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Politically High-Tech
296- Terrible First, Better Later: A Podcaster's Journey with Adam Torres
From conquering fear to building a podcasting empire, Adam Torres shares his journey of recording over 6,000 interviews and how podcasting changed his life completely.
• Podcasting as a democratic medium where everyone can participate in telling their own stories
• Starting as "the world's worst podcaster" and growing through consistent practice
• The benefits of guesting on diverse podcasts to expand your content range
• How minimal equipment can still lead to audience growth
• Building sustainable systems to maintain consistency in content creation
• Evolving your approach to avoid stagnation and burn-out
• The value of subscribing to podcasting newsletters to stay current
• How podcasting is still in its early growth phase compared to platforms like YouTube
• The importance of improving your podcast artwork and presentation
Connect with Adam Torres on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/askadamtorres/ to learn more about launching your own show or exploring publishing opportunities.
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welcome everyone to politically high tech. With your host, elias, I have a newcomer. Yes, I may kind of go on a newcomer spree, but it's gonna die at some point because, you know, some of the reoccurring guests are just great. And if it was a train system, don't rely on me to run it. Trains will crash, the trains will derail. Those are trains, so don't rely on me. What oh? I want new people, new people. Nah, that shit's gonna die at some point. It's gonna die. All I could do at best is delay the end of the pool. Okay, so I could do. I have a very cheerful, happy guest here. You know me as a new yorker. You know some of us don't react kindly to that because we find that freaky as hell. I'm just speaking for a day, for a day of new yorker. Um, you know, californians are generally happier than new yorkers. I can accept that as a fact. Oh, you're gonna walk, we care, we're nice, but we got tough shells, you know.
Speaker 2:Man, I'm from the Midwest. You better chill on that, you know we got some nice don't disrespect. What's going on, man?
Speaker 1:Well, your host has turned rogue, he's gone corrupt, and I'm embracing it. No, but all seriousness, though, I mean, new Yorkers are tough, we're kind, we're just tough on the show, you know. And Midwest people I talk to people in Midwest, I talk to like them there we go.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. What are you talking about? My dad's from New York? We're good, we're good.
Speaker 1:We're good. Ok, I'll be more forceful about it. So if you want that as a feedback, that's it right here. But all right, this is more fun than I thought. I didn't expect this crap to happen Friday.
Speaker 1:Then I mean, you know, some of my episodes are clean. I think I'm going to keep this one clean. And then some of them are more, you know, explicit. All right, but this one I'm going to keep it clean. I'm going to keep it clean. I'm going to keep it happy here, okay, cause I think my explicit content is getting a little out of control. I'm shocked. I thought it was behaving, I thought it was behaving there, but now I saw my little statistics. Oh my goodness, I have more explicit content recently. So let me behave, let me clean up.
Speaker 1:But anyways, we have a guest here, very positive, upbeat guests, and Last one was a very bubbly tech woman who was actually quite smart and very young too, and she was she was living in Brooklyn by the time we recorded her Very, very, very bubbly. Some reason, I don't. I don't say that about girls, I don't know. It's probably that blatant sexism on my part. Feel free to call out chat. There you go. That's your, that's your common activity. Right there, there you go. A little common activity, but let's welcome Adam Torres, all right, and he's, he's no lightweight. To some of you he may seem like it, look like it, but no, he ain't lightweight. He got statistics to back up that he's heavyweight. Okay, he's heavyweight on his. He's still in like thousands I'll say oh, I'll say thousands of freaking interviews. I forget the exact count, probably 5,000, 6,000.
Speaker 2:Come on, man, you better respect the game over six thousand. Come on, elijah. What do you mean? I've been hitting the gym, ain't?
Speaker 1:nothing light over here, man, what you talking about, how you gonna say I'm looking light, maybe thin and trim.
Speaker 2:I've been hitting the gym, but that ain't light, don't, don't be confusing. Like thin and trim for light.
Speaker 1:Nah, man, we're gonna have a lot of fun here. Nah, man, I actually do respect the guests, listeners. If you can't tell that we're having fun here, for some reason, some people just can't tell. Let me just say that. But now let's get to the Introduce yourself. What do you want the listeners and viewers?
Speaker 2:to know about. So, first thing first, I really appreciate you bringing me on Politically High Tech. This is a lot of fun. I like the way that you, I like what you do with your guests, I like the conversations you're having, so I was excited to be given the invite to be able to come on here. And for the audience, who am I? Adam Torres. I host the Mission Matters series of shows. Got a lot of content out there, as Elias mentioned over 6,000 episodes.
Speaker 2:I've been doing this going on nine years and my main message and I just started guesting you may not know this, elias I just started guesting this year actually, so I never did that. Years I've been doing this. I didn't really even know why I should guest. I didn't have a good reason to, but I finally thought about it and as I kind of got further and further in this business like podcasting has completely changed my life. It's completely given me more than I ever thought was possible. And the reason why I'm coming on shows and I'm guesting is because my aim and my goal is simple I want to encourage other people to start their own shows and to create their own content. Now, why do I want to do that Because it's a luxury.
Speaker 2:We didn't always have this opportunity to be a part of telling our own stories or being a part of media or all these distribution channels, depending on your heritage, where you're from. I mean, in the past, our entire like histories were not, you know, old, or they were rewritten based on the people that you know were in control or, you know, had all the power. Whether, I mean, you go far enough back, it was who had this, who had the ink, who had the clay tablet, who had the like, the ability to memorize and then to spread ideas, who owned the printing presses, who owned the television channels. So this day and age that we're in, with podcasting where we can all participate, it doesn't really cost that much and it's easy, it's not too difficult, like it once was, you know, 20 years ago, when this business started editing.
Speaker 2:Everything's become so much easier with AI. So it's like, if you're listening to this and you're thinking about, should you be going that route, should you not? I'm saying 100%, you will not regret it. Like, start your show, get your message out there. Everyone's message deserves and should be heard. Or, at the very least, if your message sucks, you should at least be able to participate and play in the game. So that's what I want. That's my message here today, elias, and that's who I am.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure I agree with the message sub part.
Speaker 2:It might, it, might, it might. I'm just saying I mean it doesn't have to agree, I don't have to agree with somebody's message or ideas or whatever, but I'm just saying at least participate, like get out there and say it like it could be, and somebody might. People don't like my show. Some people are like man, I don't like that guy, he's just I don't know. They just don't like my face. It's OK. It's OK. I don't. Everybody doesn't have to, but my point is I'm in the game.
