308-Preserving Legacies Through AI-Powered Storytelling with Peyton Wilfley

Peyton Wilfrey joins us to discuss All Tales, his innovative platform making book creation accessible and affordable for everyone through AI assistance while preserving meaningful stories.

• Recently launched all-in-one book creation platform streamlining writing, illustration, formatting, and printing
• Motivated by desire to create legacy and preserve family stories for future generations
• Tackles the problem of expensive book creation that typically costs thousands of dollars
• Currently focused on picture storybook format with plans to expand capabilities
• Research shows children with knowledge of family history develop stronger self-identity
• Platform helps combat information overload by encouraging meaningful story preservation
• Used creatively for wedding guest books that tell couples' stories
• Provides free family tree consultation services to help people discover their ancestry
• Emphasizes AI as an assistant rather than replacement for human creativity
• Currently US-focused with plans for careful global expansion respecting local laws

Follow Peyton Wilfley at ...

His website

https://www.alltales.com/

YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/@AllTalesOfficial

TikTok

https://www.tiktok.com/@alltales

Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction and Guest Background
• 5:13 Legacy Building and Personal Stories
• 10:07 The Importance of Family History
• 17:29 Historical Context and Modern Perspective
• 26:03 Information Overload and Decision Paralysis
• 36:52 All Tales Platform and Practical Applications
• 44:33 AI as Assistant in Storytelling
• 48:47 Closing Thoughts and Final Plugs

Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:14

Welcome everyone to politically high tech with your host, Elias. I you know, I gotta say I'm happy I've been getting a lot of new guests. And I'm gonna kind of talk crap on some of the old guests here. Yeah, just a little bit. A little bit. That they haven't been as reliable. And the positive side of me say they're busy. And nine out of ten times they are. And they're just few that just gives me idiotic things. Say, oh, reach back to me later. I said, I'm a very busy person. You either you either respond ASAP or or we get disconnected. And I mean, some of you could complain this is me being a snobby New Yorker. Part of it is true. Operate minute a minute. You either get, I need a decision, I need a decision. And especially when I know it shouldn't be complicated, I expect a quick answer. But if something complicated, I will give time, okay? But look, I could I could rant about me, how I am, how I operate, and how I talk. If I know something simple, and if you want to give such a political, wishy-washy answer, I say, eh, there's plenty of people who wants to do this. I I I I don't need you. Yeah, you know, some of you could say good things about it. I mean, I call it respecting my time. Okay. And some of you is gonna think, oh, that's snobby, be a little more graceful. And that ain't easy. Okay. And if you're holding the lineup or you're just being in the way, you will get instant feedback. And some of it's not gonna be pleasant. Just some of you, you know, some things to think about if you want to decide to tour around the city, even though tourism has decreased significantly, because Times Square used to be very crowded. It was very easy to walk through. So you could blame Trump, you can blame whatever. I'll even blame local government. I think it just so I think overall it's just the climate, the global climate, um, as well. Um, especially the tariffs. Look, uh, I could I could rant about it, but I'm sure somebody's gonna tell me to shut up and get straight to the thing. And I am going to do that. For once, I'm just gonna agree with you. I know some of you are kind of impatient like me, so let me stop being a uh two-minute hypocrite right here. So I have a guest here. And you know, I have create not I have some people have stereotypes of AI tech people, they're nerdy, they're socially awkward, they are lanky, they're physically weak. The guest I got here uh he has a football background, so he will tackle you in half. Oh, now I'm just insta gate. I'm starting stuff. Okay, let me stop. I I I no nah nah. He now I'm just kidding, right there. But he he could have been the next A-list quarterback. Let's just say that. I was gonna say Tom Brady, but I think that's even a little too crazy, even for me, thinking about it. And he does got, you know, the first name of a certain Manning, okay? Well, I'm gonna say it. And I'm not a I'm not a sports person unless you invite me to the house. I could ease against the sports, learn some of their system, but the advanced stuff don't, it's hopeless. Just don't bother, just don't waste your time with that. Uh I know about how the three-point, the one-point, the touchdown, that stuff works. We're talking about the the tactics and all of that. I'm just gonna choose to have ADHD on purpose on you, because I don't give a rat's behind. So we have Pilt Peyton Wilfred here, and he is the co-founder. It's a good thing I researched this. I was gonna think he was the founder of the whole darn thing. He has called he has the other um person as well, but he ain't here, so we're just gonna deal with let's just be real, though. The real the boss, the boss that matters the most, the CEO, okay? That's that's look, all companies have a CEO, even some small, well, not small businesses. They just got well, just a boss, an owner, right? That's that's how it is. So let's welcome Peyton Wilfrey. And the first question I ask most of my guests is what do you want the viewers and listeners to know about?

