304- Democracy at Risk: Europe's Troubling Path With Michael Anderson

Michael Anderson returns to discuss how neoliberalism has captured Western European politics and why Americans should be concerned about similar trends emerging at home.

• Neoliberalism believes everything in society should operate like a corporation, including universities, charities, and NGOs
• Universal ID systems in several European countries link citizens' personal information, banking, and health data, creating potential for government control
• UK police make approximately 30 arrests daily for "offensive" online posts, showing the erosion of free speech
• The World Economic Forum promotes global governance that removes accountability to citizens
• European farmers face strict limitations on land use and livestock numbers under neoliberal environmental policies
• America's two-party system has created a pendulum effect that has prevented deep entrenchment of neoliberal policies
• Silicon Valley elites are major promoters of globalism due to their worldwide operations
• Conservative philosophy focuses on individual rights while neoliberal philosophy focuses on group control
• Observe what's happening in Europe as a preview of potential threats to American freedoms

Check out Past Conversations with Michael Anderson

Episode 192

https://www.buzzsprout.com/2308824/episodes/14752478-192-intersectionality-with-politics-and-human-development-executive

Episode 223

https://www.buzzsprout.com/2308824/episodes/15409491-223-overcoming-political-tribalism-insights-from-michael-anderson-on-u-s-democracy-third-parties-and-social-media-s-role

Episode 271

https://www.buzzsprout.com/2308824/episodes/17180624-271-america-s-counterfeit-democracy-with-michael-anderson

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https://www.mikeandersonsbooks.com/

Additional Articles

https://www.eunews.it/en/2024/03/26/from-2026-eu-citizens-to-have-a-european-digital-identity/

https://freespeechunion.org/?v=0b3b97fa6688

https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/priorities-2019-2024/europe-fit-digital-age/european-digital-identity_en

Transcript

Welcome to Politically High Tech

Speaker 1 0:12

Welcome everyone to Politically High Tech with your host , elias . I have returning guests here . I will say my personal favorite doesn't mean I lean , you know , center right . But even though some of my positions can be easily identified as center right and I'm just give you just a brief example Abortion , as long as you know the baby is viable , I think it should be carried to turn , you know , with the exception of the endangerment of mother . Rape and incest . I would say yeah , sorry . Rape and incest I would say yeah , sorry , I'm going to side with the pro-choice people , only in those circumstances . So I think that's more like a center right position , that's more of a Reagan position , to be more exact . I think you have those exact words . So that one . That's one of the few things me and Reagan got in common , just that I don't want the late term abortions , in my personal opinion , or just take the pill at home . I mean , check that last , check that episode with Stuart Keller where we talk about life and all abortion . Interesting , interesting episode .

Speaker 1 1:15

But we're not going to focus here . We're going to focus more on UK , maybe even broader Europe , abroad , but what's going on and why we americans should give a darn about this ? This could be . You could look at this in many ways . It could be good . Why we are different and some of you who are more cynical , as more of a european point of view , yeah say , oh , these two crazy americans are gonna bash europe . No , but if you want to be in your feelings , go right ahead . You're entitled to your opinion , but you're not entitled to the truth of the facts . I'm just gonna say , like that , it's a fair man me , I might be more judgy . I can't promise that for my end . Personally , I don't even speak for me . But with that being said , let's welcome back mr michael anderson .

Speaker 1 2:01

You know he talks about in his previous books how the DNA really shapes our politics . Yeah , and certain parts of the brains are more developed than others , and I'm not going to get too deep into that . That's you know , that's what he talks about and you know I tend to see truth checkers . Why is it that certain people can be convinced maybe because it was acting a certain political affiliation that they really weren't ? Or , you know , there's this virtual signaling . You know , once you turn off the cameras and everything , and they're just those that they are just so hell bent on their position , which is fine to some degree , no hell bent on their position , which is fine to some degree .

Speaker 1 2:47

But if you cannot at least see that your side is screwing up or your side got the bad ideas , then you're a cult member . You're just yeah , an elitist could do no wrong on your side . No , we got to be better than that , people . Moderation is important , balance is important . Okay , and I'm summarizing him . He could add more when he introduced himself , so he's he's been a returning guest and I think I'm going to be slightly strict here about what do you want ? The audience of the listeners to know about you .

Speaker 2 3:19

Books on politics . The first four were about left-right differences , basically going at that from different standpoints . The fifth book is called Rule of the Powered Elite and it's about how the elites control our country and our government . It's always been that way . You can't change it because they use their wealth and power to influence the government , like I said . So those are my five books . I read on Substack about contemporary American politics . Also , I usually publish one article per week , and so that's what I do .

Speaker 1 4:06

Summary you see why he's he's good , he's been welcome back and I was putting slightly stricter stands on him with introduction . Never on content , never on value . You know , we can even go off the rails and add some kind of unintended value . I'm all for it . So how can we start this ? And it's going to branch off . I think we could use uk as a starting point here . I mean most of my americans , but most of my what am I saying ? I can't speak . Most of my audience is american and I say the second highest will be from india . So I'm sure this is going to track you to the most . I mean , you know ind , know India , you know you have the colonial well , former colonial relationship with that nation and you , four decades ago , just be freed from them . America had that too , but we just did it much earlier with the help of the French . So that's your little basic history , geopolitical connection , right there .

Speaker 2 5:00

Let me talk about my philosophy just a little bit more before we get started , and I guess it'll be obvious to the audience once we get going . But I'm a DNA conservative , meaning I was born with conservative genes so I tended toward conservatism . But I'm a moderate politically because I'm not an ideologue . I don't believe in ideology because I'm a practical political type , and so I believe that good ideas come from both sides and that consensus is superior to ideology and control by one side or the other . So I'm a moderate .

