black woman and they've been made to fear Black people and I don't like that. You know. I know that that's wrong and I know where that comes from, but I also understand the fear that's behind it. So what we need to do is try to understand one another, where we're coming from on a deeper subconscious level and then, when we understand that, we can try to speak to what is truly motivating people and try to bring people back to their other side.
Speaker 2:There's also a logical issue to me, which is if you are sitting next to, if your child is in school and there is a child of an undocumented worker sitting next to that child and they have a communicable disease, your child is going to get it. It's stupid stupid to deprive people who are living in your community of health care, because it's the same thing around the world. You know people around the world get an illness. It's going to come to your door. So there's one thing is goodness and caring, which I really believe in and hope that is intrinsic to people. But there's also common sense. You know what are you going to do? It's like God said to me once and when I say God I don't mean you know anything out of religion. Believe me, my view of God is completely different from anybody else's pretty much.
Speaker 2:But I do get this inner voice which I got back in 1980. And it said to me you cannot clean the air over one house in Los Angeles. You have to clean everybody's air. We have to have a clean environment for everybody. We have to have health for everybody. Everybody needs to have enough money so they can buy the goods and services we're producing. So this is not about being left or right. This is about common sense. The purpose of the economy is to take care of the needs of people and the earth. There is no other reason for an economy. There's no other reason for a society. We're not doing that and I don't care if you're a Democrat or Republican. There's Democrats who haven't done it, there's Republicans who haven't done it. Our whole vision of why we're on the earth has been skewed towards making money rather than to taking care of needs.
Speaker 1:People in the comment section. Do you agree? Disagree? But you know, use the comment section for that. If you just want to be angry, do that as well. You're just going to be ignored. The guest is not going to pay attention to it, that I can guarantee. I will pay attention to it just to read it, and then I'm moving on. So, okay, guarantee I will pay attention to it just to read it, and then I'm moving on. So, okay, hateful, stupid, low iq. This person, this commenter, does not know what he or she's talking about. Next, okay, this one's constructive I pay attention to constructive comments saying I would like that to elaborate on what she means about higher consciousness. Well, it's her definition of god. That would be a better. You know, I'll pay attention to that, I'll put a heart on it and say, oh good, that's a reason to bring it back. But if you put that oh, elias is stupid, beth is stupid, you're going to be scared. Go ahead, go ahead. I believe your free speech, but I have my right not to respond either, right on.
Speaker 2:I get some hate mail on on social media too. And you know, I think, boy, what happened to these people that they're so twisted and hateful. I feel sorry for you. You know, remember, elias, I'm a counselor. I have had people of all kinds come to me over these since I started in 1980, and this is 2025, that's a lot of years of delving into people's souls and I have never met a person yet who is not suffering and who hasn't been damaged, who isn't hurt, who isn't hurting and who isn't reacting out of their social conditioning and out of their pain. And I mean that sincerely. And I'm of a Jewish background. And I have said and I know it's true, that if Adolf Hitler came into my consulting room, I would feel compassion for him because there's some reason that he's like that All right, Absolutely.
Speaker 1:He wasn't just born as a hater of humanity. He's not just a Jew hater. Remember people he has murdered gays and blacks.
Speaker 2:Oh, exactly.
Speaker 1:Communists gypsies. Yep, all disabled too, because they were just useless to them. That's right, you know. You all talk about phew. Forget ethnocleansing, just human cleansing in his sick view about the pure white race, the Aryan race.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you mean like the. Afrikaners that Trump is bringing into the country from South Africa because the poor whites have been so suppressed. They still own most of the land. It's a tiny percentage is white and they own most of the land. But you know they're really suppressed. But anyway, we can, we can skip over that topic.
Speaker 1:No, but I understand how people feel.
Speaker 2:because everybody's afraid of losing something. Oh, we're so afraid we're going to lose because we have the wrong values. You know we have the wrong values. Instead of saying, oh, I am gaining love, I am gaining feelings of connection, you say, oh, I'm losing some privilege. Yeah, like men. Okay, so you're not allowed to beat your wife anymore, you're not allowed to rape your wife anymore. God, that is some loss. You know what I mean. But what you gain is possibly a good relationship with a woman, right, but see, people are too scared. They're too scared to let go of any kind of power. We're so afraid of each other. We think we need power so that we can oppress them before they oppress us at the south, even in the south african president had his two senses waited.
Speaker 1:He just called them cowards. Simple as that. Cowards, that's what he said, I'm not making this up. Cyril Ramaphosa Yep, that's the South African president, and you already know his views on Palestine. He's more sympathetic towards Palestine because he sees Israel as an apartheid oppressor. They delivered apartheid to them.
Speaker 2:And I can understand those feelings and I also, you know, my family was in the Holocaust and I mean I don't have much family and I understand all the sides, but what has happened to the Jewish people in Israel is like they've lost their moral compass.
Speaker 1:Not all.
Speaker 1:Some are amazing, but it's like we can't lose our moral compass and think we are surviving, because we do not survive when that happens to us Not inside, and think we are surviving because we do not survive when that happens to us, not inside, right, I think it's just the crazy Zionists and the government that I criticize of Israel, and I think it's because there's a lot of protests. They don't like their government, they need to stop the brutality. There's a lot of Israelites that I could give them that credit, definitely, because they know it's just overly brutal, it's unnecessary. You, you know, and I have access questions to one of them, and I had some jewish guests come and say why can they implement a more precise strain? Like us, they wouldn't get?
Speaker 1:When they caught osama bin laden, just went to where he's at. Did the raid just kill those terrorists like that? So why can't you implement that instead of just doing almost indiscriminate bombing of Gaza, right, and killing a lot of people in the process? I mean, get me wrong, I get defend. You're not saying, oh, you're just evil for just killing one of them, you're evil just for defending. No, it's just how you carry out this war. You're not supposed to be terrorists. But the Zionists, in my opinion, are no better than Hamas. Hardly, hardly.