SPEAKER_01: 4:18

Dude, well, thanks a lot. I appreciate being on. That was a great introduction there. Um yeah, dude, I appreciate you having me on a lot. And just in regards to the football thing, definitely was not the next A-list quarterback. I did play quarterback. I was good in high school and I was mediocre in junior college. So we're okay, we're good. I definitely wasn't the next biggest thing. I loved it, but we moved on. But anyways, sorry, I I am a rancher here. So what I want people to kind of the question was like, what I would want to know, what people know about me, is that what you're saying? So about myself, I would say that I would want everyone to see me as kind trying to make something for the world that I can be proud of. I want to make it to where when I am spoken about by my grandkids, great-grandkids, I want them to brag about me. I don't want them to be just like, oh yeah, that's my grandpa. I want them to be like, oh, let me tell you about my grandpa. So everything I do in life, not for some sort of selfish, like egotistical sake, but I I see that as a measure of, did you do something important if your family brags about you? And so I brag about many of my members of my family. And so it's just it, I want to be someone, I want to do something in life that is worth being bragged about by others, but not not like the for to keep the football references going a little bit, but not like Richard Sherman, where I'm the one saying, I'm the best, you know, like I want other people too in my family to be proud that they are related to me.

SPEAKER_00: 5:43

That's fair enough. Legacy building, right there, right? You know, and you know, and I do, you know, this reminds me of this meme, you know, about the grandpa. One of them, you know, he was a World War II vet, someone to be very proud of. Legacy building, and then to the right is my grandpa. He has like freaking dog filters and all that. That was my grandpa. And you can make the comparisons if you're traditional mind, and one is legacy building, and one of them, I'm just gonna call it mean building or silly building, and I'm pretty sure you're gonna be pretty forgettable. So Payton does not want to be the latter, he wants to be the former. All right. Let's just let me just bring us a little bit of the younger folks here. I mean, my youngest, my generation, and Gen Z. Alpha, you're not allowed yet.

unknown: 6:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 6:32

You know, yeah, yeah, continue to be interesting. Let me just say it like that. They're interesting. You know, and and forget about the beta. They're they're the old babies. So don't worry about it. Just continue to be adorable or a pain in the neck to your parents. The beta.

SPEAKER_01: 6:51

Beta's are the ones being born right now, right? Yep. Okay, so I I just my I have a beta then. My wife and I just we have a three-month-old, so I guess she's gen beta. I didn't really think about that. It's gen beta. Okay, interesting.

SPEAKER_00: 7:00

Yeah, it's more of it's more of a media concept. I don't know where I'm able to keep up with it. It's probably we love categorizing. We love categorizing. Yeah, it's a human thing. You're right. It is such a human thing. We love categorizing. Yeah, it literally started this year.

SPEAKER_02: 7:15

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 7:15

So, yeah. So anyone from New Year's of 2025 to the present, that's that's beta. And they're just our new, adorable newborns. Alrighty then, but you didn't come, I'm sure you didn't want to listen to about generations and all that. So you already kind of answered what inspired you to start it the all tales. And and I know some things you want to tackle as well, like the problems, right? That making the book is expensive. It's true. I I searched for several agencies that are good at making books. On average, they cost thousands of dollars just to have them write it, sorted, have the cover, the art, all of that. You're absolutely right about that. And this is you know, this is recent knowledge, and you're trying to streamline that, make that, I would say, pretty affordable. And I would say that that that's definitely a problem, especially those who want to be new publishers, and some people can't tell their stories because they have access to it. I mean, let's just go back in history. I'm sure there's a lot of history untold because they didn't know how to tell a story, they didn't know how to write a story, they didn't know how to preserve the story.

SPEAKER_01: 8:28

Oh, you know, in a way. I live I live out here in East Tennessee, and there's a lot of cemeteries, like with the church, and so you see so many just thousands of graves on the 10-minute drive. Sometimes it's seen just because there's a cemetery on every corner. And it's just so many of those people like are unfortunately going to be forgotten other than their name on a gravestone somewhere because 99% of people don't know how to adequately preserve their their story. And even the most mundane story to you, when you if you think that your life story is mundane or whatever the story is, I find someone in your life is going to find it absolutely fascinating. Whether it's someone in your life who's alive today or someone a few generations down the road going, holy crap, they live in 2025. My grandpa thought this about the current events that were happening. Like, it matters. You know, people will find it interesting.