Speaker 2 5:44

There are and I respect the Democrats . I respect traditional Democrats . I do not respect radical people on the left , and so you hear me talking against both radical lefties , particularly socialists or communists on the left , because they want to change our society , particularly socialists or communists on the left , because they want to change our society . And I'm also against neoliberalism , which , along with globalism , is a very popular political ideology around the world that has taken very strong hold in Western Europe , and so we're going to talk a little more about that , moving through the discussion here little more about that .

Speaker 1 6:29

Uh , moving through the discussion here yep , that's a . So I'm sure the american in the indian audience was my two largest are going to have some interest in that , and maybe a few europeans who think these two crazy americans are going to bash your country . No , this is mostly analytical . Maybe I will bash it like , like I said , I don't speak for me , maybe , but or maybe I might be sympathetic . Who knows ? I can't promise anything . Sometimes I'm like a wild card . We'll see how it goes from there . But I am curious to learn I'm sure you're curious to learn about why we're talking about Western Europe . Particularly , when we talk about Western Europe , let's be clear . We don't talk about Spain and Portugal . You know they technically Western Europe UK , france and Germany , the big three , right , that's a great influence of the European Union . So I just want to say that , just to be clear . So Spain , portugal , you left out , you know what ?

Speaker 2 7:18

Let's talk about neoliberalism for a minute . What it is for a minute . What it is , neoliberalism , basically , is a concept that , if you define it , you'd say neoliberalists believe that everything in society should be dedicated toward a capitalist operation , because capitalism is superior to every other institutionalization of human society , so it should be spread and adopted everywhere . For example , universities should be run like corporations , non-government organizations should be run like corporations , charities should be run like corporations . Charities should be run like corporations . Everything in a society should be run like a corporation , because that's the most efficient way to operate . And so it came into being in the late 1970s , actually right before Reagan was elected . But neoliberalism didn't really get going probably till the 80s . And then the first president who was strongly neoliberal was Clinton . And then there was interruption when Bush got elected , because Bush was more of a neocon , neoconservative than a neoliberal . But then when Obama got elected , he used most of the senior officials from the Clinton administration and his administration . So his was neoliberal also , as is the Biden administration was a Biden administration . So you know there are neoliberals on both sides of politics . But the Republicans have a faction of neoliberals , but it's not as deeply ingrained as it is on the left in the Democratic Party , the European experience , which is started right after the Soviet Union fell in 1990 , they've had 30 years of imposing neoliberal philosophy in their countries , and I should mention neoliberalism goes along with globalism , goes along with globalism . In other words , we need to build one big global society using neoliberal principles , because that's the way to attain the ultimate efficiency in government , because if we have a global organization running everything , we can cut out all the errors and mistakes made by the individual nation states , so it's viewed as superior .

Speaker 2 10:12

The problem is , a neoliberal state is really 1984 reincarnated , because it calls for a global organization that controls the world . 1984 describes it exactly . You have things like food supply controlled , you have medical services controlled , you have education controlled , you have living standards controlled . You have incomes controlled , living standards controlled , you have incomes controlled , and the neoliberal global estate that exists now is pretty widespread . There's a lot of major corporations that are global corporations that are fully invested in it , but there are a ton of organizations called NGOs stands for non-government organization . Example of that is the USAID organization that Trump attacked when he first got elected . The trouble with NGOs is they're not accountable to anybody . So and that's the big problem . When you remove the nation state and you put the power in the hands of the globalists , suddenly the people don't have any vote , because they don't vote for NGOs , they don't vote for the World Bank , they don't vote for the International Monetary Fund , they don't vote at all for those things , and there are no laws governing the behavior of those organizations . So they can basically do whatever they want , in other words , take over our lives if they'd like to .

Speaker 2 11:48

So my objection to neoliberal , globalist philosophy is that it seeks an authoritarian state , and in seeking that , it denies the rights of the public to have a say in government . So that's the main beef . How do we see this manifest in Europe ? We see it in limiting the amount of land that farmers in the Netherlands can cultivate , limiting the number of farm animals they're allowed to raise , and this is done under the guise of they're creating too much pollution . So you have to cut back . Meanwhile , they have trouble making a living then because they can't work their farm .

Speaker 2 12:41

It comes in the form of a universal ID that's being implemented in Europe . There are five countries that have that now , so you're required to have a universal ID if you live in those countries . Those countries can advance to the point where you know , for example , let's say you get a speeding ticket or something , um , they can control . They can just take money out of your bank account Because if , if the universal ID is tied to your banking and you use it for your banking and the government has access to it , then they can do whatever they want . Uh , let's say you commit a crime Well then they can cut your income in half . Let's say you commit a crime Well then they can cut your income in half . I'm talking about futures . Potentially , I'm talking about where this could go if elites are given the power to build a global organization that has no accountability .

Speaker 1 13:38

Right , what are the five countries that have that system right now ? I know you talked about the futures and all that .

Speaker 2 13:44

I can't remember . I um sweden is one . Uh , I think germany , I think france , I'm not sure germany no , let me .

Speaker 1 13:55

Let me look . I'm very curious .

Speaker 2 13:57

I know you gotta be researching here also five countries , universal ID and well here's another thing If you're not vaccinated , it shows on the ID so they can deny you . I mean , look at , there were 8000 soldiers kicked out of the US Armed Forces because they didn't get the shot . Very simple to do that in Europe Kick somebody

Understanding Neoliberalism's Global Impact

Speaker 2 14:21

out of the army , firearm from their job , prevent them from getting a job .