Speaker 2:You're no better. It, in my opinion, are no better than Hamas Hardly, hardly. You're no better. It's tragic, and I understand the psyche of these people, their defensiveness. They feel surrounded, but when you start getting into a racist view you create the problems that you become afraid of.
Speaker 1:Not yet, and you know it was a.
Speaker 2:European problem that got stuff stuck on the Palestinians Not yet. Well, you're getting an idea where her views are at, and this is why we're talking about it, at least briefly.
Speaker 1:We could go a little off the brand. This is the style of the pie. We go a little bit off, just get a little. You know we test the waters, sort of speak. You know, I'm not an authoritarian conversation. We got to talk about this. You got 20 seconds to respond to a super complicated, open-ended question. That's unrealistic. That's mainstream media. You watch that garbage if you want to do that, which they end up. Part of the problem as well, because they divide people with their fear among great. You know, left, left wing flavor, right wing flavor. They still divisive at the end of the day. So now let's get to the more interesting stuff. Okay, you know you're ready. I think you already touched on why we will need more of a revolution. So far, you talk about more like a human revolution let's expand that to.
Speaker 2:I call it the inner revolution.
Speaker 1:Right an inner revolution. I mean it encompasses everything, human political systems economic systems yes. No, you're right. You're right. I like that framing. This is an inner conscience revolution. I mean, I had a guest not that long ago that talked about this Consciousness is everything. So there you go. The theme continues Consciousness, consciousness, consciousness.
Speaker 2:That's great.
Speaker 1:I love how some things just fall together nicely. I don't have to force it or manipulate it. It's so beautiful. But I mean besides why we needed a human level.
Speaker 2:I mean you already talked about the vision.
Speaker 1:Anything else you want to add. Why we need like an economic revolution? Because I know that the rich are just keep extracting from the poor and, of course, the economic wealth gap just continues to get wider, wider, wider, wider. It hasn't stopped.
Speaker 2:It's ridiculous and it's not going to. It's even they're trying to do even more. Now they're taking, they're trying to cut Medicaid and Medicare and Social Security so that the president can have more power, more money, his friends by elections. I mean, it's kind of sickening. But I would like to talk about some of the foundational things around this because I totally agree with what you're saying. You know, when I was a child, I started to listen to different ideas about society and, as I said, I became a quote. I started to identify as a socialist when I was nine, and I'll tell you why. And then I want to get into the economics of it, but if you don't mind me giving people a little bit of background.
Speaker 2:So Senator Joseph McCarthy was trying to do what the Republicans are doing now going in there and getting rid of everybody who had a somewhat progressive or leftist idea. He was claiming there were all these communists in the army and he had blacklisted everybody from Hollywood. And you know it was very similar and I saw him on television. We had just gotten TV right. This is back 1954. Remember, I was born in 1945. And I looked at this guy and I said, whatever he is against, I am for, because you could just feel intuitively that this was a very sick man. And we also had the House Un-American Activities Committee and it was terrible. What they were trying to do was getting all the communists out of the labor movement, because the communists and the socialists were very pro labor and were trying to help ordinary people have a decent life, having an eight-hour day. You know we had a fight for the eight-hour day. You know, getting paid a decent salary I'm going to get into this in a minute because this is so crucial for our whole society, but anyway.
Speaker 2:So they wanted to get rid of people who might overturn the system. And this, of course, started back in the Depression, because there were a lot of Americans in those days who were leftists, and Americans don't know that Most Americans think that we're all, like you know, 1950s Republicans or something. It's not true. If you look at the history it's very, very different, because people were very oppressed and you had the same kind of obscene, except it's much worse now. I agree with you, elias, it's such obscene, except it's much worse now, I agree with you, elias, it's such obscene income inequality. And so the Depression comes along and Franklin Roosevelt and his pals they were afraid that there was going to be a revolution in the country, and so they tried to figure out what they were going to do to stop it. But it wasn't a bad thing. What they tried to do is to create social programs and social networks to help people. So I understand that I mean, maybe we should have had that revolution, but we didn't, and they tried to bring in these new kinds of policies with more social welfare, kind of more like the Europeans, the Scandinavian people, what they call democratic socialism and so on.
Speaker 2:And there are some people who were never satisfied with that. I actually met a man. I went to a fancy girls school in college. I was 16 years old. I was also expelled from that school for being in the anti-nuclear proliferation movement. That's another story of being expelled. But what was happening was that there was this rebellion against the status quo and so they tried to suppress it.
Speaker 2:And I happened to meet a girl at this school. It was an Ivy League girls' school. I was a scholarship student, you know, a poor Jew from Brooklyn, queens, you know and this girl took me to her parents' house and her father was talking about how bad Social Security was. And I'm telling you this story because it's like it was real and it was happening back then. It was happening back then, but you didn't it to share the world. This guy drove a Bentley, I kid you not, and when I went in I didn't have much friends at school in fact any until the very end, because I was different and I was a socialist and I scared everybody. And the other girls were all from the upper class and they had traveled around the world with their parents and they threw their cashmere sweaters on the floor and you know what I mean. It was like what you know. I didn't know anything about a life like that. I found out there really was a ruling class, a higher, you know, and that they had coming out parties and all that. Well, of course, I didn't fit in. This was what I saw.
Speaker 2:She brought me to that home and I began to realize that all and all these years there has been a movement against the social welfare programs that came out of the Depression and that they were trying to get back the power, that the upper classes are trying to go back to the days where workers, working class people of all kinds had no power, had nothing to say. So it's shocking, but it isn't. And, by the way, in 1954, they added the words under God to the Pledge of Allegiance. We didn't have the words under God. I believed in the separation of church and state. So they added the words under God to the Pledge the separation of church and state. So they added the words under God to the Pledge of Allegiance. So I refused to salute the flag. Now I'm nine years old, remember? I'm in the fourth grade.