Speaker 1:Don't bring the real New York out of me. Like most people could just kick walks. I'm trying to be as nice as I can, but I almost slipped up. I almost swore two times already.
Speaker 2:That's my goal can I get Elias to slip? That's my goal, then what? No, yeah, don't get him started. You're like nah, no, no, I already have red man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, you trust me, it's going to. I'm about to just put it adult only. There you go. It's going to be less reaching YouTube especially, no, but we have fun here. Oh, look for the haters out there. Just keep on hating. You're, ironically, the fuel for the strong. You make the strong stronger. All right, that's all I'm going to say. So keep on hating. I mean, I get some hate comments. I'm like okay, you're just tough with your smartphone. By the time I take away that smartphone, your mind goes blank or you catch an anxiety attack. You're nobody. You're nobody.
Speaker 2:You're nobody, all right so, all right, that's the tamest I could go without going off the red. I heard it.
Speaker 1:I see you all righty then, but I don't think I'm gonna add for podcasting and I I started this. You have nine. I'm in. This is my fifth year wow, congratulations, hold on.
Speaker 2:That's huge congrats. Five years in is a big deal. Most people quit, like at episode 20 or whatever. You hear the like stats. People say 10 episodes, 20 episodes, whatever it is, but five years is legit man. Congratulations on that. I didn't realize it was five years. I knew you've been doing it for a while but I didn't know it was five. That's amazing. It was five and guesting.
Speaker 1:I started that, I would say, because I rarely and guesting. I started that, I would say, because I rarely did guesting. I would say it's two years, but it's very rare that I've been guesting, because a lot of well, this is the thing. He'll be the light, I'll be the dark. Some of your podcasts actually suck and you don't know how to pitch. No, you don't. That's why I've rejected you.
Speaker 1:You just want me to come and talk about music. You want you. You just want me to come and talk about music. You want my chunky butt talk about weight loss. Are you kidding me? You want to. You want to show my credibility that quick.
Speaker 1:No, I'm being honest because, no, my singing will scare the crap out of you. No, pete, no, just I already told you what I'm good at. What I'm willing to talk about is a lot of topics. Don't pick music. Don't pick fitness. Well, for some reason I can knock somebody out, but that's strength, right there. But in terms of being healthy and something I'm not. I am not the model citizen for health. Okay, let's just be honest. But all right, this is going. This is going out of rails around talking about me a little bit already, about what you should do.
Speaker 1:This is for future podcast hosts, right here. Yeah, yeah, be relevant, be brief and don't just be a general general, because I ask questions. I ask a lot of questions and I am a difficult guest for a reason because I want to make sure I am talk to the right people in the right audiences. Right made that mistake several times already, especially in the beginning. I said you know what Three strikes? That's it. I got to change the way I do things and some podcasts I'm never going back to because the host is sloppy, unorganized and all that. You know. I'm not telling you don't be discouraged, but I'm telling you take this as a lesson, know what you're talking about. Be relevant. Don't just go all over the place. This is not. You know, this is not some happy-go-lucky thing, unless it's your personal life or something like that but me.
Speaker 1:I focus on politics yeah, I focus on tech, I focus on development, which in this case it means anything that could benefit humanity in a positive you know way, and that could be spirituality, financially, what? Legally? It doesn't always have to be hell for things like that, but I do include that as well, and I have a guest talk about it, not me, okay, I always play like the devil's advocate or try to twist things around, so for them to correct me to slam me down, but that, that, but I don't know I'll say on your end.
Speaker 2:So for everybody that's listening, I'll tell you I'm the complete opposite of Elias. So meaning I just want you to get in the game, because I'll put it this way, and so you know a little bit more about my backstory. Elias, you want to talk about the world's worst podcaster? You're looking at him, man. I was let me tell you something my first show. I was so scared to do my first show that I didn't even use my real name. I was that scared I did over 15 before I would get in front of a camera because you put on a cameraman. I went blank. What's my name? I couldn't even say Adam Torres, like I forget my name. So if you're listening to this and you are terrible, I want you to know that even if you are terrible, you could get better. Like the game is.
Speaker 2:The game to me was like in the beginning, and one of the reasons I've done so many interviews is because I started out so bad. I had this. I was talking to somebody the other day and I'm like man, I've done over 6,000 interviews but I don't have Joe Rogan numbers. I mean, I got numbers now, but they're not Joe Rogan numbers. So you could either argue that you know I'm the world's worst podcaster because I don't have Joe Rogan numbers, or to me I look at it like free throws, layups, jump shots, taking three pointers, like it really is.
Speaker 2:And this is where people miss it sometimes. Not saying you said this, but I'm just saying in general. This is where people miss it is that that concept of being an apprentice and having an apprenticeship and spending time and working on your craft for years. Sometimes people think the podcasting side is like well, anybody, you know, mike's cheap, the software's cheap, all of that, so you just go do it and whatever. That's one way to approach it, and maybe people have approached other things in their lives this way. But if you start, even in your horrible, but you want to get better, you can get better Like. You can get better. Like some people probably think I'm still horrible, whatever, but you can get better over time. This year I'll do between 1,500 and 2,000 interviews this year alone and so my audience continues to grow and I continue to challenge myself to get better because I know still, in the big scheme of things, I'm a little baby aunt compared to the people that have been in the business for 20 years or going on 30 years like entertainers, like a Joe Rogan I mean, he was a comedian before podcasting for all that. So what does? He? Got like a 30 year career already, entertainment, like for someone to compare themselves to them because of his show. Sure, whatever, I don't care, like it, don't like it, doesn't matter to me, but to respect him and understand his craft as an entertainer for decades.
Speaker 2:So if someone's watching this and they're thinking like no, elias has a fancy show and I don't know if I could do what he does or adam, maybe he could do something I can't do, I'm just throwing it out there like if you want to get better, you could start real, real bad. Matter of fact, elias, I don't even think you could call my first show a show. I had one question. I called it the gratitude show and I just asked people what are you grateful for? You could have called that show, recorded conversations with Adam. I didn't know what an intro was, I didn't know what an outro was, I didn't even edit, I just like recorded and uploaded. And it's funny because maybe starting out so terrible, I gained an audience of people by being authentic and saying I didn't know what I was doing, I wasn't trying to front like I was this guy that oh knows this or this media mogul or you know taking these pictures or whatever. I was like I don't know what I'm doing, but listen in and tell me how to get better.
