307- America's Oligarchic Two-Party System: A Deep Dive with Jose Nino

Jose Alberto "El Nino" Nino joins us to discuss the fundamental flaws in America's political and economic systems and why traditional partisan labels are becoming increasingly obsolete. We explore how money has corrupted our political process and turned our economy into a casino-like system that requires many losers to sustain a few winners.

• America's political system has evolved into an oligarchy where running for office requires millions of dollars
• The financial barrier to political participation filters out average Americans and labor interests
• Our "hamster wheel economy" functions like a casino where "the house always wins"
• Both political parties serve donor interests rather than voter concerns
• Artificial polarization keeps Americans distracted from bipartisan consensus on military spending and corporate subsidies
• U.S. foreign policy in Israel-Palestine and Ukraine primarily serves special interests rather than American needs
• The rise of counter-alliances like BRICS and simultaneous confrontation with multiple powers creates conditions for potential global conflict
• Looking beyond partisan labels is essential to understanding and addressing America's structural problems

Check out Jose's podcast "El Nino Speaks" and follow him on Twitter for more of his independent political analysis that crosses traditional partisan boundaries.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction and New York Perspective
• 1:43 Jose Nino's Political Background
• 5:08 The State of Political Parties
• 13:57 America's Casino Economy
• 18:50 Israel-Palestine Conflict Analysis
• 32:51 Ukraine and U.S. Foreign Policy
• 39:56 World War III Possibilities
• 45:26 Closing Thoughts and Final Remarks

Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:12

Welcome everyone to Politically High Tech with your host, Elias. We've been having a lot of good new people. I say some of them even beating some of the old guests. And if I'm not reaching out to you as much, it's because they knock it out of the park. I mean, I'll reach out to you as a friend. I don't know, but you know, my standards just get higher and higher and higher. Yeah, I may sound like a nice guy, but sometimes you turn off the camera, I could be a bit of an a-ho. And even sometimes when I'm when the recording happens, I don't care. It just pops up out of nowhere. Me being an a-ho. I mean, one one of the episodes you might see by now is about me getting a little verb verbally aggressive with one of them because I don't know. You seem too happy for my liking. As native New Yorkers, if you seem too happy, that's a bit offensive. And then or or I'm just gonna think you're kooky or crazy, you know. You know, we like the stoic. It's not that we're not mean, it's just, you know, we rough around the edges, you know. We gotta peel layers for that. That's that's a New York thing right there. All right. I know you didn't come here to hear my random New York monologue, okay? I'm gonna get straight to it. We're gonna talk about interesting things here in this episode. I'm just gonna warn you. I'm just gonna warn you. It's gonna get a little dicey because I'm gonna say it again. I I hate safe space. Safe space is stupid, safe space or dumb, and I'm gonna keep saying that again. And this is not new coming out of my mouth. Not new at all. All right, and we should have these conversations. We're grown people. We got, you know, the 21 is not the new 12. Okay? To stop. We got you gotta learn to have conversations. The reason why people can have these conversations because they are indoctrinated, they go to their echo chambers. Not just the left, the right got their own version as well. It's just that it's not as pronounced and it's not as recorded. I mean, you can even debate that fine. But let's introduce the guests here, and he calls himself Del Nino. Jose Alberto, yes, I found the middle name. Nino, okay? So before we start, what do you want the listeners and the viewers to know about you?

SPEAKER_01: 2:30

Yeah, so as you mentioned, I have a podcast called El Nino Speaks, where I interview a wide range of hosts across the political spectrum on issues that span geopolitics, culture, economics, and just in general, like American decline, among other issues. And I'm also a pretty prolific writer, and I'm an editor at Headline USA. I write for a host of outlets as well on those issues that I podcast about. I've been in the political game since 07, and I went through a conventional. Well, I was like a libertarian when I entered politics through Ron Paul's former Congressman, Ron Paul's two presidential campaigns to Republican in 2008 and 2012. Since then, I've become more of a kind of like non-denominational nationalist populist, if you will, become politically homeless because even though I started off as a Republican, I have voted for politicians that were either libertarian, Republican, even Democrat on occasion. But nowadays I tend to only vote in local elections because I've grown dissatisfied with the current political system and the choices that are being offered. So these days I tend to write from a very like independent perspective that is very difficult to pigeonhole. And I like to keep it that way because I find that the current dichotomy you see, whether it's like Republican, Democrat, conservative, liberal, or left versus right, I believe is like defunct and it's also very misleading. It doesn't allow us to like analyze politics properly. And I think it's been my kind of goal to get people thinking beyond that.