Speaker 2:I'm watching the Armin McCarthy hearings and at the same time I read a book about the Spanish Civil War, which was the fascists against the socialists, and you can tell, you can imagine which side I was on. I was definitely not on the fascist side. So all of that it sort of came together in me and I thought there's something wrong with the world. There is something wrong with the world that allows these things to happen. That's when it happened, when I made that shift. But I'm not a doctrinaire in the way people think they have an idea.
Speaker 2:A socialist is like what I said and I read Marx and I'm going to tell you about Marx in a minute, because it sounds like you already know intuitively, if you haven't read Marx, what he explained is back in the middle of the 19th century. He was watching the whole thing, middle of the 19th century. He was watching the whole thing and he said that what the capitalists do is they will pay you the least amount to keep you alive so you can come back and work the next day, and that's it, and that is the value of your labor. But what you produce can be twice as valuable, a hundred times as valuable. Now he actually predicted that with industrialization it was going to happen that one worker was going to be able to produce an enormous amount of product, but they were still being kept at whatever you need just to survive.
Speaker 2:And part of that system was women working for free in the home. See, you get two workers for the price of one, and the women were expected to take care of those men when they get home from work. Of course, women worked outside the home too. There were a lot of factory workers in the day, especially before the 50s, when the women would be shoved back into the home. But also women are there raising the next generation of workers, which is the children.
Speaker 2:So you pay this guy just enough to keep everybody alive, so that there's another set of workers to go in and work for your factories, for your offices and all of that stuff, and the rest goes to the owners, to the capitalists, to the shareholders. It's how capital came into existence. It's really the same thing to the capitalists, to the shareholders. It's how capital came into existence. It's really the same thing that you were saying using a specific language that was used around this. So now what has happened, as you well know, is that the value of what we're producing keeps going up and the amount that we're getting isn't going anywhere, and, in fact, the average worker is making less by real dollars now than they were, you know what, 40 years ago. And so what?
Speaker 2:is wrong with that? Well, what is wrong with that is everything is wrong with that. You know you're repressing people. You're oppressing people. You're keeping them like enslaved. People are working two jobs, people are working three jobs just to survive. Don't let people have any time to think, because if people had time to think, they might have time to rebel. Keep them busy, keep them divided by race, by ethnicity and all of that other nonsense, and they won't get together and say duh, look at this, we're getting screwed and the rich are getting richer. And it is true, the rich are getting richer, the poor are getting poorer. And that is capitalism. Now, do I think there are some good things in free enterprise and the market system? Yes, I do, but that isn't what we're living with today.
Speaker 2:We're not living in that free market. What we're living is monopolies and concentration of wealth and concentration of power, concentration of power in the hands of a few, and the rest of us are getting brainwashed. Every day. We're told that this is the best of all possible worlds, this is the best system, and if you question it, you're a commie. And if you're a commie then you're the enemy, which is really stupid because that is not the true nature of what I'm talking about. It's like taking care of the earth, and you know the way we treat people. That's the same way we're treating the earth Raping the earth every day to the point that it can't even support us anymore. Earth every day, to the point that it can't even support us anymore.
Speaker 2:So we're not giving people enough resources to regenerate, to be well. Clean air, clean water. You know, now they're taking away the regulations for clean air, clean water. What about the lead in the pipes? Isn't that a problem anymore? What about all those children whose brains are getting damaged by this pollution? You know, mostly children in poor areas. You know it. Just I can't help it. I look at this and I say are you blind? Are you really okay with this? Is this really okay?
Speaker 2:We have had immigrants in our nation for centuries doing the dirty work and then we say we don't like you anymore, we're going to throw you out, even though you are paying taxes and you're the ones who are taking care of our farms and you are the ones who are taking care of many of us, are taking care of our children. Well, you know, it's just so widespread, especially if you're on the West Coast, you really see it. And so, but hey, garbage, these people are garbage. We can do anything we want with them. I mean, all the racism in the world can't explain that to me. You know, it can't explain that to me. How do people live in South Africa under apartheid white people and not feel guilty every day, but it's not just here. If you look at, like the caste system in India and other third world nations, where you have a handful of people with all the wealth and the rest of people are treated like dirt, how can you walk out the house and see people begging in the street and not want to throw up? You know so there is that piece too. But just common sense. Who the hell is going to buy your car if they don't have enough money to buy it? So on every level on an ethical level, on a health level, on a destruction of the earth level, on an economic level we need revolution. We need to change the way that we distribute wealth. We need to change the way we run business.
Speaker 2:In Germany, you have to have like 50% of the people on the board of directors have to be workers. You're working in a factory. I've worked in factories. I've worked in offices. I wasn't always a counselor and I was really sick and I know what it's like. You know. I do know what it's like to live under those.
Speaker 2:I made a dollar nine an hour in the 70s in Cleveland Ohio you mentioned, because they were all immigrant women working there, and that's what they made, and I made that too and I saw the conditions. You know it's just inhumane. And so you take the weakest people in society and just treat them like shit and then tell the people who have a little bit more than oh, but you're privileged. You see, you're making $15 an hour. That's the way it was in those days. The steel workers made $15 an hour and I worked in a plastics factory for $1.09. But it didn't compare to what the CEOs were making or what the people who aren't even working are making. So you look at that and it just none of it makes sense and what it does is it destroys us morally, ethically, and we are so brainwashed that we think it's OK and it really is.
Speaker 1:Well, that was a great, great, I think one of the best monologues we have yet. But no, you speak a lot of truth, because it's just the poor is the poor? We're just squeezing them, squeezing them, and then, when we barely keep, oh, just a few drops, we squeeze gallons out of them. Squeeze the gallons out of them. Okay, just put a few drips. There you go. You take care of Shut up and put up, give you a minimum wage. That's the best it's ever going to get for you. Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 2:I do, but those black people are your enemy, or it's those immigrants who are your enemy, or it's the women, the opening women, who are your enemy? No, no, you see. Enemy, no, no. You see. Keep us divided, keep us killing each other. I was working in Cleveland and I was working with a group of independent truckers. They were having a strike in Akron, Ohio and across the country. It was during the gas thing and I was helping them, helping them try to get help and food stamps and everything during the strike and trying to support them. And one day we were very close. We were very close, we were working together and one day I went into a meeting and they said to me Beth, we have to ask you to leave. And I said why? They said it's not us. It's not us, but you're a socialist and we've gotten the word that we have to stop working with you. Honest to God, that's what happened. That is what happened.