Speaker 2:And I remember the early days man people, my friends would be like Adam, I think you need to edit the audio difference. It sounds a little choppy. They didn't know I wasn't editing right Nothing, I was just uploading. And they're like. And I was like, oh really, okay, I'm going to edit the next episode better. You listen to it, text me if it sounds off. They'd be texting me week after week. I'm just getting downloads. I don't know I wasn't editing anything. We're talking the early days.
Speaker 2:So I'm not saying you're wrong, elias, get your shit together. If you are a podcast host and you're taking this seriously, for sure. But if it's just because you're new and you don't have skills and you're trying to get better, don't worry, you can get better. Just keep on shooting those layups, keep shooting those free throws. You'll get better. You'll get better, you'll find your voice. And I'll leave with one last quote, kind of here and this was from Howard Stern, by the way, because I'm not again. I don't think I'm a great. I just been doing this a while and I'm trying to get better.
Speaker 2:But when I think about the greats, I think of somebody like a said in one of his books and I forget which one, because I've read them all but he said in one of his books, in one of his conversations he says that one of the he didn't use the word blessings, he said benefits or something like that, but I like to use the word blessings in this case. But one of his blessings really was that when he was in those smaller stations and he was in those smaller markets, he was working on his craft so that his voice would be, in his opinion, would be somebody that's worth listening to, and so that's a real. That was when I read that. That was like a mind trip. It was like, wow, so I need to be working on myself to become somebody that's worth listening to. And when I accomplished that, and as I accomplished that, the audience will come and it'll get bigger, and that was his experience.
Speaker 1:You know, you actually do bring in some valuable points. Okay, I'm stop being such an asshole for a second, but uh, no, but like I said, both, both points do bring validity start out for sure, feel free to experiment.
Speaker 1:I mean, I do encourage experiment. That's what I did when I first started. Yeah, I listen, I was inconsistent. I did have an intro and all that, but I was inconsistent. Sometimes I skipped tech, sometimes I skipped politics. Sometimes it was so inconsistent you could tell I was just figuring things out. My ums were long as hell. I was like um, it wasn't just um, it was just um. And I used to say I mean a lot. I said why the hell do I say? I was so annoyed with myself when I listened to it. I said, oh, I felt so much courage. I said, oh God, it was so embarrassing, it's so hard listening to yourself.
Speaker 1:But I became. I became my own critique. I started proving. Based on that, I started asking other people and I even asked my mom mom's on. She's loving and caring, but she's also honest. He said stop umming, stop saying I mean a lot great, and I tell the audience straight up as brutal as I am sometimes, give me feedback, give me specific feedback. I'm great because, or uh, or my podcast suck because not just you're great or you suck.
Speaker 1:That doesn't help, just add some thought into it. That's why I've been saying to the audience look, feel free, I definitely want to grow. I'm sure there's areas I could grow in. I'm not that fancy, believe it or not. I'm like mid-tier in terms of setup. I just got like a simple, nice setup. I just clean this thing up. This is a living room I'm going to expose myself here. This is a live room transferred to a mini podcast studio. That's awesome. That's what I do really, because I'm kind of a cheapo, so I'm not going to spend thousands of dollars for soundproof walls and all that. I have more like this headphone and this set up. That's awesome.
Speaker 2:And you know what's funny. I want to stick on that point for a moment, though, for everybody, because if you're just starting out, I still think elias's setup is fancy because he's got headphones and this, and that my first, first show and that we built an audience for mind you, I had the old school, not even the airpods, because I don't even think airpods were out around then. If they were, I didn't have them. But, um, I had the old like wired headphones that came with the iphone. I think I was on an iPhone four, maybe six back then, who knows and I was recording off of, like a tape recording app no video, nothing, no, nothing, literal tape recording app, zero tech, off of my phone and still record it. And let me give you a little bit of insight here, because I don't know if you follow this or not, elias, but one of the big growing markets in podcasting are going to be your areas, in your markets, with dumb phones, like in Africa or India or places where, let's say, the phone costs $20 or $40 versus an iPhone over here, hundreds of dollars, or a Samsung or something like that, and they have their own app stores that they're using. So now, when you think about that that's hundreds of millions of potential, even listeners. So now, when you think about that, that's hundreds of millions of potential listeners. And when you think about them joining the game, and now what becomes interesting for the whole industry as a whole. Now, if you think about YouTube, youtube has over 150 million YouTube channels. Podcasting only has maybe 4 million give or take. So you think about that. There's a whole blue ocean of podcasts that can be created over there. And for those like you, elias, who've been doing this for five years, and other individuals that are getting in the game now, what happens when there's 10 million podcasts, then 50 million, then 100 million, then 150 million podcasts Podcasts like yours, elias, that started way back when they're gonna continue to grow like years of lives. That started way back when they're going to continue to grow. There's going to be more eyeballs for them, or more ears, whatever, more ear canals for them, I don't know. There's going to be more market for it, which is going to make so that rising. It's going to help all of our shows over time, so that becomes interesting. So when I say your shows fancy, I wasn't joking like that can be considered fancy, like now and just the context for everybody listening. Even today, right now I'm traveling a bit, so I'm in.
Speaker 2:I'm in one of those like shared co-work spaces. I got a professional studio. I used to. We got a.
Speaker 2:Instead do in-studio interviews. I do every different type of interview you can think of. I got overhead, whatever, whatever doesn't matter. The craziest place I'd done an interview and recently I was in a truck was like man, they've been waiting to go on this show. My travel plans changed a little bit and I couldn't, like I couldn't get to the studio in time. I pulled over. I did an interview in my car, in a truck stop, and I had and I did it on some AirPods, so like, and a recording app, like. So the main thing to me is like, get the content done, like, no excuses, get the content recorded, get it distributed. Not your best episode ever Great, I do that once a day, no problem. I have a bad episode, probably once a day that I don't feel like quite satisfied with, but it's okay. It's just like you're playing basketball you missed a shot, what? You're not taking more shots? All right, you got to get in the game, take some shots, you're going to get better, but like you're going to miss some shots too, it's OK.
Speaker 1:No, this is actually great stuff. And me, I'm not as comfortable recording. See, that'll be my weakness right there. I got to set up my smartphone. Just at least do that with some. Oh, my AirPods are bad. I, it's bad for me. So if I want to do that, I'm going to. I'm going to want to do that at some point. So she wants to start doing my guess-a-thon arc when I do more guessing than hosting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm definitely going to do that, but gotta get in the game. Man Gotta get in the game.