SPEAKER_00: 4:24

Now I respect that goal because those labels, I mean, if I'm gonna be nice, they're getting outdated, okay? And I think even some of the discussions, I mean, I saw one. I remember this. Actually, no, I'm not gonna be talking about it because it's gonna get get me off the rails, and I don't want to do that. I want to be more focused. Yes, listeners, I'm listening to you. I'll be a little more focused, okay? You're happy? And it's like a last forever, by the way. It's like a cheap band-aid, it's good for a day. The usefulness is gonna come right off. Believe me, it's like a cheap band-aid. Yeah, you know what? I let's talk about the state of the two parties while we're at it, because uh you gave me something that was very interesting. Yes, yes, could give me sources, it's not a bad thing. And you know what? Because look, just because I'm a host doesn't mean I know everything. All right, I'm learning and I'll continue to grow. And you know, I'm being politically involved is actually more important. If anything, I've been politically involved on several things, especially increasing voter rights for independence in New York. Big mission. We lost the battle, but we're gonna continue. And now we got better strategies of how to tackle it. But you know, that's something I'm working on because look, I like voter accessibility. Democrats say when it's convenient. If they really care about voter accessibility, what is allowed open primary? No, yeah, open um primaries. Yeah. I don't care. I think for the general election, you can make that one a little close because independents are allowed to vote there anyways. But when it comes to the primaries, they'd say New York, New Jersey, they're very close. You either gotta be a registered Democrat or Republican. You only could vote within your party. That's it. Okay? It's great we got early voting, but that's the fight that I've been doing. So I'm gonna keep it short. And um, I think basically cash on hand, ooh, the DNC got a lot more money. I'm gonna link the source by the way. RNC has over 84 million and Democrats got nearly 14 million. You need money for American politics. This is based on finances I learned. It's just based on that alone, right? Without you know, the people, the activists, all that good stuff, that looks crapastic. Yes, that's old thing I'm gonna use again. Aging myself is a millennial. That is bad. That is horrendous.

SPEAKER_01: 6:34

I mean, I can speak from experience as well. One reason why I firmly believe that US, the US political system does not care about like the will of the everyday voter, is because it's become oligarchic. The system we have is an oligarchy, and what happens is that to run an average congressional campaign, because I grew up in Texas, in like, say like Texas, regardless of what party you're in, it's gonna be a seven-figure affair minimum. You have to probably be you have to be able to raise like minimum, like one to two million. I'm talking a congressional seat. That's just like the House, the Senate, you're looking at in the tens of millions, possibly nowadays, especially in a decade from now, it's probably gonna be in the hundreds, in the low hundreds of millions. And like gubernatorial situations the same. Because of this, favors either rich people, like people that can that are that can self-finance their campaigns, or people that are willing to kiss the feet of oligarchical donors. And this prevents the this it immediately filters out the interests of labor unions, people of like modest means, and any other group that doesn't have deep pockets. And that's why people always complain, whether it's people on the so-called MAGA right or people like in the Bernie sphere on the like the left, the Democrat sphere, that complain that they don't get like any of like the measures they want. And it's actually as an uncomfortable truth, is that the political class that you have that's supposedly representing you, it's actually not representing you, it's representing a donor class or corporate interest because of the way the system is structured now, where it is practically impossible to run for office at the federal level because it's just it's cost prohibitive. You have to have like very minimum, maybe high six figures, but you're probably have to have like a trend uh a war campaign war test that's in the low millions. And even at the state, at the state level, it's still a bit accessible, but in some states as well that are electorally important, that trend is also taking place. And as the system has become very alienating to people as a result.

SPEAKER_00: 8:56

Yep. You know, this is why I agree when the progressives say this, but not just for the progressive sake, but for all Americans' sake. Yeah, if we could get rid of money out of politics, get rid of dark money, I'm all I'm all for it because of that alienation that you mentioned. I mean, you're not the first guest to say that, but I actually, I mean, people get your head out, you know, get your head out of the sand. This is a major obstacle, especially for some elections, that you got to deal with, especially if you run. I give respect to you if you run, even if you lose miserably. I give respect to you because you're trying to challenge the system. Well, that's the obstacle you have to deal with. People with big pockets, they pick, they pick them someone who will lick their feet and say, okay, you oh, you serve my interests. Okay. I'm gonna give you a hundred thousand. And then I'll add and I'll spend another money on throwing negative ad campaigns against the one who wants to fight for the people, you know, through PACs and all that good stuff, you know. And this is just, I mean, I give a shout out to Jeff Ward, even though he ran state and local elections, but a lot of this applies to the federal. I think if any, if anything more egregiously, I think that's the only um difference. That's why, you know, Washington, D.C. they said that's for the elite. And I agree. I mean, you you just gotta pay attention. It doesn't take a genius to figure these things out. Pay attention and stop being in your little social media ecosystem or bubble. Okay. Or for the or for the older audience, stop being brainwashed by cable. Yeah. Yeah. You know that that that's I'm gonna say about that. We talked about the money on the both the DNC and RNC. And I mean, the only thing I'm gonna add for the Democrat side is we don't see a clear leader frontly, even though to Gavin Newsom's credit, if you will, that he's trying to be the front runner by out trying to out troll Trump through social media, has gained a bit of attention in polls. Have he got a boost on that? But how long that's gonna last? Is that gonna carry over? Is that gonna translate to a 2028 victory? I doubt it. You have to be a lot more than a social media troll.