Speaker 1:History repeats itself.
Speaker 2:in other words it does, it does.
Speaker 1:Go away, you dirty socialists.
Speaker 2:That's right and this is stupid, because if people really understood what socialism was, it's like when Bernie Sanders goes out and he talks about you know, health care and socialism. What's this like? When Bernie Sanders goes out and he talks about, you know, health care and he's talking about income inequality and minimum wage and all of that, people say yeah, yeah, yeah, well, bernie is a democratic socialist. You know what I mean. There's nothing wrong with that. It's just that we're that with the powers that be don't want you to be thinking in these ways. They want you to think that capitalism is gold and capitalism isn't gold and it really needs to be dramatically revised. And without the economic system changing, how is the power relationships going to change? How are we going to get back the power, not just in one election, but get back the power from these very wealthy people who are running everything and they're doing it behind the scenes.
Speaker 1:We don't even know what they're doing.
Speaker 2:I mean, what the hell was Trump doing in the Middle East, Getting jets and making secret deals for him and his family? You know it's just like, but we're brainwashed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean we're brainwashed because you already said we kept too busy. That's the biggest reason why. So have them work two jobs. Let's see if we can squeeze them work even three.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. And what about all the women who are still basically taking care of the house and the children and working one or two jobs at the same time for lower wages? You know, for four years I was the West Coast coordinator for the Wages for Housework campaign and we were talking about the value of housework and we can't survive with that housework. You know, that is the work of taking care of workers. And they're right. You know the people who are complaining. Well, we wish we were back in the home. Yeah, I understand why I would like to come home and have a hot meal made for me, you know. But I get that.
Speaker 2:But the problem is that without income, women have no power, so the men can dominate. I remember the day you couldn't get a divorce. Being beaten by your husband was legal in marriage. I mean to say. I lived through all of this. I lived through abortion being illegal. I lived through all of these times. And women have to fight for our rights. But to fight for women's rights is to fight for everybody's rights, because the men are stronger. When the women depend on the men, the men have more stress. They have to make more money. If the women are bringing in money and the men are bringing.
Speaker 2:We have the possibility of equality, but men are brainwashed into thinking they're supposed to be on top. We are brainwashed out of cooperation. We're taught to compete instead of cooperate. That is one of the major brainwashing, from the time you're a child and I don't care if you're a Republican or a Democrat that child goes to school and they're competing with other children. What is this nonsense? You know it's like you're taught from the beginning oh, our team versus your team. And have those kids go out there and get their heads blown off, playing football, getting concussions, and they say go kill, go kill. You know what I mean? What is wrong with us? Why can't we have games where people cooperate? You know why aren't we taught? Because that's C, the capitalist system requires us to compete. That's the whole thing, and so we are not taught to cooperate.
Speaker 2:So this is not about Democrats and Republicans. This goes so much deeper than that, and that's, of course, is about, ultimately, about ego. But that's another topic which we can get into if you want to. But that's, that's what we are. We're up that, competing with each other. I'm competing for a man, I'm competing for a job, I'm competing for airtime on the internet. I don't want to compete. I want a society of love and mutual support, and that's what we're fighting for oneness, accountability and mutual support.
Speaker 1:That's my organization, the stream we're going to get Oneness, accountability and mutual support. That's my organization, the Stream. We're going to get to that shameless plug-in, because there's a good amount of shameless plug-in we need to do I'm pro-shameless plug-in Good.
Speaker 1:Spread the word and all that, but before I do that, I just want to know what the heck is this new version of Declaration of Independence? Obviously, according to you, it needs to change. I'm not going to ask that kind of question what is it, how is it different and why the heck is it important? And I want you to rattle those who are traditionalists. Go right ahead.
Speaker 2:Okay, it's the new Declaration of Independence. See, it was really interesting because, as I told you, I have this inner voice that guides me, and that inner voice that guides me, and that inner voice that guides me says spirituality and politics they're one. It's all about caring about one another and building a better world for everyone, and so I don't believe in splitting those things up Now. So that inner voice said to me a couple of months ago, you need to write the new Declaration of Independence. And I said really.
Speaker 2:So I sat down and I actually started reading the Declaration of Independence. And it says that you know that we are endowed by our maker with life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, and if the government is depriving you of those things, you have a right to abolish it and replace it with something else. Holy schmigoli, people have got to read this. This is our own.
Speaker 1:Declaration of.
Speaker 2:Independence. And it says and I'm thinking, we need to abolish the government as it is, we need to abolish society as it is and we need to replace it with something better. And so see, I'm not just about oh, I hate Trump, which I have to admit I do. You know, the man is evil, corrosive, sick I shouldn't say evil, he's really sick. And the people who follow him, unfortunately, have gotten caught up in all this stuff. But it's not about that, because we've had this problem for centuries, you know. So I'm not going back to the status quo, I want something new. I'm not going back to the status quo, I want something new. And so I just wrote down some ideas about why we needed to abolish the system as we had it and what we want to replace it with, because I believe that what people need is a vision, a positive vision for the future, not just.
Speaker 2:I hate this and this is so terrible and I'm so angry. My stomach is churning. You know what I mean? I feel like you know I can't take it. I can't even tolerate any more anger, even if it's justified. I mean it's like I've got to get into a place of calm and serenity and say, okay, what should we do? And so that's where I this is how it happened and we have.