Speaker 1:I mean, I'm just, I'm a small guess. I've been doing two years Very sporadic. I only pop like probably twice a year as a guest or something, but this year Only twice a year.
Speaker 2:You better get on that A last part timer on your guest and you better go give some love to those other podcast hosts. Man, you're an OG, you're five years in. You're an OG. Man, you got to go spread the love.
Speaker 2:Come on, man, I didn't. By the way, I'm over here talking smack about stuff that I didn't know and I just started doing it. But but after I started doing it, just to be honest, like all joking aside, well, after I started doing it, I did I did change my perception a little bit. In the beginning it was only to like reach different audiences and to try to inspire them, hopefully to start their own shows, cause I want them to participate, like that's where my heart's at. But the unexpected win that I didn't I wasn't thinking about it was that some hosts were inspired to up their game because I'd been doing it for so long and maybe some of the things I've done and yourself, the fact that you've been in it for five years.
Speaker 2:When you go on that show, maybe it's a newer show, maybe whatever, who knows Just the respect of them getting to talk to somebody that's been in the business for five years. They may not have that access. So that's me busting you a little bit. Don't be greedy man, come on, you could do more than two guests in a year. Come on, man, get in it.
Speaker 2:Hey, listen, no, no no, he ain't do that.
Speaker 1:First of all, they have to be worthy. Okay, they have to be worthy.
Speaker 2:Okay, they have to be freaking worthy again I get pitches that are just since you already swear, you already opened the.
Speaker 1:I did. I opened it. Yeah, you did. There's been ass, okay, and I have just denied them right away. And nope, I said, if you study me carefully, okay, if you see, well, that's the. I don't show my full body, but but if you see me, you will know that I'm telling the truth. I said don't put me no gym podcast, don't put me no music podcast. You can put me in politics, you can put me some random comedy stuff. Some people say I'm a knack for comedy, just the way I talk.
Speaker 2:I get people laughing right away, I don't even try. I say, man, that'd be fun.
Speaker 1:Cause that was criticizing music. I'll criticize the music, no that music is ass, that's for ADHD.
Speaker 2:I'll go. I was, I was on, I was in the studio the other day. I have zero musical talent ever. This guy had a low like a like a plastic, like pig, called it the pigstrum, and I was in there like it was funny.
Speaker 1:it's like you, but you like music you listen to music, right, you listen to music. There you go. Then that's the conversation, that's how you connect with that show and that guest.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm such a critic you get that you're gonna have to want a villain, you're gonna have to want to go, because that's okay though, but and they might but that's how you approach that interview and the other one that you're talking about I'm going on there with, like a fitness type show. You approach it on the man. I ain't about that fitness, or whatever, your whatever your view is.
Speaker 2:Whatever you're I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, but it becomes fun and funny content, like the other day I went on a show it was. It was kind of like more geared towards mental health and trauma, like in trauma that people experience, and I shared this story that I don't get to share often. So I like these variety of shows because sometimes you get to share stories that people don't care about on your show. Some of my normal business shows are going to be, or my shows are going to be, business money like a bunch of like. Kind of like I wear a suit and tie normally when I'm on my show, when I'm hosting the show.
Speaker 2:I should say, but on this, on this show, they were on to know like what was the weird stuff like that you experienced growing up in Detroit, like in the eighties and nineties and whatever. And I'm like, and I had some stories I hadn't thought about. Man, I'm telling you like 10, 15 years. I'll share one super quick, which is when I was growing up there was this thing called devil's night and it was before Halloween and that's when they would like all the burnt down homes in Detroit which they don't exist anymore. They've been cleared out, it's all good, but back then they'd be on fire. So you would like be watching the news while like to be literally a hundred houses that were burning and I was like I thought that was normal until I grew up and I was in college and I started traveling and nobody knew what the hell I was talking about, about devil's night, and I was like, wait a minute, that was only like a Detroit, maybe Chicago thing or something like that. Other people didn't do that. They're like no, that's crazy. I could have never shared that content if I was staying in my comfort zone and just going on business shows and it's cool. And now my audience like the ones that really dig and they're like oh, what is this? They get a side of me that they would have never even known. Like they could have never even. Like it would have never been appropriate for me to share that story on a normal mission matters. Let's say, business show, like how's that going to come up? It's just not going to come up. So that's where I say, man, it's kind of fun sometimes to go on a random show.
Speaker 2:Now, in retrospect, I would have never said that in the beginning. To be honest, I would have never said that in the beginning. To be honest, I would have never said that I'm like. Now I'm like all right, what are we doing, let's go. And it's made me a better host, made me a better. I feel it's made me a better host because now my um, my, my bandwidth in the type of stories I'm even willing to share, is kind of expanded, because normally for my particular show I don't have too many ease or explicits on when I'm hosting Um, and that hasn't changed because of guesting. But what it has allowed me to do is like kind of tap into some other things while I'm, while I'm talking, to bring out other stories that I maybe wouldn't have if I hadn't had those other experiences. I think it's loosened me up a little bit. Some of my sometimes I could be a little stiff. I feel like it's loosened me a little bit.
Speaker 1:I agree with that. That's why I do all my thing in this podcast, because you're going to get it right here. Yes, I am a little greedy and I'm happy to be a little greedy. You got to really lure me out. Yes, you got to lure me out. You need a great, very good bait, and a few of them have given me that great bait. That's okay, I'm going to be in there. I went loose, very loose, I mean too loose, to the point that I said, oh my god. Some people said, wow, I actually like it more. Some people said what is wrong with you? Either way, I go with I do agree Like mental health podcast.
Speaker 1:I've been to One that kind of talked about yeah, it was one that was mental health. Okay, I could share about that Because I used to suffer from depression. Alright, so that, see, I already talked about that Like numerous, like several times, real brief. A lot of my family died when I was young. I was at what? All right, so that, and see, I already talked about that like numerous, like several times, real brief. A lot of my family died when I was young.
Speaker 1:I was like what's the point of living? I'm not going to die next, all this craziness. But I just say look, listen, turn me to a first. I used to be in a sobbing mess. I used to think twist it to negative high. I said, well, you're high. Well, your mind is as high as the sky. Leave me the F of all. I used to just come with some comebacks like that, you know, just because I was in my, you know, I was in a not so great headspace for a while, but the reason I overcame is because I got sick and tired of being sick and tired and that's worked for some people.