SPEAKER_01: 11:00

Yeah. Uh, I'd also add that um the state of California, it's in a pretty bad shape. And having Newsom at the helm, it's gonna be very easy to attack. And the all that if Republicans are smart, they could easily just point to that because California's just become like very unaffordable. They've had tons of uh trouble setting up like a basic right light rail system, like statewide right light rail system, and has very high taxes, and a lot of people are leaving the state too. And the problem with guys like Newsom is I see them as part of the as just the so-called left wing of the oligarchical class that's in control there. And the issue I feel with the current system is that it needs people that are like truly outside that whole paradigm because Democrats and Republicans, we think they have their own unique set of problems. For one thing, I grew up in Texas and was very involved in the Republican Party there. And um, my issue with them has always been that the Republican Party, since the Reagan, Ronald Reagan Revolution, has just been slavishly devoted to high finance and big corporations, especially the latter. And as a result, like Republicans will boast about, oh, we just got all these Californians flocking to our state because obviously California policies have failed. Unfortunately, Republicans are creating their own set of problems now that like with all these people flaw uh fleeing to red states, these red states are starting to become very unaffordable and they're also becoming too welcoming of these mega corporations that have very questionable corporate practices. So you're just repeating the same old cycle because there was one point where people were moving to California en masse in the earlier 20th century, and also places like New York, for example. But now the issue I feel in the United States is that people are too buried to the idea of the gross domestic product, the GDP, and economic growth, as opposed to like policies that promote like stable family formation, um social bonds, and like uh labor power and workers' rights and all of that. I just find that we there's not many answers on either side of the aisle, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_00: 13:31

Yeah, you point out something that I have even alluded to several times. We are too focused on money and to the point that we are just neglecting all the other issues, like you said, the social issues, you know, workers' rights. I agree. I'm not gonna argue um against that. We've been hyper-focused on just gross domestic product, screw everything else. And and and I I've seen that with the Republic. I mean, even Florida is another example. I think certain parts of it has become unfortunate because a lot of people flock there from New York in particular. Oh, 100%. Yeah. So, you know, the same thing you say about California, Texas, it's a similar situation.

SPEAKER_01: 14:10

It's across the sunbelt red states. Yeah, that's a dynamic. The problem, I think, here, see, this is what I critique a lot of Republicans about, is that their policies, the if you have like the right connections and you have the right uh university degree, it's good for the individual. Like that's actually undeniable. If you're a part of like if you're a striver that wants to get their money, it's really good from a selfish standpoint, but from a community standpoint, whether it's actually not that good because the current economic system in the United States, it favors parasitism, it favors the parasite as opposed to like the producer or the person or like the worker ultimately. It favors like we have like a highly financialized economic system that honestly functions more like a casino. And this cre like people should be able to get their money, but it needs to be like sustainable. You you don't want to be living in like a system where it feels like you're in a constant rat race, where if like when you your paycheck grows, but then you start realizing your food costs, your housing costs, and everything else starts growing. And yeah, as you mentioned with Florida, you're seeing the same issue as well, like in Texas, where yeah, you're getting a lot of economic activity, but everything's getting unaffordable. The housing's getting unaffordable, a lot of other stuff, and the it's a hamster wheel economy at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_00: 15:35

Oh, no, I agree. I love that now. I love that it is run like a casino. Yep. Just take, take, take, take, take your money. That's how the casinos make money, right? Gamble, gamble, gamble. You have a whole lot of losers and a very few winners. I mean, that's how they sustain themselves. I mean, just do simple math, people. You can just do on the scale of a million, a billion, a trillion, whatever. You know, you have you need to have a lot of losers. Doesn't have that, you know, sustain. That's how the casino makes his money. I mean, that's just basic mathematics. And look, and I suck at math, people. So you know, a lot, you know, after a lot of losers, they keep some of that profit. Okay, we're gonna give one, okay, we make a billion. Probably gonna give a million to this winner and this winner and that winner.

