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282- Beyond the Stage: Acting Tools for Everyday Life With James Rojas-Taylor
James Rojas Taylor explains how acting techniques and tools can provide all of us with mental and emotional literacy, giving us skills to navigate life more effectively in any situation. He argues that these powerful methods have been overlooked outside the acting profession despite their life-changing potential to help us understand ourselves better.
• The Stanislavski System features seven questions that help ground us in the moment: who am I, where am I, when is it, what do I want, why do I want it, how do I get it, what do I need to overcome
• Our educational system programs us to think and act the same way rather than teaching us how to be authentic individuals
• Acting tools can help create "multiple versions of yourself" that allow you to adapt to different situations with different authentic responses
• Children should be taught emotional literacy before adolescence to better navigate that challenging period
• The "It factor" consists of five learnable skills: active listening, charm, intensity, generosity, and poise
• Politics often functions as a distraction from class struggles, keeping people fighting among themselves rather than addressing systemic issues
• Taylor's book "All Your Best Selves" offers practical exercises for developing mental and emotional literacy
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Welcome everyone to Politically High Tech with your host, elias. This is going to be for some of you who got, I don't know, the normal virus. Yes, I'm going to say it, the normal virus. But you think you know what normal is. That's the biggest illusion people could live with. What the heck is normal?
Speaker 1:People learn differently, people look different, people process things differently, people go for more analytical, emotional angle or a bit of both, whatever we are individuals, and I think the word normal, I think, is the biggest misleading term. I mean what is really normal? Maybe the cultural sense is some normal, but there are so much different cultures out there that look, it just dwindles down the word normal to the point that's non existent. So we can learn something that has been overlooked for a long time, because the understanding of this concept has been fixated to a certain time period and we haven't evolved our understanding with what it really is Before we get into it.
Speaker 1:I know we'll do a short and ambiguous intro because I'm keeping it that way on purpose. That's when the guest comes in, because I want a reason to shut up. Okay, I'm gonna have the guests fill in that gap. So let's welcome james rojas taylor and he's gonna tell us what his concept is, but before we do that, let's get a bit of an intro. Let's start with the intro, since it's your first time here. What, what do you want the listeners and audience to know about?
Speaker 2:Hi Lash, thank you for having me. I really appreciate it. I don't know, I've never really been big on talking about myself so much. I always felt more like a messenger than anything else. It's not so much me that's important, it's the message. But I mean just speaking of myself a little bit. I mean I've lived all over, I'm from Jersey, I live in Alabama right now, been in the military, I was an actor for 30 years, like I've jumped around, bounced around everywhere and I think it's picking up all those little pieces and even connecting back to an incident in my youth that really kind of helped open my eyes to this idea. And that's kind of what I'm here to do is to show that people need to be start using acting tools and techniques so they can learn mental and emotional literacy.
Speaker 1:Wow, I think I got to start throwing rewards for the shortest intro. You're definitely a contender, I can say that. But if I analyze it, I'll be real critically. Just using numbers and all that minus my interruptions, you're definitely top five. I mean, feel free to add a little, or maybe just add the message you want to spread.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the message is like I said, that's really what the most poignant thing is for me, and it's just it's understanding that we aren't taught how to be. We're programmed from youth. In school. We're all taught how to think the same, how to dress the same, how to be the same, and if you step out of these parameters, you generally get ostracized, but that's the wrong way of being. If you step out of these parameters, you generally get ostracized, but that's the wrong way of being. What I'm saying is, if we take these tools and techniques and learn how to be us, we can learn how to be us in different ways. Like there's a great example of just not to happen too long ago.
Speaker 2:Are you familiar with that cartoon, gravity Falls for the Disney channel? I have heard it watched a few times. There's this significant part. It's like the question of who wrote a certain journal in it, and it was one of the key plot points. But what happens in entertainment, especially nowadays with all the contact we have, is people guessed which character wrote it before the series ended, so it spoiled it.
Speaker 2:Well, what the creator did was, again, this is a display of mental and emotional literacy. He drew a picture of a different character writing the journal, put timestamps on it, took a picture of it, put it on 4chan anonymously, took another photo of a different event that happened in the cartoon series, again put it on 4chan. And when that the second one, the minor spoiler happened, it gave credence to the bigger one, which was something that the creator unhonestly put up. After that, he puts a tweet out saying I'm so fuming right now, and then a little bit later he deletes the tweet. And then, after that, the internet just took, just did what it did, and it shifted the focus off of the character who wrote the diary who they figured it out to this other character.
Speaker 2:So here's this person who, using these certain tools and techniques in a positive way, manipulated his entire audience to take them off the track so they wouldn't spoil the ending of the show that they love. And it's like that's the capacity of things we can do as individuals. More than that, think about this that we're at the point now where we're teaching actors how to use real emotions in imaginary circumstances. Where do we learn how to use our emotions? All right, now think about this one step further. Every one of us goes through adolescence. None of us know how to use our emotions, and we get just ransacked with our emotions. Well, what if we taught these tools and techniques to elementary school kids before they hit adolescence, so now, when they hit adolescence, they're armed properly, instead of going through this world of learning everything firsthand? As it happens, like I said, there's so many ways that we can use these tools and techniques to help.