Speaker 1 14:26

You could do that so , for those of you who love your individual rights , appreciate them . In america , yep , so and um , oh , okay , I think , universal id countries in terms of europe , well , I got . Well . Actually , no , this is um , this is um . I don't trust it that much . So it sounds like if they give .

Speaker 2 14:47

Well , you can quote it with caveats . I say I mean that's . It can be wrong , but I mean as a first place to look to get a quick answer . I start there and then I validate it .

Speaker 1 15:01

So what does it say ? Well , they got the ones they list according to ai . Let me just go back for a second . They got um . Well , I'm just gonna skip the ones , I know it's not . They got estonia . Oh , we don't talk about that .

Speaker 1 15:18

You already mentioned sweden , germany and , oh and oh , looks like um , oh , ind . India . You know some of you are from India . The reverse ID is there as well . Yeah , even though you're not a European nation , but I mention that because of my audience . Yeah , these are .

Speaker 1 15:39

If you want globalization , just know that it's going to come with some costs . Let me see what I got here Anylinecom , full list of supported IDs or country's universe IDs for scanning . Wow , austria , ooh , austria got it in all three . Yikes , france is part of it . Lovely , not surprised . Italy , hmm , I thought Italy was turning a little more to the right . Well , neoliberalism still got a grip there , apparently .

Speaker 1 16:08

Okay , what is this ? You scan for your driver's license ? Health insurance , of course . Oh , health insurance too , yikes , yeah , so yeah , once they got your stuff , that's it . So you could commit a crime in another European country . Is it so universal ? I mean , you know we talk about the social credit score in China and stuff , but it's very close to what you think , people , and this is not about China , it's about European countries and it's not just Europe that has this . Let me just give a little footnote . Canada is having something to that effect as well . If you think I'm wrong , chat you could , or comment section , just feel free to put that there . This is very preliminary research , so , but yeah , but yeah , that's . If you love your individual rights , you should be alarmed , but if you don't mind the globalist neoliberals running you should be OK , right , until you do something wrong , right , populist neoliberals running you should be okay , right , until you do something wrong , right .

Speaker 2 17:13

So let's segue to the United States , because the United States does not have the history of neoliberalism that the European countries do . I mean , it wasn't . There have been neoliberals here and I think I mentioned , when you and I were talking privately , that the Clinton , obama and Biden administrations were all neoliberal based . The George Bush administrations were mostly neocon , different approach , but actually Biden had neocons in his administration too . That's where the Ukrainian war stuff came from . Administration too , that's where the Ukrainian war stuff came from . But I don't want to get into defining what a neocon is , because that would get us off the subject . But the World Economic Forum has a platform or program 2030 , which has objectives to try and get as much of Europe and the rest of the world engaged in the neoliberal state build as possible . Biden signed the treaty , the 2030 plan treaty , on behalf of the United States , but of course it doesn't mean anything now that Trump's elected , because it'll never be implemented .

Speaker 2 18:25

I think the impetus for neoliberalism on the left is the elites from Silicon Valley , because they're neoliberals , they're globalists . I mean , if you own Facebook or you own Google or you own Apple , you're a globalist because you're all over the globe . So they , those guys , are on the left left side and they support globalism and they're strong influencers in the party . Because conservatism is the opposite of neoliberalism in the sense that the conservative philosophy is based on individuality . Conservatives believe that individuals should have rights and that government's role should be limited in the way that it infringes on those rights , whereas the left is more is group-oriented . I mean , all the socialists are there , the welfare state believers are there . So in general , people on the left believe in big government and a government that responds to the needs of specific groups , particularly minorities or disadvantaged groups . So it's basically a group think view versus an individual view . And you can't be a conservative and a true conservative , or a strong Republican and support neoliberalism because it's incompatible .

Speaker 2 20:06

So Trump arose because of a disjointed Republican Party and a government that wasn't doing anything , based on tribalism . So the left and right have been fighting ever since Obama probably have been fighting ever since Obama probably . And government doesn't move forward because everything is a slash and burn effort on both sides against the other side . So when you look at the number of meaningful bills that pass Congress and there's a consensus about there are few and far between . You can see it , you can read it in the paper . So the neoliberals are alive and well , but weak in the United States to the point where I don't think they're going to have a significant impact because they're not going to be able to touch half the electorate .

Speaker 2 20:58

In Europe they have a much bigger stronghold . There are multiple parties in most European countries , it's not just two , where the conservatives have one side and the liberals have the other . So there's more opportunities to find party people who are sympathetic to neoliberalism . It's my belief and it's been going on longer there . Neoliberals are the people that believe in universal immigration . They believe that there shouldn't be any borders . The true , perfect state is a multicultural state where everybody gets a right to enter and live as they please . So that's again that's a case of disjointedness between the left and right . The conservatives generally feel they're law and order people , so they don't believe that anybody should be coming into the country illegally . They don't have a problem with people entering legally . Issue in the 24 election because the amount of crime produced by illegal immigrants was noticeable and made headlines every day .

Speaker 1 22:11

Wow , now you said so much . Listen , listeners and viewers hope you've been paying attention Me . I've been verifying AI . Ai is not that correct when it comes to Canada . Canada has only been tested in trials and they are trials , so let me just make that correction for myself . Right now , india already has some levels of implementation of it . That's another correction I'm going to make . I just want to make sure I get at least some of the nuances correct . But Denmark has it . Estonia , well , estonia . I haven't been able to verify that real quick , but Sweden and Germany does definitely have their universal ID . Look , if you trust the government that much , it's a good thing for you , but if you like individual rights and privacy and you don't trust government , you should be terrified .