SPEAKER_01: 16:18

Success stories they want you to like fixate about, but in reality, that's like it's a crapshoot where like for every success like people will boast about, there's at least like 5,000 other failures. That's like that's what they don't want to tell you. That's what the system does not want to tell you. That's the whole American dream mythos now, where that's what keeps the system going. It's the illusion that you'll be like prosperous, you'll hit the jackpot. But when reality, for every person that hits the jackpot, you can find like 10,000 others that not make it.

SPEAKER_00: 16:51

Yeah. I mean, doing basic math, you could debunk that illusion. Forget politics, forget all of that. Just do basic math.

SPEAKER_01: 16:58

Just look at trends, look at the numbers and look at trends. Yeah. If you do that, like ignore the um my big thing is uh ignore the noise and look at the signals. The signals are in the economic studies that you see in Pew Research, Allop, and a lot of think tanks that has that show like these these numbers, these trends and all that. When you look at those trends, you start to realize the system is actually like screwed. It's rigged against you. Like going back to the casino, the house always wins.

SPEAKER_00: 17:30

Exactly. People in the comment section, you want to argue against the house always wins? Go right ahead. Show your stupidity. I'm all for it. But just remember, YouTube will cancel you. Rumble, not so much. You'll eventually hit rumble. Maybe a week or two later, after it's released on YouTube, then you can shout crazy. You call me whatever stupid name, I'm just gonna laugh. I mean, call names before, and I'm perfectly okay. All right? It's it reflects on you, not me. All right. I'm just trying to give you stuff, make you informative, and sometimes uncomfortable to make you inform because it's gonna challenge your little bubble. And you know, I don't care. I'm the I'm like that naughty kid, likes to poke in the bubble, and I enjoy it. I get a kick out of it. Like, hee hee hee. I enjoy popping a bubble of echo chamber, stupid think tank. I enjoy doing that personally. I I get a kick out of it. That's why I just keep doing it. It's a little dopamine hit for me. I I know it's not like an addict, but it's like a little kick out of poop, challenge your your thinking. Because I I want you to do better. In a weird way, I kind of care. Even though my methods could be harsh sometimes, trolling, sometimes, you know. But at the end of the day, you need to be informed, people. I believe in informing, even if it's uncomfortable, even if it means touching the uh the controversial stuff, all right? So enough. So enough about that. So the and the Republicans, don't think I'm gonna say, even though they've been winning, they do dominate, I think, especially state. I think there's more Republican states than blue states, if I'm gonna be honest. Like by a little bit. I think it's like two or three more, if I'm not mistaken. And that's gonna matter. And that that matters, all right, especially in um some of the races, especially when it comes to the what is this thing called? Oh, the convention of states. Yeah. Where they change, ratify things in a federal level, especially pushing a new amendment. You need you need 75% of the country that equates to 38 states. So you're gonna have to go through the blue hurdle one way or another, especially if it's a policy perceived to favor the right. Let's just say perceived. It might not be, it doesn't matter, but once people perceive or think that way, they're gonna they're gonna be antagonistic or they're gonna be supportive. Some voters are informed, and some voters are just not informed. I believe in informing the voter, and that's and and that's what we need to do. So how the Republicans are, I don't think they're not doing that great because they got a thin majority, both the House and the Senate, even though they got a lot of, you know, the war chess is pretty good, but it's gonna take definitely a lot more than a war chess just to win, right? You need like persuasive voices and campaign strategies. I mean, what say you?

SPEAKER_01: 20:16

Yeah, so the thin majorities, especially in the House, and even with these states, even though Republicans do have advantages in terms of the states controlled, they'll never be able to like have like full domination of state governments in the U.S. The country is just too polarized, and the polarization is what's by design because that's what creates these thin majorities, which make the country absolutely ungovernable. And even independent researchers have noticed this since the end of the Cold War, 1991, as a reference point, dissolution of the Soviet Union. The US has actually not been able to pass many reforms that have like benefited working class Americans. You could argue maybe Obamacare, and even that's a stretch because I personally don't think that even addresses like the root causes of like a lot of the healthcare issues. But like the US doesn't really pass a lot of laws that benefit workers. When it does pass laws, it's generally to serve oligarchical interests, whether it's like increasing funding for the military, defending Zionist interests abroad, or passing laws that benefit the financial class and all that. The US political system is not responsive. And with regards to the Republican role, with how the advantage they have, the thing is, Democrats pursue a lot of unpopular policies, like some of the woke stuff, or even they sometimes also pursue a lot of pro-finance policies as well, because the financial institutions have their have sunk their fangs into both parties. And as a result, you create this very predictable cycle every 10 to 12 years where people will vote the bums out, and then like they'll elect, like, say, like the Democrats, like in the Obama era, they actually like were pretty dominant. And then after like eight years or so, Democrats become unpopular, then Republicans get in office, and then they're in power for a bit, and then like they become unpopular and they get voted out, rinse, lather, repeat. And that's the whole system, the poor this polar, this artificial polarization. It's a feature, not a bug, of the present political order because oligarchs want you to be like arguing about like the latest Sydney Sweeney ad and other outrages of the of the week because they don't want you to talk about how like the whole system is hyper-financialized. They don't want you to talk about how people are getting micro loans just to buy like pizzas and stuff and all this stuff. And then they don't want you to talk about how it's like impossible for people to buy like their first house or start a family and all of that because of how expensive everything is getting. And that's like the system's needest trick is artificial polarization.