Speaker 2:And that part came, that's worked for some people and that that part. That's awesome, man. That's a great story to share. That gives people hope. I feel like too. You know that are going through it. That's wonderful and about podcasting people.
Speaker 1:I want to say this oh, stagnation will be your enemy. Okay, that's all I'm going to say. I mean real talk Stagnation will be your enemy. Change evolve.
Speaker 2:What's the number one way to grow, in your end Like what do you feel For me? I'm going to throw it out there. I just think you got to do it more. Like to me, that's it. But I'm not like. Some people are, you know, book smart. They just can go in there. They're like, oh, they're real analytical. You mentioned listening to yourself and listening to show man. Man, I don't know if I've ever listened to a full episode of mine. Like I can't stand to hear my voice. That ain't happening. Like last thing I'm going to do is listen to an episode. That's like cringe for me. Well, how do you suggest? How do people like stay not being stagnated or not falling into stagnation? What's your tip?
Speaker 1:Oh, I got a heck of a lot. But if I want to say, subscribe to podcasting related newsletters, they'll give you tips of what's going on about demographics, what tech you should get or proposed ideas. So if you want to evolve, I would say I would say that's enough. I don't only talk about this a lot, but I've subscribed to several and now you know that's a reminder. I'm gonna put that as show notes for the ones I subscribe to.
Speaker 2:That's great. That's great content. I wouldn't know, and that's why I asked the question, because some people learn different Like for me. I'm not really subscribed to too many. Maybe I should, though, so I can get my headlines in at least, but I just like recording, so that's where I kind of get into it. That makes a lot of sense, especially if someone's analytical like if they want to get into the weeds, and like some people have to know things, some people have to feel things, some people are a combination you know a bunch of different right brain, left brain, whatever but that's cool. What's your favorite one? You got a favorite Like. If I'm going to go subscribe to one, give them a free plug. You Give him a free plug. You got a favorite one.
Speaker 1:It's not all good, but I'm going to look for one right now because I got, so that's great.
Speaker 2:Let me see Podcast newsletter, because I'm subscribed I just had yeah and different networks and to like the models and seeing what people are doing out there. I think that's pretty cool and that matches what you're saying, but I never really thought about that. I don't really subscribe to too many of them, yeah.
Speaker 1:I would say Buzzsprout is the one that comes to mind. Oh yeah, you see, yeah, buzzsprout, because this one my issue used to be for the first two years of it, it was my artwork. My podcast artwork was ass and I changed that. So that's a growth example.
Speaker 2:That's a great example.
Speaker 1:My artwork used to look like it was going to some illegal club somewhere in a big city and then, if you don't know what you're doing, you're gonna get you in trouble. Yeah, just said shot killed or in sexually violated. You know the word. I ain't gonna say it. All right, so it so that that that was artwork.
Speaker 2:Come on, man.
Speaker 1:I mean people. People are biased, people want a good artwork and I paid money, and I did pay someone money for this, so I'm going to pay so I can have some ownership to it, because instead of your free artwork, you don't got ownership to it, believe it or not. So they changed the free you are through me. I own this. I own this purple thing like a silhouette of the un building with mb flagpoles and a little digitized design in the background. It's purple because I don't like both democrats and republicans. I'm a purple, I'm independent, so that's why that color popular, even though my personal favorite color is red. I guess I'm a republican because of that.
Speaker 1:Well, you're stupid. That's what I'm gonna say. Um, even I do agree republicans on certain points of views, but we ain't gonna talk about that. Um, so, but this is, but this, this is, uh, you know, example of growth right here, that people start clicking on it more and it actually looks nice and I really love this. I've been sticking to this um artwork ever since, ever since my, my, yeah, third season, yeah, third season, searching, yeah, first two. It was just, oh, my god, I just wanted something free and I wanted to be cheap. I wanted to be cheap as hell about it, so I started saying, okay, I started getting some money here, elias, listen, I'm a fiscal conservative exposed I'm a fiscal conservative.
Speaker 2:I knew it, I was waiting for that.
Speaker 1:I'm like I'm politically liberal but fiscally conservative yeah, I'm gonna just spend money like a drunken sailor, somebody I know. Uh, if I'm gonna spend money, it has to be worth in the long term. For me, yeah, it can't, just you know, and for everybody that's listening to this.
Speaker 2:Uh yeah, your podcast covering your graphics is worth it spending money on that because, ultimately, like it. The way I like to explain it is when you're, when somebody's going through your pot, your um, your, your apple app, or the um, the apple podcast app, or maybe the spotify app or whatever it is like that thumbnail, the more clickable it is, the more likely somebody's going to stumble upon your show and I'll even, I, even, I'll even go a step further and talk about like we create all kinds of different merch and stuff like that. I'm not quite as fiscally conservative when it comes to promo for the show Elias, so I'll say, like I'll show you an example. One of the things we created is poker chips with it with the um, and I'm the for those that are listening, watching in the car. Poker chips with it with um and I'm for those that are listening, watching in the car. You don't, you can't see the video, so I'll just tell you.
Speaker 2:I held up a poker chip and it has our podcast cover on and these are the real ones. These are like clay, they're like a buck, a piece, and I hand out thousands of these throughout the years and they're all around the world and it's fun. But I'm trying to give people, like I want people to see and to feel, as much a connection to the show as possible. But you got to have a good graphics. I like your new graphic. I didn't see the old one, by the way, so I don't know what you had on there, but this one does not. This one looks professional and good. The old one I'm cracking up because you said it was like an old club flyer. I'm like, okay, what'd you have, man?
Speaker 1:And I even changed it to outer space thing at one point. I was just like it's an expert, I was really experimenting. You know, try to be maybe a fiscally conservative, yeah, you know. So those are those are my things, right there. Uh, yeah, your host is being exposed, but you know what I don't care this is, you know, I would eventually, this will eventually come out one way or another. Am I gonna just randomly say oh yeah, I'm cheap. I mean, how I'm gonna start coming, please, I'm cheap. I mean, how am I going to start a comic?
Speaker 2:book page. If I'm cheap, you might. I don't know you might. It just depends on what the conversation would be.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I feel like somebody could pull that out of you.
Speaker 2:You said now it comes to food.
Speaker 1:All right, that one that's different. That's a health investment which I'm turning my life around slowly but surely.