Speaker 1:It's just we're not there yet All right, and this is my crisis of the American culture is just so reactive until the problem blows up. Then we realize, oh, my goodness, we got to do something. We got to do something because we've been operating with limited vision and that's just me, that's best way I can describe it or blinders, okay, tunnel vision. We just focus what we want to pay attention to. Let's focus going in that one direction and, yeah, I think this is stuff that I wish I learned as a freaking kid because, let's be be honest, for most of the I would say, 99.9% of people who have reached out a lesson, it was the most awkward phase in our lives.
Speaker 1:It's like we had to relearn some of the things and emotions. You're right, it was out of whack. It was more anger, more sadness, or probably too giddy to the point that you thought to be weird. Okay, it's all of this stuff. I mean, I went through. I went through the highs and the lows, and it wasn't manic depression or anything. We just didn't know how to handle new.
Speaker 2:It's. Anything that's new is awkward because this is a whole new body of energy that we're given, but we have no instructions of how to use it. And it's not just about the way we feel, it's about the way we think. There's a method Stanislavski created called the Stanislavski system. It's seven questions. Now, these seven questions are designed for the actor to ground their character in the moment. What I'm saying is that we as human beings can use these seven questions in our lives to ground our character in the moment, because we talk about a character all the time. You got to work hard, build your character, don't lie. It'll affect your character because we have that inside ourselves. Now, these seven questions to me work like situation awareness, like a submarine's underwater. It can't see nothing, right. How does it know where to go? How does it not run into stuff? The answer is sonar. It sends out a ping. That ping bounces off of like submarines, whales, the surface, surface vessels and whatnot, and lets it know what information it needs so it can make the right moves. These seven questions do the same thing.
Speaker 2:Now, like I said, their point is to break down a moment in seven different ways. These are the questions. Number one who am I? This is the moment in relation to you. Number two where am I? This is the moment in relation to the environment. Number three when is it? This is the moment in relation to time. Number four what do I want? This is the moment in relation to purpose. Number five why do I want it? This is the moment in relation to desire. Number six how do I get it? This is the moment in relation to action. And number seven what do I need to overcome? This is the moment in relation to action. And number seven what do I need to overcome? This is the moment in relation to obstacles.
Speaker 2:So, these seven questions, whatever situation you walk into, they will allow you to move forward because you're gaining information. Even if you can't ask all seven questions, whatever you do are able to answer will help you Because, like, what time is it? Am I about to go out in the road right before rush hour traffic? Am I about to talk to my boss about something difficult before he had something to eat? You know so time is imperative in our lives. You know who am I? What is your role in the moment? Like if I'm having a conversation with my fiance? Well, am I the issue in the conversation we're having. Am I there to help her or am I there just to listen? What is the role in a situation? If I'm in a work project, what is my role? Am I the leader or my follower? Because if you get too many Indians and not enough Indians, you're going to be in a rough space when you're trying to do and complete any mission.
Speaker 2:And it's the understanding that we can know what we want. But if we don't ask, how will we understand it? And I see that all the time there's so many people, I'll straight up ask them yo, what do you want? It's like I don't know, I never thought about it. It's like, if you don't think, well, what does the actor work with? What's the marble that we chisel? The answer is the human mind and emotions. But the reality is we don't have a mind and emotions for the stage and a mind and emotions for real life. If so, facto everything, all these tools and techniques that these guys created allow they work for all of us, because that was their tool the mind and emotions and all they did was create tools the hammers, the shapers, the polishers to shape that marble.
Speaker 2:What I'm saying is, if we give these tools and techniques to everyone else. It'll change the world, the same way like when we learn to read and write. Change the world for the better. We learn mathematics. Change the world for the better because it's literacy. Literacy gives us understanding. What we don't have understanding in is how our mind and emotions work, because the human brain is the most powerful supercomputer known to mankind. Right Well, what's your iOS? What's your Windows 11? What's your Linux, red Hat? How do you interface your mind and emotions in a simple, easy way? And what I'm saying is that's what these tools and techniques are. They're the basic operating system for the human mind and emotions.
Speaker 1:no, so you're bringing. I'll say the yeah, you know, I see what, actually I'm beginning to understand it. Yeah, so you're bringing was sadly limited to acting, which is obviously pretty criminal. You're bringing it to, you know, regular people I mean all people, really. That goes beyond this. But it's a broadway theater, tv, social well, social media I don't even, I'm not even sure to use it, to be honest if you, if you use your mind and emotions, these work.
Speaker 2:But it's because, again so social media it's a form of entertainment. So understanding how to use your emotions allows you to turn on your passion and intensity. And passion and intensity is what get people to draw. It makes you magnetic. People draw to you in that aspect and it's like what I was talking about when we first started. The reason it works is because acting has changed.