SPEAKER_00: 23:08

Yeah, you know, I have noticed that. Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna argue against that because it is true. Yeah, they got well, one cycle is Democrats, great, Republicans suck, and the next cycle is vice versa. It keeps going and going and going. It's like a psychos wind swiper. Uh to the left, to the right, to the left.

SPEAKER_01: 23:27

It's like that, like a pendulum as well.

SPEAKER_00: 23:29

Like a pendulum, yeah. That's an analogy. I'm sure you use a nice of a pendulum swing. I think like a medieval thing that swings like that, but it but but it fits. It it's very applicable. So I'm not gonna not gonna um argue against that. I mean, it's that you'll get it's a it's a cycle, people. That's been a few. Oh, psychopathical. So you know that that's that that's that's the main point. And just make sure, you know, especially those of you who are politically brainwashed, and join this MAGA wave while you can. It's gonna eventually go back to the Democrats at some point, and vice, you know, vice versa. So there's some highs and lows of both of y'all, even though I think y'all both silly, to be honest. But hey, that's just an independent guy just talking to the mic and a couple of well-informed people, okay? So, you know, the uh even though the Republicans are winning, I just think they're not at the supreme advantage, even though some of them project that. I was like, no, if you look at the numbers, it's like barely 51 here, 55% here. I said the Democrats could easily flip that if you continue to, you know, uh push on popular stuff, which they're gonna do anyways, because they gotta they want to you know benefit the financiers and the oligarchy. And a lot of them have said that. Ah, you know, like I said, kissing the feet. I mean, that's true. If you want easy campaign money, you know, oh, I'm gonna support, you know, let's use the APAC. A very good way, very prominent example. Oh, I'm pro-Israel, you know, I Israel has the right to exist and defend itself. They, you know, they the reason why they bomb is because they want to make sure they kill the Hamas people, even though a lot of innocents have died along the way. That's the truth. A lot of is a lot of needless bloodshed. Let's be honest. I know I'm gonna be called anti-Semite. I don't care. I never said blow up, I never say destroy the Jewish states. I know they they got the right to exist too. Two-state solution. I want it to be a possibility. That's supposed to be the American official position, but you know, look where the money is at. We overwhelmingly fund Israel's military. So we gotta look where the money is, just like you said, that's the noise. What we say, what we do is a different thing. And we have to give a lot of money, we have to give a lot of money to Israel to continue to engage in this conflict, doing done a lot of damage to Gaza. And don't get me wrong, Jews should have not been killed either. October 7th was completely wrong. I can argue against that. You know, that's just terrorists, it was barbarous, filthy. But good, but you know, but fight fire with more fire, uh, not the right way either. I mean, I opinion two slave solutions should happen. But um, what's your insight on Israel that many people, I mean, both, I mean, for those who are just uninitiated, the obvious, and maybe there could be things that we are not aware of about the Israel-Hamas conflict.