Speaker 2:That's why you need to go on one of those podcasts. That's what I'm talking about. Get on those health podcasts, so you can start battling with them.
Speaker 1:I'd rather have a shotgun pointed at them so they can just shut up and leave me alone. All right, I'm not going to be doing that, not anytime soon, unless I'm so rich that I know I could physically beat them up. Then I'll be on their show. So they disrespect me. I could create content by hangling, dangling the guy over here we go villain dark content. Come on, you people want it. Come on, you sickles, my dark audience. You know you want that, you want that content nah bud, nah bud, I'll do it at some point.
Speaker 1:Tbd. Okay, that's the best answer I could give you. All right, I've been asking a lot of questions. You've been distracting me. You see this, I'm sorry, dude, Throw me.
Speaker 2:What is that? Throw me in that tech.
Speaker 1:whatever you said, it was no no, look at that Disrespectful, whatever that is.
Speaker 2:I forgot the name. I deserve it. My bad, my bad.
Speaker 1:Okay, only question I'm going to ask, but you're right, so you probably touched on a little bit. Um, sorry, the more positive one, and then I'll get to the more. How you, how you. You know, sometimes podcasting is tough. It's not always going to be sunshines and rainbows, it's going to be dark. You're not going to of time, you know. Let me start with that one. What keeps you going when things don't go your way or you don't feel it? You know they keep doing because, come on doing over 6 000 interviews. It's no small feat, that's beyond man.
Speaker 2:I'm a systems person. So I just make sure that my my calendar is loaded with um and and over over the time. So you know we started and we're not. We're not a huge company, we're not. Like you know, I heart radio 4 000 plus people, but we're over 35 and we've been working real hard and, you know, building.
Speaker 2:So there's a lot of people depending on me getting on here and doing and doing what I do to drive traffic, to drive revenue, to drive attention, like all those things. So that so just by definition, what started as a lot of fun, it does become work. It is work, especially depending on how big and how far you want to go with this. It is a business. If you want it to be a business, it can be a hobby too. That's all good, nothing wrong for the hobbyists out there. But if you want it to be a business, it's all about systems. So I tell you, when I wake up in the morning, I have all the episodes, all of the interviews I have to do or the shows I'm going to. They're already on my calendar. Like it's more. It's more trouble and more work for me to cancel all those and to reschedule them and to have my team do that, then to just go ahead and do the interviews. So really it's about showing up. It's just about showing up every single day. You can have bad days, you can have bad days, so you can have bad interviews, you can have bad moments. But if you always have another, another, if you always have another interview to look forward to or coming up, it keeps you in the game. Mentally it's like ah, you might end the interview and you're like dang, I didn't really like, I didn't connect with the guest, I didn't have a good. It just didn't feel like it could have been, I could have did better. If I sit back you know beating myself up about that then that's not going to feel good, it's going to compound the negative feelings. If I got another interview coming up real soon after that, then it's like all right, game on, I'm going to do better on this one. And so once you, if you start thinking of it more like a marathon versus a sprint, then you're good, you're good.
Speaker 2:And if you and then on the other side of things and I know this isn't everybody else's experience, but you know, when I was growing up, I did physical labor Like I was. You know you name it. I mean as a teenager, you know demolition, I was in the trades, really as a teenager, you know, painting, whatever, make extra money growing up as a teenager and I think about like that versus like what it feels like to record a podcast episode, and I'm like man no offense to anybody in the trades, man, I respect your work, I respect what you're doing, but for me that shit was hard, like I couldn't swing a hammer that well and I wasn't that talented at it. I was okay, but it took more work, more effort for me. If that's your excellence, great, it just wasn't my excellence. So when I think about, like some of the other things I could be doing, man, I'm so grateful to be behind a podcast, mike, you would not believe it, elias. It's just I'm so grateful to be able to do that. And then, since I do believe that God has me where he wants me and walking in my sphere of excellence, it really is just a privilege and a blessing to be able to do this and to be able to do this profession. So when I do get down and I do have that moment of like, oh, I'll tell you in the early days of life, no joke.
Speaker 2:So on average I did 70 interviews per week. That was the early days. My record is 91 interviews in a week. That's when I was just learning and I was just getting going and I was just learning the business.
Speaker 2:So I threw myself like in, in and the end of those days, man, I would be curled and like literally on my bed in the fetal position, curled up with a bag of ice on my head, because I was in so much pain from from talking so much. Like that's 15 hours straight of talking with maybe a minute or two in between of a break and trying to be full energy. The whole 15 hours, like that's the gasethomy of trying to be a podcaster. Like that was like true pressure on your brain to like so I'm physically changing myself. So did I feel like doing it then? Nope, did I feel it, man? Monday I was like I got to go do some interviews. I'm like, oh man, you know, first thing I'm like, but then once I, you know, once I got in the mode, had my coffee and I'm like, man, this is amazing, I get to start my Monday morning talking with an amazing guest. What a blessing. I said a prayer and I kept it going.
Speaker 1:All right, big tick away. Be a cycle to succeed.
Speaker 2:No, oh no. Do as I say, not as I do. Nobody else should do anything I just talked about. Let's say that, by the way. Do as I do. That's a true blessing, it's a calling for me. It's different. I do not recommend any other podcast to do anything that I just said. You do your couple episodes. If you do a daily show, that's insane. Alone that's 300 plus episodes a year. That's insane. That's a tremendous amount of content and that's 300 episodes. So I'm not like I don't recommend anybody do that either. Do a weekly one and you're good.
Speaker 1:So I'm not like I don't recommend anybody do that either.
Speaker 2:Do a weekly one and you're good, no Well.
Speaker 1:I'm in the middle.
Speaker 2:I do three episodes per week.
Speaker 1:You know, I and this is one man one man, one man machine, Just do it all.
Speaker 2:Thank you for your service, elias.
Speaker 1:Thank you for your service, man, because that's not easy.
Speaker 2:And you're five years in, man, that's that's. That's amazing.
Speaker 1:Thanks to ai it's been more manageable. Thanks to ai it's cut my editing time by a half. Used to take me six hours to do one. That's been cut down to three, so I I would say for one episode.
Speaker 1:So I will say that's amazing been a great blessing and I and I learned with that. So that's just, and you know what? Just say, just to get back to. You already answered how podcasts change your life. You already answered that for me, unless you want to go on Before I continue.