SPEAKER_00: 9:12

That's what I guess. So it's not, it's definitely not an egotistical goal. I mean, look, if you want to disagree, there's a comment section right here. Just remember that if you get censored, you'll blame down YouTube, not me. I I support free speech unless, you know, unless you said death to ABCD. You recently went through a political violent event, so let's be extra cognizant of that, you know, extra aware of it. So let's calm that crap down a bit. Um, I don't care where you are politically. This is this is a human thing. This is right and wrong kind of thing here. This is not how we should tackle this problem. I love those debates, like solution, you know, debate about solutions or something about political violence. That's something I'm interested in. Instead of just, oh, this person was evil, you got a coming. Or something like, oh, he was an ex coming of Jesus. They both were cringeworthy to me. They both are exaggerated to me. All right, so maybe tackling political violence will be something more interesting. But I'm not gonna make this overly political because it can be historical and it's definitely gonna be technical, okay? But it's not gonna be overly um political. And sadly, that's just uh that's just where America's at. Some people just can't take different opinions, and and I say I'm gonna say this again, and I don't care this, I don't care if I re uh I can't even talk now. I don't care if I have to repeat this ad nauseum. This agreement does not equal hate. You just have a different opinion, challenging ideas, okay? Even worse, you know, with other incendiary weapons. You know, I'm gonna use vague terms on purpose. All right, so that's all I'm gonna say about that. Now I got probably somewhat of a silly question. Can you create a history book? I know it's the purpose is around you know capturing special events and family and you know stories about them. Um but if someone wants to make a history book, I don't know, about let's see, what is something I don't get talked about a lot in America? Well, you talk about the Gilded Age a bunch of times. Or you I'm sure I'm sure our person-centered story is possible. Um can songs come with a new, I don't know, his history book that talks about you know, some you know, it does have to be a personal you know. I know personally you could do that, so I'm not gonna ask that kind of question.

SPEAKER_01: 11:33

Yeah, they totally can. And just for context for anyone, I don't know what will be in the description or whatnot, but what I'm starting is All Tales, which is a a book creation platform to where you can all in one screen write, illustrate, format, print on demand, and eventually we want to make it to where you can like publish as well. It's just easier said than done. But you know, we're we're just trying to make book creation way easier and affordable for everybody. And so the types of books that you can make right now that we had to kind of start with, because you had a we had to pick a lane and then try to get that down, and then it will we can kind of build upon that as we go, you know, perfect that and then add on a different so we started, we started with kind of like the picture storybook children's book style, just because the hardest thing to tackle in the in what we're trying to do is the illustration side of things, making it to where people can use AI to illustrate a story if they cannot afford a actual human illustrator, which we always encourage that if you can, if you have the means and you have the you have the funds, keep paying artists. AI only imitates art, but it does not create its own art. So I always say that. But the point of all tales is to make it to like, hey, I'm casually interested in telling this story, I'm casually interested in doing this. Now it's the barrier to entry financially is extremely low, as well as the we've simplified it so much to where I would say a five-year-old or a 95-year-old could do it. So that just for the context there. And with with even with this book style, though, you 100% can make a history book. You can make any sort of type of really any type of style. I'm I'm a free speech extremist as well, and with the with the exceptions of like, you know, like you kind of talked about earlier, you know, calling upon violence and whatnot, actual calls and stuff like that. But uh, I'm a free speech leader as well. I think that's really the the best solution to bad ideas is allowing better ideas to rise. And I think the same thing goes with publications, with freedom of press as well. When it comes to like, hey, if you want to make a book on our platform spewing lies, you can do that, but we're gonna make it to where if you try to push it, there's going to be a very easy lane for everybody who to disprove it. Kind of like we want to do it to where it's kind of like X, where they have the community notes. We want to make it to where eventually, like, and this is down the road with when we make it to where you, if you make a book and you push it to the public, the community notes people can can go, actually, well, here's the verified facts as to why this on this page is wrong. You know, stuff like that. And so you see, and I like I told you, I'm a rancher. I go on all these different tangents here. But yes, to answer your question, you can make a history book. You can make any type of book, you can upload your own illustrations, you can generate the illustrations. Doing a history book with our illustrations, it's gonna look like a children's book if you use the AI that we provide, because we've trained it on very a very basic generic art style that is very cutesy. You know, it's kind of just to be very simple. But if you want to do your if you wanted to make a a little bit more of a quality history book, you'd probably upload your own your own illustrations if you if you were to provide those.

SPEAKER_00: 14:24

So I like that answer. That's an honest answer. So for as so I think kids definitely need to know their history, so I'm not against that for the pragmatic point of view because I think a lot of them don't know history. And oh, it's critical. Statistics are showing that it's just getting worse and worse and worse.