SPEAKER_01: 26:19

I think that conflict is inevitable because of the simple fact that Israel is a Jewish supremacist state that is that is firmly backed by the United States government and its um todes in Europe, NATO and all these institutions, and that this is a state that's based on ethnic cleansing and domination of the indigenous Palestinian people that have lived there for multiple generations, if not centuries, in the on those lands. And I've long argued that yes, that the US should be defunding Israel, cutting off military aid, economic aid, and stop giving it diplomatic cover and move to some type of arrangement, whether it's like a two-state solution or whatever. But that ultimately I think the US cannot be complicit in this. Basically, like what is a mass ethnic cleansing campaign right now that's taking place in Gaza and it's gonna eventually go to the West Bank as well. And that a two-state solution is fine. But I believe that ultimately the biggest enabler of this conflict has been the United States government and the many institutions from nonprofit organizations, the media, financial institutions that continue to parrot this pro-Zionist Jewish supremacist line that Israel has to dominate this, not just the Palestinians, but also the broader Middle East. And our foreign policy in the Middle East basically serves Israeli interests and doesn't take into account actual American interests, which I argue should be to go away from the Middle East and focus more at home, and if not like really like the Western hemisphere. But the problem I see with a lot of people is that they are very much wedded into the notions, the very limited window of acceptable opinion about this conflict where these pro-Zionist forces try to stifle any dissent. And I think it's very important to understand the history of like the Jewish state and its formation and its continued oppression of the Palestinians, and it's also disproportionate influence over US politics. If you want to understand how we to solve this problem altogether, which I believe requires non-interventionism and the U.S. government just getting out of the Middle East and stop picking favorites there altogether.

SPEAKER_00: 28:54

I know for those of you who are pro-Jewish state, might be ruffled and offended by it. You know, there's a comment section. Express how this host is allowing to platform this guy or how crazy he is, you know, just put it in the put in the comment section. But remember, if you do on YouTube, it's like a landmine. You touch a certain spot, you're done. But where it's gonna go to rumble, ironically, I hate using this term, it's kind of like a safe space in a sense because you're not gonna deal with that kind of censorship like YouTube. Let's be brutally honest. It's a sanctuary. I put it on Rumble where you could say that this host is crazy, or Jose is somehow anti-Semite. Well, that's not anti-Semi, he's just stating facts and analysis for what it is. Anti semi is like saying, Oh, Jewish people got a funny nose. That's anti Semitic. All right, that's an example of real anti Semitism. Just stop using this word brawley. This is this is the similar crap that I've criticized the cancel culture nonsense, the woke nonsense. You gotta speak a certain way. Piss off. Don't tell me how to talk. Those are these dumb young college kids I don't know life trying to tell me how to talk. I have a lot more life experience than you, bro. Do you even know what hardship is? No, you don't. What you now do is shout like a freaking child. You haven't grown up. There's some young people that have, and I respect those. But those of you just go to college campuses, just shout nonsense because you just hate it. No, that you're a child. I don't respect you. Okay? And that does come from one camp more than the other. We know which one is which listeners and viewers. Alright. So I had to get that out. And I mean anything else you want to add to the Israel and the Hamas thing, because I actually I that analysis is actually profound.

SPEAKER_01: 30:44

The issue here is that um it's not like a question of whether one supports like a Palestinian state or like an Israel or like a Jewish state. Really, I'd say like if you want to have like a Jewish state, go ahead and marshal your resources, your independent resources and all that, but don't rely on the U.S. government to constantly subsidize and provide arms to your state and provide it diplomatic cover, the United Nations. Like assume the consequences of your domestic and geopolitical actions against the Palestinians in the broader Middle East, because that's how like any like truly sovereign state would function. And yeah, with regard regards to like the Hamas conflict, Hamas is just the latest iteration of resistance that Israel is going to face because of the fact that they um engage in ethnic cleansing and dispossession of Palestinian people. And it's naive to think that they're not gonna face pushback, no matter how um nasty that pushback could be. Like the nature of building states and civilizations is actually historically a really bloody affair. And like almost a lot of states are based on that, on some type of supremacy. My issue with it is that like we see excessive Zionist control of US politics and media, and as a result, we are constantly on the hook, both financially and in terms of military obligations, to advancing Israeli interests in the Middle East. And I think that's not like acceptable, especially if the US wants to be like a self-respecting country that promotes human rights and national sovereignty.

SPEAKER_00: 32:18

Well said right there. Well said. Well, I got nothing else to add because I'll be regurgitating and I don't like to regurgitate unless I think it's too damn important. But you know, let the media regurgitate. I know there's a lot of people talking about this, so I want to save my breath and just switch to Ukraine. That's another one that we got our issues. And let me just say this real quick, just read one point. The Dems are split with Israel. Republicans are more split with Ukraine. Anything else you want to add for the Ukraine and all of all of that? Me, I've been like a mix. I say, yeah, I don't think we should have evolved Ukraine, but what if we weren't? I'm a little iffy on that one. I never had a clearer stance on that one.