Speaker 2 22:56

Now we're putting in universal ID here , but that's for identification purposes . It has nothing to do with banking , right , because to fly you have to have the new driver's license . And I get that , because unless you have some kind of system to find people who are here illegally , or criminals or something , then you know it's not good . So I get that .

Speaker 1 23:32

I get that but it does set the stage for controls , because if you know who everybody is and you can find them , then you can control them theoretically . And so , for example , if I was a citizen , if I was just still in Germany , if I was a citizen of that country , I decided by a book uh , they'll look at me a little little suspicious there . Of course , this is assuming worst case scenario abuse . Would it happen in that level ? I , I would , I don't know , I can't say I doubt it , because boy , give power like that to government . I mean it is more prone to abuse . Yep , I mean , you know , this is someone with a . You know , I have an American worldview , so I have a . You know , I of course have my own biases . I'm not going to say that I don't . I'm more skeptical than not in America . I think we even having some trials with that as well , which is very , very interesting .

Speaker 1 24:26

You , several states is looking towards digital IDs . So let's just add that in the UK they said there's been discussions of that , but no real concrete . But this is based on 2024 . So we'll , of course , this has changed . This is developing . This is a developing situation . Okay , let's just be clear . So , if you pay attention to this in 2027, . You think we're wrong ? No , we're just reporting based on I can find , based on preliminary 2025 data , 2024 data . Okay , this is developing . So I'm just giving you that concept . I feel like I've been like Mr Disclaimer here . Well , we'll have a conversation , which I've been like Mr Disclaimer here , more than having a conversation . I don't like that role , but I think it needs to be .

Speaker 2 25:09

Now , let's talk about France and England , which we did before , so I want to hold up my book again . This is a book Twilight of the Elites , written in 2019 by a French geographer . Interesting background by a French geographer interesting background but basically he describes how the government of France is crashing , and the same situation applies to Great Britain . In France , the neoliberal globalists have made Paris a world city , so it's the center of finance , investment and corporate governance in the country of France and a major player in global trade and globalism . If you want to be successful in France , you need to be born in Paris and have wealthy parents who will send you to an elite school , and then you'll get an elite job and you'll continue to live in Paris . You won't live in a small country town because there's nothing happening there . So all the attention , the investments and the spotlight is on Paris as a global city , and the rest of France gets ignored , and the people in the rest of France don't have the opportunities for living a good life or advancing or climbing the economic ladder that Parisians do . Same in Great Britain with London London is the center of 90% of the financial and global activity of England and the rest of England , basically , is ignored by the government .

Speaker 2 26:55

As you brought up this First Amendment stuff in England , I'm amazed whenever I read about it . I guess we're spoiled by the extent of our First Amendment rights here . European countries don't have First Amendment rights . I don't know if people know that they don't have . I mean we have freedom of speech and assembly and all that stuff built into one amendment . They don't have that stuff and currently in England if you post a , it isn't even threatening a what they perceive as adversarial post on social media . Let's say you go on Facebook and you say climate change is a scam and they're just trying to rip us off .

Speaker 2 27:42

You'll be arrested and you go to jail . And I mean some of these cases and I can't . I don't have any top of mind , but it's easy to find them . People will get a year in jail for that . It's not like you get five days and 25 days citizens release or something . You get a year in jail because you made a statement that countered government policy . It's horrible to imagine that that's happening . It could never happen here , because no American would allow that to happen .

Speaker 1 28:17

Well , I hope so , because certain Americans will want that too , and we know what camp they normally come from . And I'm going to criticize even some people on the right as well . They pretend to be the all free speech until they get butthurt and secretly agree with some certain censorship . They're slicker about it . That's why it's harder to catch some of them . Oh , but there's a stat that popped up about , you know , offensive online messages . Police make 30 arrests a day . This is it , breton . Yeah , this is yeah . This is sir kira stormer , who is current prime minister , labor so someone on the left and yep .

Speaker 1 29:01

So , and I'm going to post that link to the article . It's called freespeechunionorg , so that's a very recent statistic , so you post some . I don't know , and I hate to bring Candace Owens into this , but since there's a defamation case against her saying that Brigitte Macron is a man Right .

Speaker 1 29:30

There's that going on as well , even though America is free speech and all that . But of course they think differently because free speech is not a thing over there . And let me just throw in another European . This is more of a commentary for Prince Harry . He thinks the 1A is ridiculous and crazy . The First Amendment yeah as well . Welcome to America , you can move out if you don't like it .

Speaker 1 29:55

I've never been a big fan of him , but still Some would think it's weird and crazy because they don't have that kind of law in there . That's very you know , american , don't get me wrong . The 1 kind of law in there , that's very you know , american , don't get me wrong . The 1a has been eroding in america , let me just be clear about that . But I think there's at least some . There's pushback which is good , some tangible pushback which I like . Look , if you're gonna say I'm gonna , you know , do something real violent to the person , then then I would say I'm support of police investigations or things like that's a threat , yeah . But if I'm just saying , you know , let me just use the guess here , for example , I think he's racist because he's white , okay , let me just throw something .

Speaker 1 30:38

And people sadly believe this . It's because some people believe because you're white , you're inherently evil . Me , I don't personally believe that . I think that's just obviously racist . You should fight racism with more racism . If you try to destroy racism for good , right , I mean I don't believe that . I mean , come on , you know me and him have a good relationship .

Speaker 1 30:58

This is like his fourth , fifth appearance here . For Christ's sake , I mean , you should be able to debunk this . Oh , but he's been here four or five times , of course , of course .