SPEAKER_01: 14:44

And it's absolutely critical that kids know their history because there are there's studies show oh, I'd have to find it. I didn't I didn't think about this study in preparation for this, but there's a study where they talk about how when kids know their their family story, their family narrative, whatever it might be, they grow up, especially going through the the awkward puberty years where they're trying to figure out who they are and stuff like that, they have a better sense of belonging and self-esteem because they know that they are a part of a larger collective narrative, even if they might not even agree with it necessarily, especially. I mean, today you look back in history with with today's morals, you're gonna condemn everybody, right? But and you know, and I've I've found that it tends to be people who, you know, that looking at it and condemning people with today's morals, it lacks the the consideration that if we were to be if we were to be born back then, we'd probably have the similar thought process. And if they're to be born today, they'd think like us today. Like everyone's a product of their time. But it helps a lot with kids. And that's that was one of the main reasons why I wanted to make this, is because I got the idea to make this business when I wanted to make a children's book for my family, just to give them the link about my grandfather who fought in World War II, just like you talked about the two grandparents earlier. My grandfather fought in World War II and is a big inspiration to me. And so I wanted to make sure that at the time when I had the idea of my theoretical children, now I have a daughter, I wanted to make sure that they could have the opportunity to somewhat know him the way that I got to know him in person. He died in 2019 at 96 years old. So my kids, no chance that there's going to be overlap. And so I wanted to make sure that they could know their history, make sure they can know their family history, and then also just promote overall history learning because it's it's critical to avoid mistakes today, you know. As I say, those who, you know, if you don't study history, you're bound to repeat it. But also, if you don't study your family story, you're bound to be lost, I'd say, you know.

SPEAKER_00: 16:28

I like that nice tie in that little you mentioned thing, you mentioned, I'll say a few things that are really important. I want to just hone in. It's identity and belonging. I mean, that's what we humans look for. And that is very um essential. I mean, me, I wish I knew the history. I mean, when I went to my teenage period, even though I knew history, but they just had a blind spot. So wait a minute. I know about this history, this history, that history, but I don't know about my own family history. I don't know about you know where some of the money came from. I, you know, I have some my DNA. So I don't know if I was part of the conquistador line of conquerors, or maybe the oppressed, and or maybe someone who's oppressed, but you know, they able to give life before they die from a disease. I don't know. So though that so I agree with I agree with that wholeheartedly. If you have some kind of identity, you could at least I will say tame the awkwardness and feeling lost for a bit, and then you could rebound much faster. I I mean I will say for someone who used to be depressed, I only beat it in two years, or someone with no history, but because I start I started doing it, and I say this line before when you get sick or tired of being sick and tired, you'll do something about it. So, and that happened to me as I got sick of tired of feeling depressed. This is all my life is gonna be being just being depressed and miserable. I might as well just end it. Self-delete. I'd say that for YouTube's sake. If it was just pure rumble, I could have said the real word. It starts with an S, and you know what that is. Um I'm glad you didn't. Glad you didn't. So you know, and that was in and that was really tempting during the time. But but just the reason why I said that's because it's true. I was lost on that. So okay, I know I have some of this, but me, I'm still piecing it together. But you know what? I I've learned how to enjoy the progress instead of just being married to the outcomes. Yeah. I'm a little bit of a perfectionist too, so I can somehow relate to that. I want the the best outcome possible. If it's a little substandard in that, I'm not happy. And that used to just trigger my misery. I said, okay, you could get out of a hundred tasks, if you get two of them wrong, I used to focus only just those two and forget about the rest of the 98%. I was being hypercritical. I said, oh my God, I really gotta get I got I really gotta get this together. I said, this is mostly a great thing. I said maybe we could have maybe I could have chipped in more by helping, you know, solve those last two tasks this person needed to get right. But you know, but I was being a hypercritic, just lasering those two things that this person got wrong, and this is very thorough. I mean, it's very theoretical, but thing is my point is some people are so hypercritic, you could do most of the things right, but if you're doing one thing wrong, you'll just laser on that one thing. And some people are just hypercritical, and that's why you need an idea, you know who you are, what you're good at, have an idea why you have these quirks or great personality. Where does that come from? Or you know, even some of the talents, you know. I agree, but I didn't go in the history is I mean, even general history is very important, just like you said. The ignorant or dim are gonna repeat it, the the errors of history, and the other thing I want to tie into is I would call it time contextualization. Let's gotta come up with a better word, because these TikTok youth who know everything about nothing, okay. I'm gonna rant a little bit now because they some of the things they say are just so stupid, and and they and I someone got the the gall to talk about misinformation, someone with the biggest source of it. You don't know your stuff. Shut up and actually study before you spill your mouth. And sadly, the reason why they're popular is because the clicks of their same age will just agree based on feelings and what they're going through. No, they they need to be taught, and one-liners are not gonna help solve complicated issues. Not everything is a click of a button. I wish life was that way. Shoot, I I would have got so much things done, shoot me. I got a bit of a weight problem. Wish I have a click that could have just looked most handsome, but who knows? I could have been a freaking model, but that doesn't exist. And forget, I would have talked down on Pete, maybe have my nose up like that. These these ugly peasants, you know, who knows? But not every is a silly example. But the point is, not everything is a click away. Something's gonna take work and effort, okay? And so that's that's my point. And these kids, I'm sure a lot of them they preach morality, but a lot of them are gonna fall so short if they were in the 1800s. Let's use slavery, for example. Saw my own slavery because it was a great economic opportunity. Is it wrong? Yes, but at that time it was a great economic opportunity, especially for the South. Yeah. I'm not saying it's right, it's wrong. That let me just be clear for those of you who are low IQ. Slavery is wrong. Exactly. Okay, but we gotta have context. At that time, it was a great opportunity. And people do things when they see a great opportunity, right or wrong.