SPEAKER_01: 33:02

I've always been of the opinion that, like I've said before, um, the US needs to foreign policy needs to be more focused on the Western hemisphere and domestic affairs. Russia, Ukraine, in my opinion, has the product of the US expanding NATO and it's and also just broader influence in territories across Eastern Europe that have a stor that Russia historically has either dominated or tried to like maintain a sphere of influence. And spheres of influence are pretty much a natural part of geopolitics. We've all uh the United States has always had a sphere of influence in the Western Hemisphere from Mexico all the way down to South America. It's the Monroe Doctrine, where the tacit agreement was that the US would not interfere in the affairs of European powers in the 19th century, so long as those European powers would not interfere in the affairs of Latin American countries or countries in the Western Hemisphere. That's a good compromise. But the US is a global imperium now. It's an empire that's globally that wants to have its influence everywhere. And as a result, it's going to cause conflicts, whether it's with Russia in Eastern Europe, Iran in the Middle East, or China increasingly in East Asia. And I've um always been against these type of endeavors because I think they only breed conflict. They become a huge boon for the military-industrial complex and the nonprofit organization sphere that's always trying to launch regime change operations in these areas. And I'm against that. I think that we need to start thinking more in the interior because we have a ton of problems. And I don't want these parasitic entities, whether they're defense contractors or these NGO regime change agents continuing to live off of the taxpayer dime or deciphing resources, productive resources from the American population.

SPEAKER_00: 34:57

You know what? That's an easy argument. You know what? I could agree with that because we do got a crap ton of problems domestically. You know, America internally is being neglected because of these geopolitical interests. I mean, who could argue against that? That's our left-wing and right-wing talking point. I think that's a clear, most objective analysis, you know, without getting to the nitty-gritties of each of them. I mean, me, I mean, me, now I'm more towards I wish we we shouldn't have conflict with Ukraine, and I guess we should we expanded the NATO influence too much. I did looked into that. I said, oh, I say during the Obama terms, we were getting three countries in Eastern Europe. And they know that really not to say Russia, you know, it's a good guy or anything, but that caused them to be to be outraged. It's like, you know what, I'm going to start the war. Screw it. Not saying it's right. This is cause and effect kind of thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 36:00

Geopolitics is not about right or wrong. It's more about what is and what is not. You have to like look at it value-free and how states objectively act to advance their interests. Because when you start like going into moralizing about geopolitics, it will lead you down a road where your instinct is to like intervene everywhere. And like, let's face it, the US has very limited resources, got its own host of problems domestically, and we just don't have that. I also think um it's really none of our business. I take it, I um I still have like a vestigial libertarian tendency where I just think that um the US shouldn't be interfering in the affairs of foreign countries, period. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 36:43

Hey, look, I don't mind libertarian, you know, this is one of the things I'm agreeing with more libertarians on, believe it or not. Before, if I'm gonna be honest, I thought this was a crazy third party that I would never agree with them almost anything. Listen to more carefully, giving them a fair shot, which initially I didn't. I was like, uh, you're a little too crazy. I'd rather deal with you know these other two established parties. No, but when it comes to war, I think the libertarian camp is winning me over. It just makes the most sense. You know, it makes the most sense. I just think if you're gonna fight a war, it has to be based on Sally's interests. I mean, I wish it was on morality, but let's be real. All nations got its own interests and they make decisions based on what they think is best for their government and their people. It's as simple as that. You know, reason why some alliances last longer, it's not because they like each other, it's because of similar interests. Hold on, no, nothing unite make creates an alliance like a common enemy. Nothing creates an alliance faster than a common enemy. Okay? I'm just gonna keep saying that because that is true even in geopolitics. If a lot of them see, I mean, let's just use this. I'm gonna use this lazy example. Russia's a common enemy. You create alliances because a lot of them don't like Russia. They see Russia as a threat, or China, you know, Iran, or North Korea. North Korea's been they they kind of obscure to the background recently. I'd say for years now. I think ever since the COVID thing, North Korea is sad is is irrelevant when it comes to um current events for the most part, unless you go to the you dig deep to the sites that were that would focus on that. I mean, this is great, this is this great stuff I'm hearing. Is it groundbreaking? Sometimes I think we I think sometimes we should be reminded about what is instead of what's right and what's wrong. I mean, is this wrong to evade a nation paper? It's true. All civilizations are building bloodshed. That's true, even America. Yeah. I mean, I mean that's the while digging deep. The American Revolution, very bloody. While digging too deep, you can even dig deeper for the other conflicts. That was a big one, okay? A lot of people died. Alright? I mean, all all a lot of nations, it was based on tribal warfare and all of that. Go to any continent. Asian countries, African countries, South American countries, and you know, and some, you know, sometimes a foreign invader, you know, the colonists, you could add that in there as well as a common theme. That's how they all formed. I wish they didn't. You're gonna use my little naive innocent hat, a little bit of innocence I got left. But, you know, people are gonna do what they need to do. So create civilizations based on economic um interests or for control, what have you. That's sadly that's that's the flaw part of the human condition. And unless we don't change that, I think I think if we change that, I think we're no longer human. Unless all of us become spirit, you know, dig into spirituality, I think that's the only way that's gonna be cured. You know, maybe, and that's maybe. But I think that's the best solution I could think of so far. Hopefully something better comes along the way. Well, talking about that, can we prevent a World War III or is it just too late?