Speaker 2:If you look at the 2,500 years of Western acting, the first 2,100 years, going back to the ancient Greeks, it was about pretend, masking representation. But like the twenty three, twenty one to twenty three hundred year following I'm oversimplifying, but the Victorian Shakespearean era, it moved towards naturalism and realism. But once Konstantin Stanislavski came along around the 1900s, he changed the game. He made it philosophical. It's about being becoming someone else mentally and emotionally, not pretending, living truthfully in imaginary circumstances, and that's what these tools allow. But if they allow that, they will also allow us to live truthfully and authentically in real circumstances in our real life. We just have to take the tools and apply them.
Speaker 2:Like Meisner, technique teaches how to read behavior. Reading behavior is huge. It's very important In espionage, in like law enforcement, because people are deceptive. But people are deceptive in our lives too. How do you know somebody's not lying to you if you can't read them? And two once you start exercising your emotional body and it's the same way you exercise in the gym you just feel. You feel your emotions over and over again and they get stronger.
Speaker 2:But the more you do that you become an empath. And if you become an empath you gain emotions as a sense, as a new sense. It's kind of like the eyes, the sense of the eyes. It detects shape and light. The ears detect sounds, the nose detect chemicals. Your soul, your emotional body, detects emotional energy. And that's what to me emotions are just flavored energy.
Speaker 2:So it's kind of like a cop who walks a beat and has that gut feeling. Gut feeling isn't something just naturally, it happened upon him, it's because he walked that beat 20 years. He knows how everything feels. So when something feels off, it hits it and that's what we call that gut feeling. And it's even how we speak about like emotions. When we talk about music, like a jazz player or an opera singer, we say, oh, they have soul, man, they're reaching out to them. Well, how do we talk about like a psychopath and sociopaths who lack emotion. We say they're soulless. So that's where I'm connecting the soul into it, not so much in a religious way, but in an actual way to understand how our emotional body exists inside of us.
Speaker 1:It's also a more universal context I want all humans have access to. I don't want to hear you know social media is all secretive, covert.
Speaker 2:Christian converted. Yeah, to me it's just the soul, is just the emotional body that resides we all have it.
Speaker 1:Rather you want to deny it, that you're provocative. I think it's foolish, but that's up to you. Okay, you can put it in the comment section if you think we're wrong. Like I said, trolls hate it. Feel free to comment. I'm just going to ignore you. You got your right to express your nonsense. I got the right to ignore you, okay. Right to ignore you, okay. So feel free just to type it. I'm just gonna ignore you.
Speaker 1:But if you have something constructive, you add value, conversation or even question the idea, that's fine, I'm okay with it. You know, and you know and trust me, these guests here are fine with it that I, that I could vouch for, I have to agree with everything. You know, disagreement doesn't equal hate or an attack, just like you know. I'm sure he's willing to, capable enough, because he has the emotional regulation, you know, I would say a gold standard. That's what I'm trying to aim for. So you know, just getting agitated with something. What do I want to become? Someone who's more calm and stoic when chaos happens, right. How do I become? That being right? You know you want to expand some situations and that makes great sense. I just wonder why it was just, I might say gatekeep, but why was it just limited to um actors? I think that's what I got.
Speaker 2:A couple reasons because these actors, they weren't trying to create like a self-help course, they were just trying to perfect their art. So it didn't occur to them. They didn't see past beyond their art. And the reality is is nobody looks to theater kids for world changing knowledge. So who was looking to them to create this? So it's been sitting there for 100 years, just completely overlooked, because, I mean, it's the world. Who's paying attention to anything? You know we can't handle anything more than and again.
Speaker 2:This is another reason why these tools and techniques are important, because we're trying to be in a fed that humanity has to work in seven second sound bites because that's all we can handle. Oh, we are supercomputers. We can process a lot. We are literally being bred to be stupid.
Speaker 2:So the 1%, think tanks, politicians, political leaders all of these people collectively are spending billions upon billions of dollars corporations too to understand how human beings think, how they feel, how they act, so they can control the way we buy, how we vote. All of that is mental and emotional manipulation. If we don't understand, it's no different than someone hands you a contract and you can't read what's in it. You don't know. Well, how do you know that people aren't freaking, messing with you mentally and emotionally if you can't read those things, if you don't have that literacy.
Speaker 2:So gaining this literacy will make us smarter. It'll allow us to see all the bad things that are happening mentally and emotionally in our life, and not just from the 1% politicians, but from personal relationships, family and friends. Who in your family is using you that you don't even realize because that red flag hasn't come up. This is how you read the red flags, and it's about gaining empathy as well, because as you create these, as you go in your body and learn how to use these tools and techniques, you create different versions of yourself, and as you create those different versions, you understand how humanity works in different ways. It's not just about the way you think and feel. It's about the way other people think and feel. And when you see that, it creates empathy within you, so we'll be creating a more thinking, compassionate and caring species overall.
Speaker 1:That would be useful for even in the job too, because there's a whole lot of politics going on. I'm sure you're aware of that, and you already said family and even dealing with a random interaction on the street or on the yard.