Universal IDs and Government Control

Speaker 1 31:10

The point is , you know , people will I mean the left , will throw that kind of slander right there and I'm using more of a left wing , especially more like a progressive far left slander on someone just because they don't like the person . No , when you use a strong language for every single little thing , it loses the , the word loses gravitas and it's true intended meaning . That's why I'm just , you know , saying , of course I don't think he's a racist and if you can't , you know , distinguish that , then you , I think you need , you need , you need to do a lot of reform on your upstairs and I'm just trying to be as nice as I can , because I can be a pretty nasty person , especially if I don't have the patience .

Speaker 2 31:49

I thought of something else we need to talk about and that is the censorship in Europe . We didn't talk about the globalists and I don't know whether it's the World Economic Forum who's doing this . Some organization that includes the heads of states of the neoliberal countries are now censoring the social media companies and you probably read about that . Twitter , facebook and all that and Google are given rules about what they're allowed to publish and when they break those rules they get hefty fines . So this is kind of a more direct censorship they're trying to apply not to people but to organizations .

Speaker 2 32:38

I mean , if I look at Twitter a little bit , I post on Twitter and I don't spend a lot of time on it because it's too vitriolic these days . Just , you know rants by everybody , but I swear just about everybody . Everybody's post on there could put them in jail if they were in Europe . I mean , those you know , like Trump's a Nazi . Democrats are fascists . They all ought to be killed . You know , whatever it's , just it's crazy . It becomes numbing because , like you said , all that invective loses its power and you wonder whether people are just showing off . You know , I posted this because I think I'm cool or I want to get clicks or something . I don't know , but it doesn't accomplish anything . It's just one rant against another . So I may post something controversial . All the responses are rants against that person . It accomplishes nothing .

Speaker 1 33:37

Yeah , I'm just going to try to be real quick . I mean , let's just say they all were European citizens , the prison system would be overwhelmed with the amount of arrests they could make . And I'm laughing about this because this is why you need to appreciate America , at least for this reason , America . There's a lot to criticize and I do agree with some of the criticism , but I mean , people would just be on top of each other . They got to do some kind of accommodation . I doubt their jails are large as Americansicans , so they're gonna get overwhelmed . And there's so much people , just based on the term , they use hate speech , offensive speech , you know , verbal violence , whatever you want to code it with . Yeah you're , you are going to be arrested . I mean not because it's baffling to me as an American . So that's why American Bias is showing and I can't believe there are not .

Speaker 2 34:36

I'm not that familiar with the judicial system there , but why aren't there protests against that ? Are people afraid to protest against those laws ? They seem to be going quietly to jail because they did , you know , post this questionable content and they get arrested and they go to jail and it's just , it's a headline , but then that's the end of it .

Speaker 1 35:01

I don't know . I mean I haven't seen any pushback or protests on that , but we did see protests on other things and you know , before we record it , my fault , by the way , because he was actually . He was going at one hundred , I was at twenty five . If you don't out of a scale for a hundred , use at least one hundred and twenty five , and I'm using most conservative measurements . You want to be a little liberal , I will give him 150 . All right , it may be . It may be .

Speaker 1 35:32

If I would done no with over core , he probably would have been the most animated man . Yes , this is the same my man , this is a yep . I mean that , I mean , but but , um , I mean , I agree , I , I agreed , I . This is why I watch content like globally , because I want to be informed what the heck is going on and what the heck they're . You know what they're doing on various issues . I mean they protest on farms , which I think that's actually important , and I'll give them credit for that . I guess food is more important than speech , especially like france and and , uh , you know , of course , the yellow vest peopleest people we talked briefly about I remember there was lots of and especially , I think migration , I think it's another one , if I'm not mistaken . But you already said the government generally , and even with the World Economic Forum , they have this strong neoliberal philosophy that has a strong root , as opposed to America . America , we go through our phases . We get our right-leaning phase , left-leaning phase . It's more like a pendulum swing .

Speaker 2 36:35

Because you're two parties .

Speaker 1 36:37

That's it . That's why some things don't take a root after , probably a decade later , like Obamacare . That's a good example that that policy is strong because obama intelligently pushed it through congress . If it was executive order , trump would have shred that . Okay , trump would have shred that , but he passed it through congress . That's why you just can't get rid of it . That's why I say , if you wanted to stay there for long term , make sure it passes through Congress . Executive order at best it's a cheap bandaid .

Speaker 1 37:10

The opposite party you know the president opposite party just like it's easy to sign a law , it's easy to get rid of , but it's harder to pass through Congress . But also the lifespan of that law will stay at least for a long time , unless the part of opposition party gets super majority , which , the way it's looking , it's not going to happen anytime soon . Exactly so it's going to stay there for a really long time . And you know the president's veto is going to stick too , because you need two thirds of both you know , the House of Representatives and the Senate to override that veto . That's not happening . Most are going to have sort of like a 55% 45% Democrats or vice versa , depending who controls that . That changes every two years .

Speaker 2 37:57

Did we talk about Klaus Schwab before in our previous encounters ? He's the chairman emeritus of the World Economic Forum . He's the original neoliberal . He's a German . He just got fired as chairman emeritus because of poor behavior , but he's 87 years old . He started the organization in 1971 to build globalism .