Speaker 2:If you're interested in reading the new Declaration of Independence, then it's on our website. You go to thestreaminfo and you'll see it right there and it. To do this, and the odds were against us before and not to sell out, not to say, oh no, it's impossible. All we can do is tinker at the edge. No, this is fundamentally wrong. It's fundamentally hurting human beings and the earth, all of us. I'll tell you, ceos are no happier or well than the rest of us slums, and neither are their wives, because I've worked with wealthy people, I've worked with poor people. They're so under stress. Everything's about money, money, money, getting ahead, getting to the top. I don't want to climb the ladder, I want to knock it down.
Speaker 1:Stick to the fertile ground that keeps you healthy and sane. That's a rate provided by nature. Assume the environment is clean.
Speaker 2:Oh, we have so much to do to try to repair our environment, if we possibly can. It's heartbreaking. It's heartbreaking.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I shifted, and again my political because of environment. I definitely. If you went to the left, talk to me as a teenager, I would definitely be the right person. I don't care, leave me alone. I got enough things to worry about now, but we got to take care of it. It's our home. We live in it.
Speaker 2:Exactly, exactly. It provides us with everything. It's just an example of not doing, not valuing housework Environmentalism is the housework of caring for the planet and we don't value women, we don't value housework, we try to get it for free and we don't value the environment, and it's fighting us in the butt.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. I was reading, skimming through, the whole new Declaration of Independence. I'm going to put that link to it, Sign that petition. I'm going to sign it because we just desperately need change. This is not me. You know to live. I just think we definitely need change. I mean, we can't keep going with the same situation. I don't care if you are conservative, liberal, socialist, green, whatever the heck you are. We need change because the system continues to be obsolete and corrupt. I don't even like the word socialism.
Speaker 2:It's a label, but I wanted to give you the history of how I got this label. But I'm a spiritual activist.
Speaker 1:Right yeah.
Speaker 2:I am a spiritual activist and I believe that we should be caring, that the purpose of society and the economy is to take care of people, the needs of people and the earth. That is my platform. I'm running on that platform and all of the things. And then we can get together and say, well, how could we do that and how could we do that and how you know, and there's a lot of ways, and I have some ideas that I put in the new Declaration of Independence, but I'm not stuck on any one idea. I'm saying it's our approach, our attitude, our gestalt, our framework, our mindset desperately needs changing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because this current system is just it's no bueno, it's no good, it's bad, it's. You know, it's no bueno, it's no good, it's bad. It continues to perpetuate Inequality, corruption, Pain pain suffering, Needless suffering. Misogyny, racism, all that Layers of division, even within the old versus young, men versus women, black versus white, like different latino groups. Different latino groups is even different among that, you know. Or even even within the family structure.
Speaker 1:Um, you know old versus young, traditional versus liberal. All of that we need to get. We need to. You know, we have a lot more in common once we get rid of all those labels, like you said exactly definitely not going to call you a socialist, because I just you know, america is just like, oh my God. Yeah, I'm not I just call you a spiritual activist. That's why I like it.
Speaker 2:I am a spiritual activist Because then, when I became spiritual and I began to see into people, I began to understand what was underneath all of this. But I'm not. People throw labels at me. Let them, you know I know that's different.
Speaker 1:I'm calling you, I'm calling you a spiritual actor. I'm making that conscious effort because it's beyond all of this stuff that's right it changes neither you know. I mean when you know you're not the first person I've interviewed that you've been labeled as a I'm going to use over over-the-top term demonic socialist. I had a lot of work with unions that he was labeled, oh, a demonic socialist. He was usually investigated by the FBI, tracked and everything. I won't be surprised. The FBI even stooped into you at one point because you was a socialist.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, I was reported to the FBI when I was 12. Oh yeah, I'm not surprised. When I was 12. The FBI had been through my garbage, you know, lots of times and I was working for women on welfare, trying to have them just learn what their rights were.
Speaker 2:You know, it's just breaks my heart, and I understand that working class people aren't perfect either. It's not about being perfect. It's about what our society is doing to all of us. You know, black men beat black women, right? Black women beat each other. I mean, it's like look at the violence in our society. By the way, I have a book. I want to pitch this and it's free. Everything that I'm talking about, that I'm doing that we're talking about tonight.
Speaker 2:it's all free Not that I wouldn't like some money and I have a nonprofit corporation but I'm not doing it for money and I'm trying to get out the word. That's my goal. That's why I'm here with you today. I've got a book called Living with Reality and it's 688 pages and it is free and it's a program of transformation, of how do we transform our consciousness so that we start thinking differently. So that is a big book and some people have studied it. A lot of people have studied it and found it valuable. It is free on my Healing Arts Network website, which I hope you're going to include that link, because the Healing Arts Network include my books, my blogs. I've got six books, six albums of music and it's healingartnetworkorg, and then you know the streaminfo and if you're interested in my counseling, I'm bethgreenorg.
Speaker 1:That I get paid for.
Speaker 2:That's how I make a living, but I also have a short book called Handbook for the Inner Revolution and it's under 100 pages and it's free on that website and you're welcome to look at it and see the general approach about how we are going to make this inner revolution, because I've given a lot of thought to that and I've been working with people and I see people changing slowly. But you know what makes a difference? When a lot of people start saying the same thing, boom, then there's a change. Right now people say, oh, that's crazy, you're a bit stupid, that's idealistic, you're a moron, whatever it is. When their next door neighbors are saying, have you heard Beth Green or Elias Marti or Joe Schmoe? Then all of a sudden it becomes acceptable.
Speaker 1:It's like doing yoga.
Speaker 2:It used to be like the weirdest thing in the world. Now every community center has yoga. I'm looking at that and I'm saying that's the kind of see how things change is when people start adopting. It start seeing seeming normal. So anyway, that's why I'm just letting you know that there's a lot. I've got a lot of resources that are free of charge because I know people. Some people have the money and some people don't.