Speaker 2:I mean, even go back to politics. What's going on now is crazy and it's not, like I said, like you're saying earlier, it's not a Trump thing. This is the left and the right are attached to the same body the rich. So, whether you vote Democrat or Republican, you're still voting against yourself, because you're voting for you're playing the exact game that the rich want us to play. If America is supposed to work, we need to treat every, every political seat, from president down to county comptroller, like jury duty. It sucks, but everybody's got to do it. No more 30 years in office. You get one shot. There's 350 million of us.
Speaker 2:We should be rotating people in and out, and if we did that, there would be nobody sitting on the top to collect everything because they would have to come right back into the mix so they wouldn't want to screw things up. The problem is the system that we've allowed to become corrupted. You know it's up to us to like. The reality is is America is not a gift, it's not a lottery ticket, it's a charge. It's a charge that every American citizen needs to hold up, but we don't have the mental and emotional literacy to hold it up. That's why we give it to politicians and people in charge so they can do. It'm just going to say super brief. I started off I thought being a flavor or the red flavor of control.
Speaker 1:You're still being controlled and screwed. You're just changing the color and the orientation, which is so superficial, it's so nonsensical and, sadly enough, I'm seeing that more people's realizing that, which is great. We just got to turn that to a charge. It's like you said. I perfectly agree. We have people that's been there 20, 30, few, even 40, close to 40 years, which is insane. And we have so much more people than ever, and I'm sure we have more capable people who could just be doing that. And I do support term limits regardless of age. I don't get you start at young or, if I'm going to be nice to the elders, advanced age, I mean my advanced age. I'm talking about 60 plus.
Speaker 2:Okay, it's on us Because, to me, I'm not against term limits, but I don't think we need them. It's our own, because term limits, again, it's one of those things that handicaps us because, oh, we don't need to do it because we have term limits. No, we have to be responsible enough to say, all right, this guy needs to get out. Been there too long, you know it's. We live in the country we choose. We're just making stupid choices and we don't want to see that because the Republicans I firmly believe the Republicans are in place to take everything they can and give it to the rich. The Democrats are in place to give false hope to the poor that they're going to stop the Republicans from taking everything from the poor and giving it to the rich. But it's not true, it's just a farce. They're both complicit because, I mean, there was a time when both sides had full control of the government. You know all three branches.
Speaker 2:Obama was thinking 2008. Did they pass, you know, universal health care? Nope, they gave us the ACA and, granted, the ACA was better than nothing, but it's still trash Compared to the rest of the world. The medical and the rest of the world is trash and we could have done better. But again they're not going to because they're controlled just like the right. Yep exactly.
Speaker 1:I'm sure some people say, oh, these crazy socialists are attacking. No, no, no, no. This ain't about socials or any of that. We do better, all right, I mean our gdp. So far it's number one, but it's not going to be there for long, especially the way we're acting. Okay, we are stagnant, we're even declining. I'm just gonna be honest. I'm a tough love american. I say it like it is. I love america, but I'm not gonna, you know, turn the blind to say, oh no, there's nothing wrong. America, america's the best it's ever been. We all come on. Most of us know that's bullcrap.
Speaker 2:Okay, oh yeah and it's the way we read the markets too. It's like, yeah, the gdp is good, yeah, the economy well, I mean, it was good, now it's tanking. But still, all those things are good for the rich. They're not good for america. Vast majority of america is hurting, and it's been hurting and it's been going down for my entire life. But because it's going up for the rich, we treat it like sports teams.
Speaker 2:Yeah, america's doing great, we're on top, bro. We can't feed our kids, we can't take care of our elderly. Who cares? To me it's like who cares how good the economy is doing when it's only working for 1%? If the 99% are suffering and dying for 40 years probably longer than that what's the point? No, is it just so we can, you know, hold up the people in the ivory tower and feel better because they're on top? No, there's too much to be had.
Speaker 2:And it's kind of like the way the body works. If the human body, the human body, currency is blood, blood moves all around and it carries everything to it. What if the heart and the lungs were like screw the feet, we're taking all the blood, they don't need any blood. What does it do? It cuts it off and kills it. It's like when a hyperthermia happens.
Speaker 2:That's exactly that's kind of what's happening with America. It's hypothermia. It's taking all the resources and giving it to the few that have the critical power and saying screw all the rest while it all dies off, like America's been dying off my whole life and it's getting blander as well. It's like those pictures you see with McDonald's in the 80s versus now, how it was all colorful, fun and nice, and now it's just grayscale. Everything's grayscale because it's cheaper, because the rich don't want to spend money into us having anything. They don't want us to be happy, they don't want us to be entertained, they just want us to sit in our box and do our job and shut up. And that's not a way to live. And do our job and shut up, and that's not a way to live, regardless of how good the economy is. Oh right.