Speaker 1:I went to this podcast. This was very interesting. You told me he won. He is a guy from Nigeria, which was very interesting, and I've listened to his contest. Okay, you got something good here. I'm interested Because I got to talk about the technical in the background and that was a bit of a challenge for me Because he threw in the one term I forgot about.
Speaker 1:I was like, can you repeat that again? And they had to talk in podcast technical terms and even get behind the scenes and dig into the personal stuff, which I was uncomfortable because I'm not used to talking about it. Great host, by the way. Great host. I just hope his tech situation improves though, because it'll be a shame for that. It doesn't go down. You know it's not his podcast show done just because of that, but I think he's being resilient, which is good. Good for him on that. Check. Check out my podcast story. That's another good show because it it gets more behind the scenes about how this podcast is being done and about why we talk about this content, so that one was different.
Speaker 1:Now, when I agree to right away, I said, ok, this is, this is. This is just like you say increase your bandwidth, ban your repertoire of talking points or range, or whatever you want to call it, and that I had a. I really had to just think, for I didn't really think because I wasn't used to talk about myself and the behind the scenes, what I do. It's a wow, it's a list. I know I'm going to hit 300 by the time this season. I don't. I don't even do this weekly. There's times I take big breaks of all that Because it is intense. It is intense, but I love doing it. I think my love keeps me alive.
Speaker 1:And systems too. Just like you said, I do have a system, but I have an evolving system, not a rigid one. An evolving system matters. An adaptable system, a nimble system. What people do? Shenenanigans out of nowhere that could just on the fly. You need an adaptable, resilient system, because you just have a very rigid system.
Speaker 1:Something happens. Then you don't really recover it and, uh, I don't know, you don't have a good system. Yeah, have a good system. You know that's a, that's a. You know desperate pot match plugin right there. They have a workflow for you. That's a desperate pot match plug-in right there. They have a workflow for you, especially for the host. I would say it's a good tool. It's a good tool I'm using myself.
Speaker 1:I also got my own system for scheduling. I even got backup plans. I even got backup systems in case things go haywire. Okay, boom, you gotta be ready, you gotta. Sometimes it's like I used to watch Big Brother. I know cringe for and just be prepared. Just be prepared was when the unexpected comes, because things are going to happen. You know you could plan, you have plan a. You know expectation versus reality means you know I'm talking about their expectations everything look perfect. Reality is more of a mess. Yeah, uh, yeah, you got. I would say that that's also, um, very, very important. Don't, don't be in love or married to your expectations, so people will. People will disappoint people, that's true, that's true. So, and I even disappoint myself sometimes, so that that you know that's something to keep in mind. Just keep going, make some adjustments take it as a learning course.
Speaker 2:Some more episodes, that's it. That's it. Maybe, of course, some more episodes you forget. You forget about it. Get 5, 10, 20, whatever, however many you got to do. Just recourse. Some more episodes, you'll be good. That's what I say.
Speaker 1:This has been. This is great, all right, so let's do some shameless plugins right now.
Speaker 2:Where can people find? Well, I want to connect with me. You just go to Instagram. Ask Adam Torres on Instagram. Super easy. I got a link tree on there, on the bio that you can see. You'll find more content than you ever wanted to see of me in your life. If you go on that. Link trees, google, whatever, it's all good, but just Instagram. Ask Adam Torres If you're out there and you want to launch a show. Got questions, you got. We do a bunch of publishing too. We published over 400 authors, so you're an author out there, anything like that. I mean, shoot me a dm, um, but definitely just connect. Ask adam torres on instagram. Love to see what you're working on oh, yep and all.
Speaker 1:I want to share his main website, instagram, first. All the other stuff is going to be later, so many links. Yeah, it's all good, you know what bud Once I get your link tree. I'm lazy, I'm just going to put that.
Speaker 2:That's awesome. That's what I would do there you go.
Speaker 1:You see, you got to work smart not hard.
Speaker 2:That's the system. Yeah, you do.
Speaker 1:Work smart, not hard. That's that's what I, that's what I go by. Um, I used to be a work. I used to be a bit of a workaholic. I think that I think that's why I started getting a bit big, because I'm telling this is self-snitching people, because I work too smart without moving a lot. So I think, because physical workout no, no pain, no gain. Work smart when it comes to other things, but I think physical workout um no pain, no gain gain, work smart when it comes to other things, but I think physical workout, no pain, no gain.
Speaker 1:Yeah, go through hell, make hell for yourself, I don't know, or make it enjoyable, whatever works Me. I just got to be stimulated to different scenes, different environments, because I can walk for a long mile, which I'm shocked. I can still do that, despite being a couch for tails sometimes. Hey, hey, I'm, you know. I just look. This is why I don't go on fitness podcast people. I'm not. Now you know. Now you know, may I tell, I become so beefy that I could just bully the host. That's it. That's funny, but that's that's the only way I'm gonna agree to do that. Um, yes, I already said I'm not the model of morality either. I'm not the more. No, I'm not that. Um, I do.
Speaker 1:Shameless plugins like this is not charity work people. Okay, I want to share his website as well, even though he ain't promoting this much. I'll do that. I will do that. Um, whatever and whatever else he got. Once I find that link tree, though that kind of changes a little bit. But if I don't, it's just gonna see the instagram, everything just listed um, there. But if I'm gonna extra lazy, I'll just put this website in the Instagram. You'll see. I don't know you figure it out. That's all I can say. Anything else you want to add Any other shameless?
Speaker 2:questions, man, weren't you going to ask me? You had some tech questions.
Speaker 1:you said what were those?
Speaker 2:tech that you said you had some. Oh, I'm calling the host out.
Speaker 1:No man, I'm messing with you I was just.
Speaker 2:What was it called, though I feel so bad that I don't remember what it's called. You call what's it it's when you're part of your show. What's it called?
Speaker 1:no, I'm just putting you the tech bucket.
Speaker 2:That's what it is that's what it was the tech bucket. Okay, I was like what's the?
Speaker 1:I like that term man the tech I'm good.
Speaker 2:I just like the tech bucket. I'm like it's all good. I just wanted to remember what bucket I was in. I'm in.
Speaker 1:You're in the tech bucket. This is definitely more. This is all you know. This is tech or this is tech oriented. But I could easily put this even in development too, because this is more like improvement stuff. I already got those. I got too many people there already Put me in the tech bucket and for everybody listening.