SPEAKER_01: 39:59

Ooh, that was a tough question. Yeah, it in theory, yes. If you get the right people not just elected, but also in like the advisory roles in the government, like for foreign policy, you can prevent it. But it seems like things are definitely coming to a head, but at the same time, the US is facing a lot of problems, even with its military-industrial base, which is actually kind of ironic because despite how much money it spends on it, they're getting issues with like basic like missile defense shortages. Like, for example, during the Iran-Israel conflict, one of the reasons Israel had to like set up a ceasefire with Iran was that the US's like missile interceptor systems were actually being depleted to the point where they could not like really adequately supply them because also they're providing a lot of these systems of missile defense to Ukraine. So there's like a big military-industrial complex type of crisis happening in the US, and that might actually ironically prevent it from getting into World War III. But the US still has a vast amount of resources, so you can't you can never put it past the parasites ruling over us to try to pull that off. But things aren't really looking that stable on the horizon, in my opinion, in international affairs, so they might play out like in a more it might be of a more delayed effect. But I think things are trending towards some type of conflict, either with Russia, Iran, or China. Or also or simultaneously. Like, and that will give you a world war scenario because a lot of the um the these world war situations they tend to pop off whenever you have like a global hegemon, like the United States trying to beef with a lot of countries. And when US is beefing of China, Russia, and Iran, that actually creates the conditions for those three countries to actually kind of like click up, if you will, and build their own like rival bloc. You kind of see that already with the so-called BRICS, Brazil, Russia, India, China alignment that's grown in prominence in recent years.

SPEAKER_00: 42:07

Yeah, let's not forget South Africa and five other nations that are part of the South Africa too. Yep.

SPEAKER_01: 42:12

Yes, yep. Yep.

SPEAKER_00: 42:13

Yep, and um Yeah, and that's the thing that we gotta pay attention to. I mean, look, this may be frightening for some of you, but I prefer I'd rather be a frightened, informed person than a happy idiot that's gonna be ambushed with a bomb blowing me up to spith of reads. I'd rather be fearful with the knowledge that I have. I'd rather be a happy, ignorant idiot that all of a sudden a bomb hits and then I'm scared for my life, and I'll probably have a trauma that's gonna last for almost forever. I mean, a little dramatic, but I'd rather be an informed individual. So I can be alert and know what to do as opposed to just, I don't know, bury your head in the sand or just live in La La Land. This is not Disney people. This is not Disney Fantasia crap people. Wake up! It's not feeding delusion people, wake up, okay? I know it's not like uh alt-right to some of you, but you gotta pay attention to these things. These things impact us one way or another. It's not obvious, but we gotta pay attention to these things. I'd rather keep you informed than scared. Rather keep you or are, you know, instead of you know just keeping you like a happy idiot. I'd rather be an informed, scared individual than the happy idiot that's not aware of anything. Maybe that's why you people are not stressed out. Maybe it's why I'm growing a little bit of white hairs. Oh well. I'd rather be alert and live, alright? So that's all I'm gonna say about that. And you know what? Anything else you wanna add before we wrap this? I think that's all on my end for the most part. Okay, my listeners and viewers, my high IQ people, check out Jose Nino. He does got a podcast, and some topics he dives into are actually fascinating, and it's not from a left-right perspective. I've listened to two episodes and it's some fascinating stuff. He got all kinds of people in there talking about different issues. Some are controversial. You're thick-skinned, you're intelligent. You don't let childish emotions ruin your thinking, right? You don't let it just make you afraid or make you a cry baby's because you're hearing different opinions. Just because of different opinions, doesn't mean it's not true. You know, people have different opinions. I mean, why what? Everyone to believe the same thing? That's that's an authoritarian government. Oh, you're forced to believe the same thing, all right? Okay, well, you know, let's just say an alternative universe, China somehow dominates America. You want a Xi Xing Ping puppet there? If you say the wrong thing, you're screwed. You better have the right opinion, okay? You want that? You want that? Huh? Huh? No, people with different opinions, as annoying as it is, that's a much better system than having a government telling us you gotta believe in this and that, big belly Buddha's God, okay? You all gotta learn Chinese, okay? And if you don't, you'll be exterminated, you'll be treated like the Uyghurs. Okay? Worse. 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