Speaker 1:And this is a, this is a fundamental systemic issue, you know this is. You know I don't give you left, right, center, whatever. This is an issue that affects anybody who is not, especially if you're not wealthy, and that's, you know. Independents, democrats, republicans, that's a lot of y'all. Okay, that's the 90, I would say, the 90% of this population.
Speaker 1:Okay, y'all hurting in some way, some more severe than others, granted, but we hurting and we have to sacrifice our basic needs just to get by. Yeah, you can't feed the kids, you can't even take care of the spouse, you can't. You know, you got to sacrifice between what? The food, you know, for example, some families have to make that painful decision. So, learn all this, this is, I'm going to call this acting skills, go beyond, or something like that, or emotional regulation, go beyond, whatever the title is along those lines, or just connect it to our, or change our, you know being, be connected to our core being so we could be molded. You know, appropriately, let's just say that to the situation Instead of just oh, I'm going to be a stone cold killer in with my wife. Come on this, be stone cold killer mentality is not going to go well with the wife.
Speaker 1:That's emotional withdrawal and all that. That's one example. We could come up with billions of examples.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's programmed into us. Again, the whole alpha male concept or A-type personality. To me, a-type personality just masks D-level behavior. That's all it is. A-type personalities keep saying, oh, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this the quiet part out loud. I'm going to do this for me, I'm going to make this happen for me, I'm going to get money for me. That's what A-type personality is. It's about me.
Speaker 2:It's not taking care of the group Bonobos, freaking chimpanzees. That's real alpha male, because it's about social bonds, it's about empathy, building community. That's what we should be doing, but we're not. We're too busy trying to take, take, take and the people on top, and not just like the 1%, but the people on bottom, who are like the bullies and the takers. They're taken from the rest of us too, and it's like once we gain mental and emotional, we can see that and choose who we're going to keep in our circle and who we're going to let out and about how we get used to.
Speaker 2:Because, even going back to the political spectrum, to me left, right, center, none of that matters. All of those were created by the top. It's the ups who created the left and right to keep the downs, fighting each other. It's not about left and right, it's about up versus down. This is class war, it's not political war.
Speaker 2:Once we get rid of politics and see past that because, honest to God, I don't believe we've developed a system of government that will carry us into the future All of the stuff we have is thinking backwards. You know we keep adding new stuff, but it's just the same thing we're doing. We're not evolving, so to speak. Once we evolve, we'll realize that the systems of government we have now are basically useless because they don't allow us all to participate. They're designed to allow a few to participate, and that's not how it works. So once we change, we'll have greater control over our country and our future, and that's what we need, because right now we're at the whim and fancy of freaking sadistic people, because the rich don't just want everything and want us to have nothing, they want us to suffer too. That's getting plainly obvious when you're seeing the political moves that are happening. It's like there's too many people up there who just they seem to enjoy the pain that the people below them feel, and to me that's just sadistic.
Speaker 1:So you know this is. I know this is tough for some of you to listen, but if you're brave enough, I give you respect and those of you who tune out, you can continue. For those of you who need to hear this, that you ignore it, you're going to continue to go through this pain of suffering. And since you want to numb yourself, you know, sadly, that is up to you, but it's foolish. And I say I, I'm becoming less afraid to demand change, because change is definitely needed. It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter where you're at. You know, to me that doesn't matter if you left, right, center is to change is needed.
Speaker 1:It's a systemic issue, it's a societal issue, it's a class issue. Ok, it's not about being liberals better than being a conservative or vice versa. No, that's that stupid and that's what they love to use. Does it keep us fighting among each other? You know, blame the immigrant and blame this certain skin color. Go, you know, or blame, or blame this. Hey, even some white people are victims of this. The poor ones, of course, blame that one too. So you got to get beyond that. Beyond that, I perfectly agree. But as long as we keep fighting in these alcohol distractions, the race, the political orientation, even the sexual orientation, the young, old and all of that. That's just all distractions and a lot of us have fallen for it.
Speaker 1:I have fallen for some of that as well. You know, of course I know better, or I just choose to support my ego more than anything. So this is stuff that it needs to be heard. I don't care if you want to hear it. Forget about what you want to hear. What you want to hear is convenience.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's about developing yourself. It's kind of like if you look at an actor, an actor who has stage fright. The reason they have stage fright is because they don't know their beats, they don't know their moments, they don't know the blocking. They don't know the blocking, they don't know. Well, if you looked in the normal person's world, what is states right, referred to as Insecurity? So if you want to beat insecurity, how do you beat insecurity? Go into yourself and start answering the questions. Answer your beats, answer the moments, what is the blocking, what are you insecure about? And then, once you start doing that, you're going to see.
Speaker 2:Well, it sounds a lot like therapy. Now, just like I said, that's what I was saying earlier before we started going recording is how acting and psychology go hand in hand. Now, acting is very much a form of therapy because you're asking yourself all these questions to develop yourself. You're just developing this imaginary character. So I'm making the argument is why are we working so much harder to create and develop imaginary people than real people? Because that's what we're doing. We're using these tools and techniques to create and you can see it through performances in movies, these amazing Oscar winning performances.