Speaker 1:I mean you have a suggested donation. I'm sure like a late to all those right I do not well, you do not, I was gonna say, just do that, that, that that's like a nice process. Oh, if you have it, give donation. You can't, they could get the exactly.
Speaker 2:No, I don't even do that.
Speaker 1:I just put it out there free.
Speaker 2:but we do have at the healing arts network. But we do have at thehealingartsnetworkorg and also at bethgreenorg and thestreaminfo. You can make a donation. We have a donation button, but it's not quid pro quo. It's not like oh, if you want this book, you should make a donation, or all this music. I have albums of music. I play music every Thursday night. My husband and I do the Kindred Spirits Band where we improvise music and try to give people a lift and I never know what's going to come out. But I just sit there and wait for the higher consciousness to come through me and suddenly I'm playing.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. This is another guest, I don't know. I'm leaning towards the anti-capitalist route because normally I will just plug it to just a bunch of capitalist products in your face and it gives you the length. Some are affordable. I mean, I'm a little transparent with the prices. As you know, I don't expect you to get if you can't afford it, because I understand everyone has a different story. If you can afford it, look, give it. Don't give a donation. If you've got, if you don't know what to do with your money, donate to an organization. Okay, donate, just donate. If you don't know what you're thinking twice thrice. Donate, just donate. I love that.
Speaker 1:This is a call to action. I don't want to hear the money excuse. I don't want to hear it for this.
Speaker 2:That's it. I'm taking away the money, excuse.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you kill the money, you abolish the money. Excuse, you kill the money, you abolish the money. It's completely dead. If it was a person, it's blown up to many pieces. Okay, so it's dead. I don't want to hear that. I don't want you, just don't want to.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Okay, you're probably working. You're probably working with the super rich overlords. Okay, that's what you guys are going to assume.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, if you for an ulterior motive, you won't find one. Yeah, I mean, this is the most anti capitalist guess I have. Yet she's not. I guess she's set for revival, but I'm framing it that way because it's a bunch of freebies and donations. Normally it's just a product that costs a range from $20 to a few thousand dollars. Yeah, this is based on, but this one here zero, zero dollars. Donations are completely optional. She's going to give you the gift even if you don't give anything. So it's no excuse. No excuse to sign a petition to while you're at it. No excuse If you put in a comment.
Speaker 2:If you sign the petition, I don't even get your email. So, you can give me your email. In fact, you can even write to me, but you don't even get your email. So you can give me your email.
Speaker 1:In fact, you can even write to me but you don't have to, you don't have to do that, it goes to changeorg.
Speaker 2:So you see exactly ethical.
Speaker 1:This is ethical. Right here we got an example ethical. You may not like her opinion, but that's different, but at least she's ethical. I am, she is me. You know she's ethical. Your opinion that's a different story, but she's being ethical, something that both the left and the right could learn a heck of a lot, if I'm gonna be honest. But I could rant on that for hours without even pausing. Okay, but look, that's not gonna help you and that's not gonna bring value. We I think a lot of us know it, either subconsciously or consciously. Some people are a different level of awareness with that. So I, I get it.
Speaker 2:So you know, just check her out, just check her out, you know, no money required you don't have to give me your credit card in advance for the free thing that I'm going to give you exactly, you get the gift regardless.
Speaker 1:Okay, because she wants to make this. I want to say movement, this conscious movement, as inclusive as possible let's get anyone inclusive than that? Okay.
Speaker 2:That's exactly right.
Speaker 2:I mean, when I was five years old, I was starting to be a revolutionary and it was not in my family, believe me, my parents were not like this, nobody was, but I just I don't know. I was born with it and I'll. I would like to say one more thing about, you know, giving away my books and music and blogs and everything. By the way, I've done some music that has helped people reverse dementia and I give that away free to the Healing Arts Network. It's my husband. He has cognitive impairment and my music has helped him and there's a certain kind of music and it's on the piano and it's different. It's not like you know what I mean. It's got purpose and it helped him to reverse his dementia. So I'm here to help the best I can and to grow and learn myself, because I'm always growing and learning and correcting myself and seeing what's wrong with myself. But also I have to say that, even though I don't believe in God per se and as people understand God, I think God is an evolving consciousness and we're all part of that evolution, that God is evolving. We're evolving, we're part of it and all the gifts that I have, whether it's music that just comes to me, or books that just come to me, or when I do my counseling, it just comes to me.
Speaker 2:This is a gift. This is a gift. I couldn't make this up. If I tried, I could not sit down with a client and look right through them and say I see, you're two years old and you're sitting in the crib and your father is banking you. I'm just not saying that. That's true. But I mean that gift that I have this intuitive gift. I didn't earn it, I developed it. I've used it.
Speaker 2:Now I do charge for counseling because I have to make a living and I'm old and I'm sick and I don't know how I manage. And I have a lovely husband who actually does everything. He does make me the hot meal. My husband does everything physical in our house. I just talk and even then I get tired and I have to go to bed for several hours. But what I'm saying is it was a gift from the universe and I appreciate that gift and I want to share what has been given to me. I want to share it with others and if you want to support the work that we're doing, I appreciate that too. But just listening or commenting. We have two live streams a week on Facebook and YouTube and if you listen to our music or you listen to the Lighting the Way live stream, where I talk about what's going on, but from a higher consciousness perspective as much as possible, people write or give me a thumbs up or something. That's how I get paid. I know I've touched somebody.
Speaker 1:Hey look, she needs to make money. I'm not going to do nothing. She's a hypocrite. Yeah know I've touched somebody. Hey look, she needs to make money. I'm not going to do that. She's a hypocrite yeah, a hypocrite counselor.
Speaker 2:Why is she going to make money if?
Speaker 1:she's this, but look, look, everybody got to make money. We are in a deeply embedded capitalist society.