Speaker 2 38:21

But he's written a series of books . I've read three of them . It's interesting to look at them because he suddenly plans the new world order . But when you read his books it's like it's the ultimate altruism . But it really isn't . Like he talks about the fact that we're going to cure all disease in the world , because we're going to take money and put it toward the research necessary to create vaccines that everybody will receive . And the trouble with having a bunch of nation states is that gets all messed up and doesn't get distributed right . We're going to distribute it right , but in order to implement all the programs he's proposing you have to bring everybody down to the same income . Basically , you have to have limited incomes because you have to have money to be able to do all this redistribution area . It's basically an authoritarian socialist government , that globalist . So if you read his book , you read about and you think about wow , this sounds like solve hunger , solve disease . It's great , but the architecture that you need to execute that means central control .

Speaker 1 39:42

so there it is and just to say why I'm gonna be very oppositional here . Forget , forget . Trying to be fair , it's just not possible . The pragmatic point of view every government operates very differently . They got different priorities . As nice as that sounds , it's not pragmatic .

Speaker 2 40:01

And if I'm gonna be cynical , it's just not possible yeah , yeah , this is another level of socialism , basically because socialist theory started with Rousseau in 1750 . Ok , it's always been a dream of the left to be able to make socialism work and I applaud that . It would be great if it would

Free Speech Under Attack in Europe

Speaker 2 40:24

, but it doesn't , because you can't get people to be equal in a group larger than about 20 . I mean , in the early 1800s they set up these utopian societies , most in the United States . There were 50 or 60 or 70 of them that started with 80 to 120 people and they all collapsed because they couldn't endure . I mean , they basically had work assignments . Everybody had a job to do and there were different jobs , obviously , but they each had to contribute an equal amount and then they would share in the production of the society .

Speaker 2 41:04

It never worked because in a group of human beings , a leadership will develop . That's the way it is , and there are a lot of people who are happy not being a leader . Most people I would say seven or eight out of 10 , I think I've seen data on this people would rather be a follower than a leader . They're happy to join a group that has a leader if they trust that individual . They don't want to be a co-leader with the other 10 people . They're not interested in that .

Speaker 1 41:40

Yeah , I mean , it's just easy , right , it's to be a follower . Let's just be honest , being a leader is actually tough . Tough , I mean . And even just give a more microscopic example , you look at certain um game shows I'm not going to mention survivor because I have a very negative opinion of that . I think wokeness have , for me , killed the game , but that's just , that's a whole nother beast for another day . That's more first world BS . That that's not a big , that's not a major priority . But there was this game show that's more similar to survival and is real survivor , cause he really got to go out there through the Alaskan forest . They are my respect .

Speaker 1 42:18

It's not a very friendly place to human beings . Okay , there's no , there's no society . They got to create the encampments and all that . They got to hunt for food and you got to deal with bears and all that craziness . The reason why I'm mentioning that is because a lot there there are teams , but for the most part a team they . You know there's one that it is always just that , one that always voluntarily takes over as a leader and people generally agree more often than not that's okay , this person's a leader . But there was one camp I think it was team alpha , that there was more of a conflict one . He was more like a loner . He wanted to do he , he , he had talked to anybody , he did his own thing , while the other two kind of follow .

Speaker 1 43:02

This woman , who has a lot of leadership experience , of course she became the leader . So it's not , you know , it's not always gender-based people . She does have a lot of leadership experience , like corporate and all that . So she naturally took over being a leader . It's very strong on her background . So she's and she was saying I don't know how to take orders for anybody . I don't think I'll be , I don't want to take orders for anybody . So she's a real , I mean capital type A personality . She dominates . And the reason why I'm saying that is because people will tend to designate the leader . And there were other teams that well , there was one , I think , that had great rapport with each other . It was more , I would say , the closest to socialism . I mean it was four people . I guess it could work . I don't think a larger society can . Let's just be all artists . And I was . I was thinking delta , yeah , delta , they had this generally good karate associate . I want to talk about early game people . This is not spoilers or anything .

Speaker 1 43:55

It's like the first two episodes okay my point is people , certain a few people , the special type , a people they're comfortable being leaders , rather they're . They're competent or not , that's a whole other thing , but they naturally take it over and a lot of people don't want to be leaders because they don't want to show off and they don't want to be seen as a threat or combative or difficult or dominating Right . So you know this is a micro example , but this is human nature , tendencies , that this is my point here .

Speaker 2 44:25

So I want to make a qualification of my prior statement because I don't want people to think that 10's the limit or something , because the ancient human societies had about 50 people in them and those are egalitarian and everybody was equal . There was a leader and maybe a medicine man , and people respected the elders because they had lived longer , but there was no social hierarchy . They all worked together to find food and they stayed together and they were generally families , groups of families . They weren't groups of strangers . So they already had a patriarchy because the men were related , whatever . So that worked in that situation . But then as soon as man developed agriculture and you could grow food densely , then people could start having towns and villages . They could live close together because they had access to food , and then land ownership began , which created wealth . So from then on it was the wealthy control .

Speaker 1 45:34

That is sociology and history 101 about society building people . Very basic , very fundamentals , but you know it's all accurate . You want to debate that ? Go right ahead . There's a common section for you right there . I will not agree with your craziness , but I will respect your right and bravery to post it on the comment section . Just remember , youtube will censor you . Wait for it to put on Rumble , rumble . You have a lot more freedoms . You could put your more spicy opinions in there . Okay , and I'm just going to laugh . I've been called names in the chat , so I'm fine with that . I even laugh because you know you're . I said say that to my face in person . I doubt you would . And you're just . You're just tough with a key , with a digital keyboard of this phone or through a laptop . Most people don't use a stationary computer anymore Like I would phone or through a laptop . Most people don't use a stationary computer anymore . You know the so-called PC , okay , so that's all I'm going to say about that .

Speaker 2 46:32

But so what else is getting something ? What else is on your mind , sir ?