Speaker 2:If they can do that, with these tools and techniques, imagine what you can do for yourself. Because that's all they are. They're just tools, and they allow you to develop yourself in a new way and see the world in a new way, to grow and develop yourself. Once we start doing that, we're going to be so much more formidable, because the rich and powerful are just rich and powerful. They're not smart, they're not more capable. Most of them are just dumber, but they're dumber with a lot more resources. And that's what's beating us. It's not that they're out thinking us, they're just out resourcing us. But if you want to level the playing field, learn how to out think them, and now they have to catch up to you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, why do you think all these actors, let's just use the Oscar where you perform. Why do you have so much charisma? We connect with them because it's so believable. They channel, I'm sure, their real emotions, just like you said they got to their psyche. Just like you said they got to psyche to say, oh, I'm going to act like, I'm going to act like a crackhead or this or this super supportive wife or or this emotionally well-balanced man, whatever the role is, you know, just use an actor role that you're familiar with. Fill in the blank, especially once I captivate you. I mean, let's use the movie. I always like to use this because I always connect with this one. Let's use the dark knight.
Speaker 1:Why do you think that joker performance was so great? Because it got to, it really got into the darkness of someone who was a nut, and that was performed so well. We bought it, even though it's fictional. Joker's a fictional character, but it connected to us as such, a so emotional level is how nutty this guy was. I mean, he's not, he's not the best, he's not an example for role models, to be clear. But the reason why we gravitate yourself, you gravitate towards the joker because the acting performance was so great again, and I like what you're saying here.
Speaker 1:I'm taking notes. I'm just I'm trying. I'm trying to take notes here because this is something that it's useful and this is something that I think this is a missing green to some of my. I'm going to start using those separate questions. Well, it's you know. I hope you're getting this.
Speaker 1:Listeners and viewers. Look, it's pretty self-serving because I want to learn too, but I want to make sure you're learning it as well. I want to make sure as at least a somewhat of a communal impact, instead of just me, me, me, me, me, or, whilst there's no point in this podcast, there's even no point of breaking him. Okay, I'm trying to bring this to you because there's something that we could use, and this is you know, this could be uncovered. You know, we're learning about ourselves every day. There's unknown parts about ourselves. I mean, it sounds crazy. I know everything about me, but do you know how you're gonna react when you have to jump off a plane? No right, so do you? I mean, come on, this is something that I think we yeah, um, I mean, I don't think it was gatekeeped, I don't want. Let me just be clear. I don't think it was gatekeeped. I just think it wasn't ignored brought up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just not seen. It was just, it's like a diamond and red was just sitting in a corner and nobody was looking at it.
Speaker 1:Right. Yeah, exactly that's what I believe, because I don't believe it was just purposely gatekeep. That's my impression. It's nobody's fact, right.
Speaker 2:Go ahead. Oh, I was going to say earlier it's like, have you ever heard of the it factor Talking about like podcast entertainment? Can you describe it? It's a factor.
Speaker 1:If has an amazing presence. You just show up and once they perform, hey, you have message speech singing. Whatever you gravitate towards them, it they're impossible to ignore. Their presence is just unignorable. It's like you catch some sort of weird, or that's my explanation of it. I would call it gravitas. It's hard to ignore them. You could try to tune them out. I think even someone called ADHD OCD wouldn't even pay attention to them so it's a solid answer.
Speaker 2:But this is what I'm talking about when I'm saying mental and emotional literacy, giving vocabulary to things. I'm saying that there's five and it's not absolute, but I'm saying five skills that I'm pointing out. If you take these five learned skills, put them in yourself at the moment, activate them all, you're going to give off the aura of Uh. The five skills are one active listening. This is the ability and you'll hear a lot of what you just said in this this is the ability to truly engage in conversation with someone. This makes people feel interested and valued and thus like having you around.
Speaker 2:Number two charm, sometimes called charisma or magnetism. The ability to draw people to you, your core attraction, maybe your passion or your intelligence or something else, but the important thing is you display it with easy confidence, no arrogance. Instead, when your people are with you, they feel like you elevate them. Number three intensity the ability to bring force to your presence. Whatever you bring, you bring it hard. You don't need to dominate, but you can't be ignored. Number four generosity. You're so self-confident, so present in the moment, that you look for ways to give to others. And number five poise. It's another term that's used, sometimes mysteriously, but it's simply the ability to use nonverbal communication, posture, gesture, expression to do work for you. So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Once we start giving vocabulary to these intangible parts of ourselves, it'll give us something to hold on to and it'll allow us to use these tools much better as opposed to just you know, because right now we're living in a world like, let's say, nobody could read and write.
Speaker 2:If you wanted to learn how to read and write, you need to go to a tutor or a mentor and they can teach you, and only teach you certain parts. That's not a great way to live, but that's how we're living mentally and emotionally. We're not systemically teaching this knowledge that we have to everyone, and I'm saying we should teach it in schools the way we teach reading and math, because it's a new form of literacy. We give written literacy, we give numerical literacy. Why not add on mental and emotional literacy? And the only reason I can really see it being gatekeeped will be that the ruling class to 1% don't want us to have it, because it will make us harder to control. The reason the school system is so redundant is because it's easier to control the same person as opposed to 350 million individuals. Once we start coming individuals, it will change everything, because we won't be so easily controlled.