SPEAKER_01: 21:49

Oh, all the time. I mean, many times people are not given an opportunity to really truly test their morals. And so, especially if they like I said, you know, if they grow up in a time where some people like they might hear some people saying, hey, it's wrong, but some people go, hey, no, hold on. That's not wrong. But like you hear you start hearing people debating it. And so if you grew up in that time, I even have the ancestors that that I discovered owned slaves. And so at first I was like, oh my gosh, dude, I'm so I'm so ashamed. And I sit still, I'm like, you know, obviously not ideal, but I you gotta have the charity of realizing that everyone's a product of their times. Who knows if those people grew up and they only ever heard, hey, it's completely fine. That's just because, you know, we're better than them. And then that's all they're told. They're not, they're not to be blamed to be told that that's you know, if that's all they've been told and that's they've never been had it had a differing opinion their whole life to challenge their brain to think about about it in a different way. And so, you know, today we all tend to do the same thing where we're like, oh, I wouldn't ever do that. I'm like, hold on now. Let's put you back in that situation, take away your whole entire life experience and give you the life experience of someone who grew up in the freaking 1400s. I'm sure that you would probably do some of the stuff that some of the the British royalty were doing that was pretty jacked up. You know, like everyone, everyone's a product of their times.

SPEAKER_00: 22:57

So oh, yeah, like the royal incest. Oh my god. Do you think do you think that's a good thing? I mean, I'm sure 99.99% of you could say that no problem. But you know, it's still that point zero zero zero one percent.

SPEAKER_01: 23:15

But then let's just say you're you're you grow up your whole life being used to these luxuries, and then now you now you're being told, okay, hold on. If I marry that girl, there's a chance I'm gonna lose the throne. But if I marry she's kind of my cousin, but honestly, I'd rather marry her and keep everything for sure rather than marry her and risk losing everything. You know, like and so like they like everyone's again opportunity. Once you're given an opportunity, you start thinking a little bit differently. And so I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying everyone, everyone acts according to their situation a lot more than just in an academic setting, thinking about a theoretical, hmm, given this or this, I would take this. Like, okay, now they're in front of you. Now the same, are you gonna have the same reaction or are you gonna do something different, you know?

SPEAKER_00: 23:52

So exactly. That's why you kids gotta learn history. So just listen to these TikTok, and I even throw all the other social media YouTube dummies, Instagram dummies, Facebook dummies. I refuse to call them ex Twitter dummies. I still call them Twitter. I don't care, I'm part of that camp. I'm that camp.

SPEAKER_01: 24:09

I feel yeah, I feel yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 24:10

But it was much better branding, and why I would join Blue Sky yet, even Blue Sky dummies. Yep, I'm tackled with social media. You're not safe. You are not safe with me. And I use some of them, okay? But I'm trying to do something a little bit different. But sometimes I'm gonna have to resort to your level just for you to get it. Not ideal, but I'm a pragmatist at the end of the day. So that that that's my moral compass. So I'm about getting it done and then I perfect it later. That that's that's me. I've I think that's definitely better for my mental health as opposed to just trying to be perfectionist the first shot. Also, I just won't do anything. Paralysis analysis, that's it. And I used to be that, so I, you know, I mean, I could go on these rants for for a long while, but yeah, it time, you know, context matters. And trust me, you have access to all this knowledge, but yet you're not applying it. And that's I would I would say that's a shame, really. We have access to knowledge in an unprecedented way, and yet what I hear on the social medias is just not even social media, sometimes traditional media, that's bash the cable news and them too. They but but thing is they I'd say it's to some extent it tends to be wiser, but they still push propaganda as well. This is why you gotta know your stuff.