Speaker 2:So she's just playing along with the system that we are. Right, so that's what I do. But I've done a lot. I mean not only books and right. You know I've done groups for free, I've done a lot of things for free, but it's just, it's what I feel guided to do. I do, I do what I feel guided to do. I always try to do what is for the highest good of all I gotta say that's actually godly.
Speaker 1:Believe it or not, because tap into the consciousness, to universe. God made all that. So you're actually. You're actually god. It's not the way you know the christian cultural conditioning of it, right, but it's got and god is beyond all that exactly and this is and this is what I've said before, and some people don't like me for anything, call me a fake christian, I don't care. The bible is just a starting point for some people it's what you it you'll go beyond all of that.
Speaker 2:What people, human beings, have written down. I don't care whether God spoke to you by the time it comes through words and you put it on that piece of paper. It's not what God's in. Anyway, Because we are, we see everything through our own lenses. We are very limited and I hate it when people use the Bible to hurt others. You know, we should just model ourselves after Jesus a nice Jewish boy, and that would be okay. Or Buddha.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. If you don't like the Jesus example, use more Eastern. Look, I don't care, I'm a pragmatist, whatever works.
Speaker 2:That's how I am.
Speaker 1:I'm a pragmatist on that. But the solution has got to be compatible to people. Look, I think the church has already had verbally crucified me. That's how I am, I'm a prophetess on that. The solution's got to be compatible to people. Look, I think the church has already had verbally crucified me. That's okay. I've been criticized before. I mean, I'm not going to die, it's just words. They got the right to do it and I got the right not to care about it and just mock them with my free above speech. But let me just correct you one thing you are 80 years young and you continue to be young. That's only correct, that's only criticism. I have to say 80 years young, despite whatever trial you went through, diseases you have, you continue to go through. That's grit, resilience and it's all guided through consciousness. It is spiritual, because you just rely on the body. You'll be done for you would have been, this interview would never happen.
Speaker 2:That's right. People say I'm powered by the source. You know they do. I really don't know. And I have had a very hard life on top of that which we're not going to talk about, and I've also experienced political persecution and been arrested and all of that stuff. But I am, and I still have faith that it is possible for there to be a shift in consciousness. And I don't want to go down without a fight, I don't want to just say, oh, people will never change.
Speaker 1:I'm normally a cynical and a negative person. Here I think it's happening, yeah, I think it's happening. I really think it's happening, and it's just different people's coming from different sorts, but I think it's really happening and you know, for once I can say I am truly organically optimistic, I believe it.
Speaker 2:And it's not even organized. It's like people all over the place are saying no and are saying yes to caring and no to brutality.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean look, let's just talk about Donald Trump just real quick with the martyr example. Look how much protests are just bubbling up People all across states, even red state, even some republicans don't like him it goes beyond just democrats. I like in him, which that that was a given but even republicans would say.
Speaker 2:I regret voting for this evil asshole west virginia, which donald trump won very comfortably, a very red state. I've been there personally, it's very republican me, I'd say, oh, I support trump, just survive.
Speaker 1:I'm not. I'm not a trump supporter or a hater. I, I, I. I only praise him when he does something right, but, but, as the second term, he's doing a lot more wrong than right. To just give my overall summary I think it's too radical, it's too crazy, too reckless, too hurtful and definitely too, um, hateful now I'll even go beyond the race and all of that. He's attacking anyone who is quote, unquote non-American In his eyes, non-american, which is pro-Palestinian stance.
Speaker 2:American to be a realist. The anti-migrant.
Speaker 1:unless it fits their convenience, they will keep the migrants out. That benefits them. That's the hypocrisy with those anti-migrant Republicans If they know them and use them, they'll keep them. Kid Rock has been caught with that.
Speaker 2:I know, I know, isn't that juicy?
Speaker 1:Look, I'm not anti-Republican. There's certain Republicans I would support because I don't believe in left-right, I don't believe in party loyalty, I believe in American loyalty and I agree, even though I start off with red and blue. But I go beyond that at the end of the day, because it's really beyond that. We're human beings and we'd be surprised once you break all these stupid, limited political labels, we can be compatible, we can unite and we can definitely make change, and that's why change is not happening. Just like she said, we're being divided on different beliefs, identities, on reasons, or just distracted with social media, with nonsense. I don't know that they like twerking and all this. Not, you know, nonsense is getting distracted. Oh, you got a big, she got a big, you know what you know and watch nonsense like that, or memes and all that. I don't get me wrong, I don't mind fun but that. But don't be too absorbed by that, because it's not going to change your life. You're barely changing the algorithm. Okay, yeah, you gotta deal with the real world. Because you'll deal with the real world, the digital world will definitely be corrupted much faster. Okay, because it's lightning speed. Lightning speed, it goes just like that instantaneous and quick. Okay, now let me make sure I went thoroughly with your plugins because you have a d-ray, I have a decent amount of it.
Speaker 1:The next steps is where it adds a link to all of that. As she has said counseling, the relaxing music it adds good versus dementia. I wish I would have met you years ago. I probably would have reversed a few of my family members' dementia. But hey, whatever is done is done. There's nothing I can do about it. I'm definitely going to sign this petition because of change. I'm definitely going to sign it. It needs to be done.
Speaker 2:Can you put the links in your description? Oh yes, that's what I'm going to do, that's standard practice.
Speaker 1:Thank you. I don't even need to be told that. I always do that because that's what I would assume. And guess what I'm going to do. Even the ones that are careless, I do it anyways. It's automatic assumption in my brain. And even the people who pay attention say oh yeah, you got a lot of links. Sometimes you might even overdo with the links. Hey, I'd rather overdo than underdo.
Speaker 2:Sure Pick and choose.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, choose what you want to click on. Oh, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry I cut you off.
Speaker 2:No, no, I agree. I'm saying you can pick and choose what you want, rather than have it there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, go. Whatever you know, whatever your consciousness tells you, there you go.
Speaker 2:That's right. Follow your inner guidance.
Speaker 1:There you go, the inner guidance.