Speaker 2:I just want, I hope that out of this, out of this podcast, you've been you. You now, if you wanted to launch a show but you were kind of on the sidelines and you're like it's too hard, I'm scared, whatever, you're in good company. That's exactly how I started. But if you, uh, if you try, if you, you know, put out an episode, put out a second episode, you'll get better, it will happen over time. It's like it's a sport. So if you start thinking about it like a sport and then it, then it doesn't become so scary. You can't be great at any sport without getting in your reps or without getting your practice. So think of podcasting. The exact same way. It's a sport. So if you think of it as sport, there's no, there's no losses here too, because you got infinite tries. There's no. But only person keeping score is, and the only thing keeping score is between your ears. That's it. Those inches between your ears is all that's keeping a score. Because as long as you're walking, as long as you're living, as long as you know, can, can speak, you can put on another episode If you're. So, get out there, get in the game, start a show, put out some episodes.
Speaker 2:If you're a pro already and you're just and you're thinking about, like you know, wanting to take your, your, your content to the next level, then I challenge you Like maybe you got some things. Look at our funnel, look at how I'm operating and I'm not the biggest, but you know we're working hard, we're getting bigger. Look at how people that are much larger than me look at what they're doing, learn that's what I do. I look at what other people are doing as well to learn. And even look to people that are just getting started, because some of the best ideas come from people that start doing things and innovating because they don't know the wrong things to do. They're just out there trying and they're finding things. That works too. And don't forget what Elias said about subscribing to podcast newsletters. I forgot about that. I haven't even I need to go subscribe to some more newsletters, because I want to be up on what's going on too.
Speaker 1:So that's what I would say, elias you know there's a good thing to remind me, perfect reminder. I'm gonna put most of the podcast newsletters that I subscribe to and they are free because they have helped me grow, especially when people are too afraid. Some reason youtubers they're just very critical, but for the stupid reasons you know, youtube is a dangerous place.
Speaker 2:It's scary. I'm not like youtube, I don't care I don't care, I I challenged them.
Speaker 1:I'm I'm a warrior on that, but they get the comments.
Speaker 1:The criticism they say is back it up. You can't back it up. You're dumb. If you're gonna say something, back it up. But You're dumb. If you're going to say something, back it up. And if that's my question, no response. If you're going to comment, think it through. Don't be stupid, all right. Oh, okay, let me calm down. My real New York accent is going to pop up. Don't be stupid, all right. No, be be real thoughtful. Just say, oh, and they put evidence or even a clip of me saying something wrong on timestamp. All right, that's a good way to do it.
Speaker 1:And there are things. I made, mistakes too. I catch sometimes, especially those I don't catch. So for you to say well, one of them said I said about this Amazon thing, wrong, it wasn't wrong. The idiot just misheard me on one of them. Yeah, I call you an idiot Unsub. I don wrong, it wasn't wrong. The idiot just misheard me on one of them. Yeah, I call you an idiot unsub. I don't need your subscription, by the way. I only want worthy people in my group. I'd rather have a thousand worthy people than a million schmucks, weaklings, nobodies.
Speaker 2:I want them all. You come to me, it's okay, I'll take a milli.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you, you take, adam is a nice guy I'm not as nice, I'll take them all, tell me more, I'll get that down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there you go, and that sub, that sub. That's listening. You come over to my channel, son, you're welcome.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Shameless, elias, shameless, I don't care.
Speaker 1:There you go. I want the worthy, I want the smart, I want the strong, the strong, I want the daring.
Speaker 2:I'll take them all, I will discriminate based on if you're emotional, cry baby, go to adam, go to him, all right, go to him all of them and watch all the episodes. It'll help you with your mental health.
Speaker 1:You're good if you're functionally stupid, go to adam yes, it'll make you smarter, I agree.
Speaker 1:Listen to mich, I don't care, I don't care, I really don Listen to me. I don't care, I don't care, I really don't. Oh, some of them. I don't care, I really don't. I I look if you're too weak for me to scope, cause I'm. There's some things I'm not going to change. If anything, I get crazier. All right.
Speaker 1:Now for those of you who are, who have endured this, actually this, actually what the hell I'm doing? I got to do my own shameless plug in. How can I forget that? I blame Adam, by the way. No, but all seriousness, it's just I'm having too much fun here.
Speaker 1:Ok, for my loyal minions or I mean followers like subscribe. When you subscribe, click on the notification bell to get all the notification, especially for what's applicable to YouTube and Rumble. Share this with someone. And then for apple podcast. I don't care about spotify. To hell with spotify. If you leave a review there, I'm not going to pay attention to it.
Speaker 1:If I have a podcast, give me an honest review. Tell me why the episode is great or an opposite, and why the episode sucked okay, and what can I do to improve, or why is it great? You don't put some thought when it comes to review. Don't just leave. You know I love the person One star.
Speaker 1:Give me one star, don't even put anything. Good job, what. That's the biggest. I love you so much for making my rating more authentic because I didn't want a five star, so I you actually helped fulfill my secret goal Authenticity. Thank you so much. Actually, I'm actually being really honest, brutally honest. Believe it or not, I don't want a five star, because five star to me seems it looks fake to me. It's just fake. It's just please, I beg you, give me five star, please. No, I don't do that, I don't beg. I. I would rather you shoot me, blow my brains out, than me begging. Okay, I'm just that kind of person. All right, so that's all I'm gonna say. I'll probably be too dark here. Um, oh man, I got I. I I gotta go to god. You see he's preaching about god and all that. I gotta do this after this episode. No, alcohol, just not that kind of spirit. I need the real, real, you know, jesus christ a real yeah you know that?
Speaker 1:no, that I'm serious. I'm actually believe it or not, I'm a christian. I would say I'm the most flawed Christian in there. No, but God is good for you, and if you're atheist, please be offended. Please be offended. Go to Adam, by the way, he will be nice to you with God.
Speaker 2:I'm talking so much about God and Jesus and everything else You're going to. I don't know. You know you'll be touched in your own time, but it's going to be on our show, that's for sure.
Speaker 1:Not on mine, because I'm over proud warrior, I'm over defender of God and I will scare you away if I have to. Maybe you'll change your mind. But hey, listen, I am not. I am not for the faint of heart. So that is it for this lovely episode. So once you finish this visual and slash or audio journey, you have a blessed day, afternoon or night. I know I have the audacity to say blessing after all the bashing I've done. Find in your heart to forgive me for being a foolish Christian. Amen. There we go.