SPEAKER_01: 25:27

Well, and and often though, I do think that there is a analysis paralysis type of thing. I mean, like if anyone has ever been to In N Out, the restaurant, like they make their menu like four items, five items, whatever for like the burgers. They have three different burgers, they don't offer you like 20 different ones, and and I know that you know, in light of recent events, but you know, I I've heard how they talk about whenever there is any sort of group-ran attack or anything like that, looking at the past events of you know, recent events as if that could have happened from you know an organized you know thing, they always talk about how whenever something like that happens, they want to give out as much information that could be contradictory as well, just add confusion. Because if you only really one of the problems that I think that you know, you're talking about, well, you know, that we have all this access to all this knowledge, but we're dumber than ever, it seems sometimes. It's because when you're you're being tossed every way by, you know, like for instance, in the health industry, this is one thing I've always griped about is that they're like, well, actually, we say, actually, we discovered that this is healthy for you. Actually, we discovered that that's killing you. Like, there's always like all these like back and forth. So no one really knows what to believe. And so you eventually just go, actually, I'm just gonna stop. I'm gonna stop even thinking about it. And so I think that happens a lot too, or you know, if there's a lot of different things coming at you, we tend to go with either the thing that just sounds the best to us, or we just stop even thinking about it, thinking critically about it in general. And so it's honestly it's the curse of too much information, I would say, really.

SPEAKER_00: 26:51

Yeah, no, sadly, you are right. And I mean, I've been to restaurants where I personally suffer that when 30 options are in my face. Oh, yeah. Actually, no, let me not even use restaurants, let me use a niche place that I used to love going to, and it took me 30 minutes to make my decision. Only I make it less than five seconds, but it took me 30 minutes because I was just testing, and I was a moocher, I'm gonna be honest, of David's tea. I mean, it's an e-commerce now only, but they used to have physical locations where I taught I tried all these weird tea flavors. You think I'm gonna make it up? Check it online, check david's tea.com. They had birthday cake tea. I said, Let me have a sample of that. I drank, I drank that. It tasted just like birthday cake. So how you sick mad scientists able to perfect birthday cake tasting until how? And I got even more curious, and me, I'll just add curiosity, even made my indecision even worse. I said, I wanted to try a lemon zest. Uh not even lemon zest, I think it was like lemon cake or something. I said, let me let me taste that so I'm gonna get this one right. Not getting that one, and then even um autumn leaves, I say, what autumn leaves tea? Drink that. This is interesting. Okay. And the the point is you have so much options you don't know what to do. But if you're a traditionalist, you just go for regular tea, that's it, you go about it. I mean, some people would resort to that. I resort to that when I was in a rush. I was just giving the most plainest tea you got. That's it. I got I gotta go, I don't got time just to try a hundred different flavors, and they literally have over a hundred different tea flavors. I mean, food you can make up, you'd be surprised it had the well, orange tea is not that strange. I I've drank that before. They have apple tea and I I don't think they have create pizza tea yet, but I don't think it's gonna taste good.

SPEAKER_01: 28:46

I would imagine that tasting good.

SPEAKER_00: 28:49

You know, and yeah, I just think too much options does create a uh that situation as opposed to a place that just offers six tea flavors.

SPEAKER_01: 29:00

Yep.

SPEAKER_00: 29:01

It's okay. I've tried five. I'm just gonna try I'm gonna try the the orange flavor one, or I will just try the the right, you know, the green tea, whatever. Traditional, more traditional flavors. As a you know, you make the decision so much faster because you have less options to play with. So I think I get what we say, yeah, but when we offer too much information or even choices, we just we get stuck. So it's yeah, you're you're you're right on that. And you know, I wish I was more charitable, but I said, But people talk to someone you know, there's ways around it, be more resourceful instead of just staying stupid, yeah, to be honest. So I uh so but to your point, you it it has it, yeah, it's valid. It's a valid point. Um, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna even try to argue even against that because it is valid. I personally, I even comes to history books. I said, uh I had to narrow it, I had to be creative, I'd narrow down some stuff I know that okay, I want to okay, American history gonna avoid. Never gonna avoid European history. Oh, medieval Africa. Don't know much about that one. Let me pick that one and read that. Because I think the way world history has been taught is a disgrace, but that's a whole nother rant for another day.