Speaker 1 46:38

To be honest . I think , yeah , we don't , we don't , we . I think this is good here because we need to . This is why I think , pay attention , global politics is helpful because sometimes the impact is going to be indirect and sometimes it's going to eventually come here . It's kind of like , you know , look into a crystal ball , so to speak . This is what happens when you know , for example , speech , is what happens when one is completely dead , especially to freedom , speech . Freedom , you know , assembly and all that good stuff .

Speaker 2 47:11

Let me just say something in summary about the European situation . It's worth observing because they're ahead of us in the adoption of neoliberalism . You can look at what's happening there and say that could happen to us if we let it , because it's not going to end well , but it's going to end there first , before it even gets started here . So we'll have plenty of chance to evaluate it .

Speaker 1 47:35

And to the American farmers . Let me speak to you in particular . Do you want a big super government entity controlling how many cows you can raise , how many chickens and how much you know crops could be reserved for the other country ? Just , you know , let's just imagine the North American or just the American Union . We include all North America and South America , super big organization America you got to . You know , say , 50 , 50 percent of your crops , send that to Brazil . Sending your crops , send that to Brazil . You know , I'm sure a lot of Americans would just say , and excuse my French , hell , no to that . We're going to focus on the country and my family and any of that . I mean it's a miracle the fact that we agree nationally in some of these things , all right . So I think that's the biggest stretch you can do , but doing it internationally and having to imagine we have like a just the American Union and then we have to have all this bureaucracy and then , yeah , no , they control how much you could produce without you know , fines and things like that .

Speaker 1 48:37

And it's not just people and you mentioned this really well , I'm happy you did , even major , major companies we're talking about . You know , the Facebook , of course , instagram . They all under Mark Zuckerberg . Um , you know , and you

The Elite Controlled Society

Speaker 1 48:53

and you and I'm sure YouTube as well , yeah , and if they don't behave which is going to be more work for them , because they got to filter out how you don't produce algorithms as a sensor , all of that If they get it wrong , they're paying a hefty price , especially if it continues . That could build up pretty quickly , I think . If you want to bankrupt them , I don't think America's going to do that . I think it's more the European nations or maybe even Asian nations . I think the one I'm looking at is India . India is taking some tough stance on some of the social media policies .

Speaker 2 49:31

Well , if it gets too egregious against the companies , they'll pull out of those countries , they'll just turn it off .

Speaker 1 49:38

Yeah , and that's what they have done . On some situations , like the Australia situations , they pulled out when it was , you know , putting law enforcement , and that's the flip side . You put so much restrictions , coming to say this is not sustainable , this is not worth it , this is more hassle than worth , we're out and you're going to have to find your social media news elsewhere because we're not going to put up with this anymore . So that's also true . Look , rather than pro-social media and all that . That's irrelevant . It's true , um , I might look . Rather , I'm pro social media and all that . That's irrelevant . It's just about how these things are going to impact . You know , companies , the companies will , they . They can't pull out . You know they're not , we're not , they're not , you know , obligated to stay there forever . You know , um , they could just pull out and they have done that . Some situations , like I said there australia was a very good example that , okay , we turn off our service , but you know , you're doing all these laws and it's costing me money and it's too restrictive , it's more hassle than work , so I'm just going to leave , and that's what they would do . That's happened before . I won't be surprised if it happened again . They care about the bottom line . If you keep hurting the bottom line too much , they're gone .

Speaker 1 50:48

Look , I'm very critical of social media companies , but this is the reality here . It is a reality . You could check up articles where they have done various countries okay , not in America . The reason we're not aware of it ? Because we're too busy having fun with this device , a weapon of mass distraction . And you know , I love that quote . I took it for someone I'm not original . Sounds great , I love it too and I said this is perfect . I said I got to take that . It's so good , I had to take it .

Speaker 2 51:17

Everybody needs a flip phone , that's it .

Speaker 1 51:21

Oh , oh , is he going to rabbit hole there ? You know what , if I didn't have this podcasting business , I think I would have thrown this thing out already . And it's sometimes just , you have so much this is , I'm just going to say about smart form . I could just go off the tangent . You have so much features that you're using this thing . Yeah , you're probably at best scratching 10% . Yeah , and this is using your effort , and I'm sure the developers and all that , all you tech geniuses , you probably you use more than 10 , but there's even features . I'm aware that this thing has , this thing has so much , so powerful , but yet we paying so much money for this . And you know what ? I'm gonna go in the rabbit hole too .

Speaker 1 52:05

This spyware okay , if I want pizza , it's gonna give me pizza . Okay , it's gonna give me ads and all that and it's gonna give me what I want . And if I talk crazy stuff I like this conversation here that's gonna give me stuff about how europe is blocking rights of individuals and all that . And because america just cares about attention , hooks and money and both , it ain't doing this to spy on you too . Let's just be real that the fourth amendment is non-existent . Anything with privacy , it's , it's non-existent , it's really . Unless you want to live off the grid , be an Amish , be a cave person , so get your privacy back . That's all I'm gonna say . It's very radical , but I think it's the truth , so all righty . Anything else you want to add before I wrap this up ? Um nope , you drained me .

Speaker 1 52:53

I just he's blaming me , actually partially , is because I should press record . Like 15 minutes ago I was like , okay , so , good . So , because I don't want to be rude , but you know , hesitancy creates one more problem sometimes . Hey , that that's the lesson . Right there , a little random lesson for you , real life . If you didn't learn anything else , okay , so let me do the plug-in for him . Go to his site , join his sub stack and I'm going to put the link to the previous episode we have here that touched about .