Speaker 1:It won't be cheaply bribed either. Oh, you want a free meal. Oh, there you go. That person's distracted Keep them happy.
Speaker 2:Keep the populace calm. You know bread and circus has been used time and time again. There's a lot of examples. You are mentally and emotionally literate. You see right through that. You see it as you know. The dog and pony show that it is and you know you're being screwed on the other end, yep.
Speaker 1:And this is why these skills are, I'm going to say, life changing.
Speaker 2:Yes absolutely, because they allow, they give you access to parts of yourself that you didn't have before. It's kind of are you familiar with the theory of multiple universes? Like there's all these different versions of you all out there, any choice you make. Well, I'm making the argument that with these tools and techniques, instead of having them out in the void, you can bring all those different versions of you right into here so you can create multiple versions of yourself. So now you have a wardrobe of selves that you can step in and out of. So whatever situation you walk into, instead of expecting the situation to change for you, you can adapt to pick the best version of you to fit that situation.
Speaker 2:It's kind of like the way we change clothes. I wouldn't wear a tuxedo to the beach unless maybe like a wedding or something. Well, why would I wear the same personality in my grandma's house that I would when I'm drinking at the bar with my Marine buddies? You know we change. Already. It's referred to commonly as code switching. We code switch in different areas.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm talking about hyper code switching, or spiritual shape shifting, where you change who you are fundamentally, mentally and emotionally, step in and out of different versions of yourself, but you have to create them first.
Speaker 2:That's where these tools and techniques are important. They allow you to create of different versions of yourself, but you have to create them first. That's where these tools and techniques are important. They allow you to create these different versions of yourselves and when you do step in and out of these different versions, the way you see the world changes. So if you have a problem that you can't solve, you could change the version of you or have a fresh set of eyes to see that problem. So now, and that's that's how I solve problems set of eyes to see that problem. So now, and that's how I solve problems. And people will literally bring problems to me because I solve them so fast, because I'll just look at a problem and I'll just click, click, click, click and just start shifting, and when I do, I'll see different responses, different stimuli or whatever, and it'll give me different answers. So it's an advantage that I have.
Speaker 1:We're not like these one dimensional characters that are just like oversimplified. I'm evil, I don't be evil, no matter, no matter what. Yeah, try to be evil your family, your close ones. You're going to be a loner. You might even get killed. Ok, we are. We have different modes. You know, if you need to be militant and assertive, because things are chaotic, you can't be passive or calm, for calm it's not going to work. You need more assertive, commanding side. I was like everybody, chill out, as opposed to your normal personality. We need different modes. We're being human beings. We have different beings.
Speaker 1:I mean, when you're speaking in a quiet environment, of course a more calm tone is suitable, but if you're in a stadium, you definitely need to be louder because there's a lot of noise and a lot of people, okay. And if you're being, you're going to be so ignored People are going to even boo. You know what I'm going to say Come everybody. You know you have this exciting personality. You know there's an exciting side, a high energy side that you're going to need to channel. You know why. Do you think someone who speaks come and welcome everybody to the stadium. You who speak, welcome everybody to the stadium. You would be like what the heck is this? And if they get extra nasty they're gonna throw stuff. All right, especially some sports fans. They're a little crazy, okay, but uh, but, we have this energy I present, girl, I'm gonna offer you tonight's entertainment.
Speaker 1:There you go, you have more. You definitely have more attention than the speaker. Very, very meek, you know. So you could have so much examples of this. Okay, well, you know, when your spouse is crying, you have more of the supportive, soothing side. But if a guy's trying to get you with a knife, you know assertive, focused, combative side. I mean combative in the sense of, you know, defense and that's last resort. Let's just be clear about that. You know that's not going to happen most of the time, but you're not going to be. Oh, please don't stab me. He's going to shank you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, I mean, it's different ways too, because I remember watching this one video. It was like from like Thailand, singapore, somewhere in that area, and it was this dude who brought a knife up to this, who was a cop, and the cop was just mad, calm, just like, like, like shit happens every day. And then he just sat there and talked to the dude, talked to the dude, talked to the dude and ended up disarming him even though he was unarmed, and it's just. It's about how you respond and react, and we have.
Speaker 2:We aren't taught that there's multiple ways to respond and react. We're generally taught this is the way we do it, this is our way. Do it this way every time? No, when circumstances change, the situation changes, you should change along with it, and when you do, it allows you to see different avenues of approach. So does it need to be combative Sometimes? Does it need to be non-combative? It could. It depends. It's about reading the environment, and that's what I'm saying. These tools and techniques do they allow us to read those things so we can see between the lines or read the writing on the walls, where most people don't? So when you have that literacy and you're able to get more information than the average person, you can make better choices.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. I mean, look, this could go on for a while, but I think we throw so much value here. I think you know my subtle quota is already fulfilled. This could go a little longer. Anything else you want to add? Before I wrap this up, before I do a shameless plug in for you and myself, yeah, actually I did have a shameless plug.