Speaker 2:Get back consciousness, inner guidance, divine inspiration, oneness.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Well, once you tap into that, we'll be a much better place and remember and be consistent, because we could be disconnected. It's like technology loses connection. We could lose connection to the consciousness as well. You know, it's like we lose Wi-Fi signal. We could lose our spiritual signal.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's why I love to use the Wi-Fi smartphone analogy. You know so, the millennial, my generation and Gen Zers, you could get it all right. I mean you're halfway.
Speaker 2:Make sure your spiritual receptors your spiritual Wi-Fi is on and you're hooked and don't drink, smoke, eat sugar or kill yourself with stuff that's really hurting us Drugs. Please don't do that. That destroys your spiritual receptors and it ruins your bodies and makes us unconscious and it stops us from doing what we have to do. I'm not talking about people not taking drugs that they really need. I'm not talking about that. I'm just saying people are so desperate, they're trying to make themselves feel better and in the long run, it hurts them. It hurts me to see them doing that.
Speaker 1:Look at that, if all of you don't have a grandmother or a mother figure, you got one right here.
Speaker 2:I'll take it. I have no children of my own. I've been too ill to have a child, but I've got lots of sterile children.
Speaker 1:But don't be a child. Look, I mean, you're playful, surrogate, temperate, whatever. That's all in with me from there. I just want to make sure you're getting the ideas, rather you're comfortable. Not that I don't care for, because, trust me, I've promoted, you know, some republicans, you know, and I put some democrats, even libertarian, whatever, just to give you exposure, different ideas, and you could cherry pick what you like. Okay, I like this part of the material, of this part of the green party. I don't like this. I think that's too crazy. This one, this Republican, wants to go back to 1800s. No, thank you. You cherry pick what you like, okay, and you know you work from there, all right, okay, guess what it? Just look, she's giving a lot of freebies, a lot of guests don't give this much freebies. Ok, you're getting freebies, you're going to get. Just click, let's take much energy.
Speaker 1:Click. You know, use your little thumb or finger. You know, use a mouse, click the finger. And if you're in a smartphone, use your thumb Click, click, click. No excuse. If she could do it, being chronically ill, you definitely can Stop being a sorry lazy ass. I'm just going to say, like that, if you don't do it, it's because of that. Okay, that's all I'm going to say. Okay, Enough of me bashing my listeners and viewers. You already got enough bashing, especially those who don't want to do anything.
Speaker 1:You complain, but yet you do nothing. I don't feel sorry for you. You complain, you do nothing. I don't feel bad for you. You love your problem. Love the solution to change or you love your problem. There's no in between. If you don't know you're loving your problem you go back to loving your problem.
Speaker 2:Let's support people to change. Let's focus on that. Let's support people to change.
Speaker 1:Now you see, she's more gracious. I'm a more aggressive one.
Speaker 2:Well, I'll tell you, it's because there's always a reason.
Speaker 1:The verbal with but-. No, there's always a reason for what people do.
Speaker 2:It's just that we don't know what that reason is. If what people do, it's just that we don't know what that reason is. If we could go deep inside them, we'd know why they are or aren't doing what they're doing. So I do believe in compassion, but I also believe we need to be aware and we need to be honest and we need to look at the consequences of our behavior. I'm completely for that. Oneness, accountability and mutual support.
Speaker 1:All right, I don't know what else you want to add, but I think you already add so much value already, just based on this great conversation. If it goes longer, it's because I really think it's great, thank you. I would cut off between the 50, an hour mark. You already went over that. Maybe what the end is, you might probably chop down to an hour and 10. I don't care about length as much, I just care about value. That's my guidance in a natural, flowing conversation. Now, oh, beth Green, you got to be a capitalist here. I want you to answer this in a certain way. Oh, wait a minute.
Speaker 2:Why should I answer that she's?
Speaker 1:talking about this socialist crap.
Speaker 2:No cut off, no interview.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Free, flowing conversations. I mean, I need to hear stuff that even I'm personally uncomfortable with. Okay, and know, and, and that's it. If it was my show, it would have been about New York center-leaning. Just invite only moderate, moderate people, which to me that's not even helpful either. That's when we create our own echo chamber, and that's being very hypocritical. That's why I got expanded to other tents. You know they. You know each idea has got its good part, bad part and interesting parts. Okay, and that's what I'm doing here.
Speaker 1:All right, enough of my yammering, let's get to my shameless plugin. Give a like, subscribe and then, if you want, just like her, I have an optional donation option of three dollars a month. Just three, three, you know. And for the christians I got an easy to monetize father, son, holy spirit. Or for the basement fan one, two, three, three strikes, you're out one or three times a charm. They're high options, but you donate, you know, based on your comfortability and wants. I'm not gonna force you because I don't believe in that. I believe whatever I'm receiving is meant through consciousness. God, buddha, vishnu, wherever the heck you're believing, okay, or I don't know, the cookie monster, there's just a more ridiculous example in there. But but all the seriousness and leave a review on apple podcast. Leave a review. I want an honest review. No, I just want an honest review. I don't want a overly glowing review if you really, if you really think it's five stars great.
Speaker 1:I got someone who gave it one star without explaining anything. How's it really? But hey, I accept this risk, so it's whatever. I was gonna get it eventually. And I eventually got after, after having my podcast for like five years. Right, I got that anatomist one star. The the shadow hater I call that one. Every at all podcasts has gotten it at some point. That's okay. Now at least I'm a little more authentic, right? I don't want a perfect score, because I think a perfect score means it's rigged, it. It's fake to me, and anyone with a five star that's not going to last, that's not going to last. I think a four star to me it's the best, it's real. There's at least some people who don't like it, and that's fine. I don't need everyone to like it. I don't need your permission to live. You don't need my permission to live. Okay, period, and that's all I want to say about that.
Speaker 1:So, once you have complete this audio journey or visual journey, you have a blessed day, afternoon or night. Thanks for watching.