Speaker 1 53:26

You know , california democracy which is , it has some relevance to this , but it's just more american . You know the american elite . That's mostly a different situation , but there could be some overlapping similarities because the neoliberals are trying to take over america . They just have not been as successful . So that's your , that's your big difference . And when we're going to get the universal id and all this good stuff and I'm using , yeah , good in quotes , air , quote that , uh , we will see , we'll see and or we'll copy the social credit system of china . I haven't forgot about that , um , but , and we'll see , um , people should just is why freedom , the cost is vigilance , because if we slack off in one generation , a lot of damage we have

Future Politics and Final Thoughts

Speaker 1 54:13

happened and if you're going to recover that damage , which is nearly impossible , we kind of have , I think , sally out civil war , it's the only thing that's going to get it , and I don't want that to happen . It's very bloody , it's going to be get it and I don't want that to happen . It's very bloody , it's gonna be very violent and I don't want that to happen . That just means we have failed to contain this tribalistic um disease . That's really it , you know , ruining america , okay .

Speaker 1 54:39

So I want to put a link to his books . You know , michael anderson'scom All five of them are there . And for that plugin , plugin , that book , twilight of the Elites , I'm going to link that as well . Check his sub stack , check his social medias and if you want to search , you follow him , because I think he has some valuable stuff . And I know one person say you're very biased , um , but the problem is with that comment , lady , specificity is needed . How is he biased ? You say , oh , I like you , but you're biased . I mean he doesn't exactly hide it . I mean , and by sign inherently a bad thing .

Speaker 2 55:20

I mean that's the people .

Speaker 1 55:22

I'm for the public , not for the parties I mean , hey look , if everyone have a bias , everybody will be in jail , including me . I got my own bias . Look , I'm more . Some things I lean to the right , some things I lean to the left . Legalization of weed , I don't know . I'm regretting that , probably shifting a little more to the right after the impacts of new york . It's really not good . So I'm shifting more to the right because I see the disastrous impacts of that .

Speaker 1 55:51

I started right as a teenager . Then I went to the left . You can say it's peer pressure , you won't be wrong . And then now I'd see I said , damn it , I shouldn't have not been peer pressured . So many of them was oh , weed , weed , weed , weed , weed , weed , weed . That was one of the views . I don't know . You sure this could cause that . You know you , you're just opening the floodgates and well , I don't think it's not much of an issue because they closed down . It did .

Speaker 1 56:16

And this is the rare time with the praise . Eric adams , he's done a decent job with crackdown of illegal weed shops . So I give I give him that , um , and the reason why he's doing that because he's let's be real he's off a re-election in new york city . So there's that as well , um , let me shut up and let me just end it with my shameless plugin . So like , comment , subscribe , insert . When you subscribe , click the notification bell for all you know there's options for options for some If you really want to be caught up and make sure that you're getting your feeds . If you want to get all the episodes , go to all okay , and then comment .

Speaker 1 56:55

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Speaker 1 57:17

I personally think that's fake . Okay , I think that's fake . You know what ? And this person won't talk to me anymore . That's fine , I don't care , because I rather have a genuine 4.1 , 4.5 as opposed to a fake 5.0 . It's very fake . It's very fake , all right , just give an honest review . If you think it's great , the reason why . Again . If it's bad , you give a reason why as well . Oh , and if you have extra green , feel free to donate three dollars a month . Okay , just three dollars a month , and I'm going to give you a shout out and put some exclusive , exclusive content , what's that's going to be like extra personal stuff , and I think that stuff that should be gatekeep or something that's ultra controversial .

Speaker 1 58:00

Oh yeah , you think I'm crazy . Some of the explicit ones , the paywall ones . You just think I'm really insane , especially when I let loose . So my opinion well , not opinions , but how I express myself , in particular because by being , overall , I'm more like a swinging centrist , you know , left centrist , right centrist . I have my own little pendulum swing depending on the , the , the american climate . I would say as of now I'm definitely more in a center left .

Speaker 1 58:28

Because of some of trump's craziness , I'm happy I didn't vote for him . I didn't vote for kamala either . I said this is why I didn't vote for him . He had he was gonna pick loyalists , not competence , and some stuff he's doing is crazy . Can he do good and there's a shot , but he's gotta rap . He's gonna have to um , do it quickly because the midterms are coming and , the way I see it , I think the democrats can easily take the house , the senate .

Speaker 1 58:54

I think the republicans have a decent chance of defending that , at least defend their majority . Worst case scenario , I think they might lose just three seats . That's still 50 , 50 , jvance still there , tiebreaker um , that's worst case scenario . But if I'm going to be honest and don't be into the middle , I think Republicans could , best case scenario , gain a seat , maybe lose a seat . It'll be all right in the Senate . But I think the House , the House , the Democrats the question is how much their majority is going to be . Is it going to be like extra five seats ? That's still not a big majority as well . Maybe extra 10 . If I'm going out of a limb , we'll see .

Speaker 1 59:28

And then we got this ridiculous thing war between California and Texas . So we'll see how that turns out . Texas would come more red , california comes more blue . We'll see if that that makes a big impact . If it makes it , maybe . You know the Republicans keep the House and , like I said , republicans are better at gerrymandering . I'm going to be honest , I think Republicans are better at gerrymandering . They're good at that . The Democrats , you got to make an upset on that if you want to destroy this trend . I think Republicans are much better at gerrymandering . That's all I'm . We should be talking about , you know , redistricting and all that , just because they want to make their state more pure , based on the majority of the party . Let's just be clear . It's all about power , both the left and the right . Alrighty , then . Once you complete this audio and visual journey , you have a blessed day afternoon . And visual journey , penny . You have a blessed day afternoon .