SPEAKER_01: 30:16

It's fascinating too seeing how like I know I I lived in England for a little bit, and so it's fascinating to see how we taught the Revolutionary War versus how they taught it. You know, the two perspectives there. For them, they see it as like a just another freaking colony that we lost control of, whatever, not a big deal. But for us, we're like, heck yeah, baby, let's go. We're better than you. And they're like, yeah, honestly, we yeah, we mentioned that we used to that we kind of got America started because we had you guys and you guys call back and we eventually you know gave up. You know, and so it's it's fascinating to seeing how history is taught from different perspectives like that as well. Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_00: 30:46

Oh yeah, no, you're right. And well, the French version, when I found out I was like, oh no, we helped the Americans with their revolution, they gotta thank us. You know, that's the French perspective.

SPEAKER_01: 30:56

Well, we see we kind of do, we kind of do have to help thank them.

SPEAKER_00: 30:58

No, I mean factually they are right, oh, because it was a turning point. Well, especially when it was I mean, we started getting the momentum, and then them them coming in, they they definitely turned the tides. I mean there is there is there is some truth to that. But the French are gonna teach you like it's just okay, it wasn't for us helping them, it inspired us to start our own revolution, which theirs I'll say is far more bloodier, and I think even crazier. No. And there, I think America's all about freedom and all that. Yeah, economics were involved, but the French more like the rich and the poor, you know, yeah, like you know, that freaking income gap was significant and then.

SPEAKER_01: 31:31

Which not to make this too political, but I think I think we're we're nearing that one more than we are any other type. Not that we're close, not saying that, but not trying to do doomsday type of fear stuff, you know, speculating. But I'm just saying that's one that honestly, when you study that one, you're like, okay, I kind of relate a little bit more just on how the world is today, a little bit. So it's just fascinating. Study your history, everybody. It's important.

SPEAKER_00: 31:51

Yeah, this is why we're talking about history, you know, even though this is a business tech thing, but hey, I I could mix things up, it's more interesting that way. So deal with it, people. Deal with it. Um right, no, but um, and I think you could create like wedding books and all that kind of that's a special fabulous um mouse style.

SPEAKER_01: 32:11

There's a lot, there's a lot of cool ways to apply it. Uh, we had a I've done it for a couple buddies, and I'm actually doing another one for a buddy next month to where basically we make a book, like they they basically made a children's book telling the story of how they met and fell in love. So it's still like written just adult-wise, you know, normal and whatever. But it's they used it in a cool way to where they had it as like the wedding guest sign-in book, to where the wedding guest would sign in around their story. So it kind of worked in multiple ways where the wedding guests got to kind of skim through their stories so that way if the family came and they only knew the groom or the bride, or you know, whatever, like you know, distant, you know, cousins who obviously you're not you're not always introducing your spouse, your future spouse, like you have to meet every single one in my family. So there's gonna be people at the wedding who don't know one or the other. And so it made it to where when people came to the wedding, compared to my wedding when I was there, you know, at my wedding, the conversations I had were a lot of like, oh, so how'd you guys meet? Oh, yeah, we know we met on Tinder, ha, yeah, I know Tinder, whatever, you know, but you know, we made it work. And then you have the same conversation over and over again. But for these weddings, it's been awesome because they're able to have slightly deeper conversations, like, oh hey, I saw that you guys, you guys met on a freaking on a roller coaster. How? Like, oh yeah, you know, yeah, we were, you know, we were just put right next to each other, you know, whatever, right? And so like it's just you're able to have slightly, and I just I I guess I really just gave it the example of a still a how he met story, but you know what I mean. Like they they got to know you as a couple a little bit more, as well as the couple. Now one of them is actually trying for kids right now, so they're really excited. They're looking, they're excited to be able to read their story to their kids and then also be able to be reminded of like, oh that's right, my cousin didn't make it. Hey, so hey, hey, little Jimmy, this is your, this is my cousin, this is your what would that be? Your freaking this would be your first cousin one times removed, whatever. They're they're the ones who did this story, and you know, and then it spurs more storytelling and more talking and more reminiscing. So it's just been a really cool way to apply just it's taking a book, you're we're we're not reinventing the wheel, we're just reapplying the wheel to different things, you know. So it's really cool.

SPEAKER_00: 34:02

Or uh Well, yeah, I just think you're updating the wheel, I guess.

SPEAKER_01: 34:09

Rick and it's so everyone can make their own wheel really easily. You don't have to go to Michelin anymore.