Speaker 2:This is the book that I wrote on the subject. It's called All your Best Selves. You can get it on Amazon right now. You can read the introduction for free on Amazon. It's digital and paperback, but it's broken down into three parts.
Speaker 2:The first part is autobiographical, talking about my life in respect to the idea. The second part is talking about the idea and the science, because I didn't really talk about the science, like all the different things that support it, because there's a lot of science, research that can support what I'm saying. And the third part, to me, is the most valuable because it's where I refer to as the intangible toolbox. It has the Stanislavski system, eight exercises, the miser technique, three exercises, uta Hagen's 10 exercises and some improv. But I have all these exercises listed out and explain how we use them as actors alongside how you can use them yourself in life, because these aren't all. This is the tip of the iceberg, but I put them side by side so if you ever pick a different technique, you can see, get an idea of how to use it, because these are side by side. So there are examples there and they're all act. The whole intangible toolbox part is just actionable stuff that'll help grow and develop you as a human being.
Speaker 1:And look, I love that. Show that title of the book. Let me describe that to the ones who are just paying attention to audio. You see, it's an infinite sign. It's like an eight. It could be an eight or infinite sign. So you know all your best, like the brain is burning on top, you know or it's a heart bleeding.
Speaker 1:It's a heart bleeding, Okay. Okay, I was about to say you look like a fruit to me. I'm thinking maybe I'm hungry, but yeah, it is a bleeding heart. Let me be serious now. It's a bleeding heart. Some of you might think of food for some reason. Don't worry, I allow strange interpretations, just express them out. And he's the author, of course. Go get that book on Amazon ebook or if you want to be traditional I like to be traditional with some of the books especially I don't want to value it Get a paperback as well. It's something about paper. To scientifically prove it If you read it through, papers like the ink permeates your memory, as opposed to reading digitally, because digitally your eyes get screwy and everything started looking the same after a while Making notes too.
Speaker 2:Like highlighting making notes. That's why I like Exactly Yep.
Speaker 1:Yep, that's another yep, that's just strengthening my point, even highlighting taking side notes, sticky notes, whatever you do, whatever you do, yeah, I highlight. I like to highlight because I try to do the sticky note thing. It looked like a mess after a while. The highlight is better for me and I just do like a little book notes here and there. So that was fine. Oh, oh, what do you say before? Oh, yeah, there, there, you go right there. So go go get it.
Speaker 1:Look, it's a book, it's affordable. I don't want to hear about a book. It's affordable. I don't want to hear about the affordability excuse. I'm improving more affordable stuff because I know if you would have said in the past I was a little tone deaf promoting products, I was like triple digits, even caught triple digits. I'll take it, I'll take it. I'm not going to argue with you because that's actually true. You can easily prove that. But I'm bringing more affordable stuff. That I think would be life-changing. I could give you access to even more opportunities. I could multiply that.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, if you're, if you're into that or just you know better your social life, you know, whatever purpose you have, I'm sure it's going to be fit for it's situation by situation and you can be multiple with the situation. You know it can be a real calm, real crazy, or maybe one in between, or a strategic situation. Whatever. You don't have to use the angry person for all the situations. It's not going to work. It may work with the hyper one, if you can cut things down, maybe, but if you're calm, just like he said, the calm guy that was unarmed disarmed the person who was pissed off with the weapon, you call it de-escalation. That was an excellent example of de-escalation. If I was a professor I would get that at eight. He was at a severe disadvantage, he could have been stabbed and just mad. Calm about it. Exactly so calm is powerful, calm is powerful. That should be the takeaway. If you're thinking of something else, pay attention. But that's all I'm going to say about that. I'm going to link to his website, all the social medias as well and connect with him. All right, and you know, and I'll link to the book as well, because I don't have that, but I can easily find it based on what we provided right there. So from now, my shameless plug in like subscribe. I'm on YouTube, I'm on Rumble, I'm on Twitter, I refuse to call X and that petty deal with it, and I'm on Facebook as well, like I said.
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Speaker 1:Do I like to hear it? No, but this is what you need to hear. This is a need to hear, not what you want to hear, because a lot of things you want to hear oh, I'm great, everything's going well we always want to hear that. We condition that way. But the things we don't want to hear are normally the ones that make us grow and become better, because it's uncomfortable. It's uncomfortable. Growth is uncomfortable, period. If you're too comfortable, you're not growing, you're getting stagnant or you might. You might even decay. Okay, even worse. That's what I want to say about that. And leave a donation if you want. Uh, smallest is three dollars a month. A three strikes, you're out. One, two, three you know three's lucky number, some cultures, whatever. Or if you want to be christian, father, son, the holy spirit, okay, and then there's higher tiers if you want. But I have exclusive content for you as well, thank you.