SPEAKER_00: 34:14

Yeah, there you go. That's a great way to put it. I think um you you're you know, I do have angle how to think about this because social media, and yep, I gotta bash them again. I love yup, I gotta bash you again. I'm a tough lover. We post so much photos, we post so much stuff, you know, and uh well, you know, I don't even care you call me conspiracy theorists, this has been proven many times, you know. Government and strangers and all that can snoop through your things, and we forget most of the time what we post too. So you're making those memories extra valuable and something that's gonna be preserved in our brain instead of just outsourcing to the phone or to the laptop. So you're definitely emphasizing the importance of memories, which I think has been lost. So which is which that ties it to the legacy building and the preserving, you know, stories and history and all that. So I I think that's another thing you're tackling. I'm not sure that was intentional or not, but I won't be surprised if it is.

SPEAKER_01: 35:15

Yeah, we we we just want we want everyone to preserve their stories more. I mean, we I think it's goes back to what we're talking about where there's where we when you have too many options, you're not gonna sometimes you have analysis paralysis where you can never you can't make a decision on what to eat if there's too many options on the menu, or if you, you know, if if on the internet there's just we have we've never had such access to knowledge yet. You know, we also seem to be the most I don't know even if I'd say dumb, but kind of we tend to be the the least wise because we tend to ignore all the information at us. And and so same thing when it comes to our memories. When we have I have I think I have 10,000 photos and videos on my phone just from sometimes it's work, I do roofing, so sometimes it's pictures of shingles or whatever, or sometimes it's you know, I take a thousand photos of my wife because she goes, she goes, I want to take a photo right now. So I'm like, all right, you know, no, you don't look good there, okay, and then we do that for an hour. But you know, sometimes it's you know, but overall with having uh such a extreme access to preserving memory, taking pictures, we don't actually preserve memories as well. So I I I'm really hopeful that we can find a way to kind of just help all tales help people kind of slow down a little bit when it comes to even preserving memories. Like, hey, make a book, you know, I want you guys to make a like we're gonna do we we really want to make it to where there's a big community of all tales of people to where they can we can do like you know type of weekly challenges, like hey, make a book. Whoever makes a book with their top 10 memories, you get X, Y, and Z, or whatever. I don't know, something like that. Like we want we just want to encourage healthy social media usage. We want to make it to where we can also make social mediaze the book creation process, but in a healthy social media way, not a toxic way, to where we can make it to where it's kind of a guided social media to where you can't you can't get addicted to it, you know. You can't you can't have your your mental health ruined by it, but you can also be only improved by it.

SPEAKER_00: 37:05

So making those modes extra special and you're combating you you touched on autopilot, just do things quick, automated, done. We only put a conscious thought about it. You just automate. We we yeah, we go on autopilot, but especially when we post social media and all that, we we post what photos and videos and vlogs and and then we just forget about it because just mundane stuff. So you you're preserving the special and making it more of a conscious thing too, to make us more alert of it, which it's definitely a need for sure. I'm if anyone wants to disagree, just put in the comment section. Uh you know, you're entitled to your opinion, but you're not entitled to the truth. I say that. So feel free to do that at your at your risk. That's all I'm gonna say. Especially if you speak craziness. Remember, I don't believe in censoring. Like I've kept the comments of people calling me dumb or wrong. I've kept those. That's the way to do it. You know, and look, I I I see my reading them, but I thought I was gonna be sensitive. I thought I would have been one of those butt hard print people, but I guess I've been through so much, it's just I've been through so much worse. That's nothing. And I've heard much worse. So if you're gonna be creative, you know, you gotta be creative with your comments, people say you're dumb or your mama's fat. You know how many times I heard your mama's fat? I'm raised in an urban area, so I've heard much crazier than that. So do your worst. That that's all I'm gonna say. Uh, and just and just keep it purely verbal again. That's all I'm going to say about that. So listen, all I'm gonna say is this has been uh great, interesting business slash AI. I will not, I will not definitely think about this episode was if it was guessing. Oh yeah, I said that this is a blind spot. So yeah, enhancing storytelling and production and all and all that good stuff. And look, look, you got someone who you have an affordable alternative, even though publishing is TBD, TBA, whatever you want to call it, to be decided or to be announced. It's uh it's in the works. Okay, but for to for now, you just create your your book with illustrations and yeah, but go ahead.

SPEAKER_01: 39:21

Oh no, I was gonna say, I was just gonna say, yeah, just create your one-off book. It could be uh children's book, you can give the link to family and friends order copies and stuff like that. But you'll you'll save it to your profile. Once we make it to where you can you know publish it or at least make it available to other people who view visit All Tales and you can do that later on. But for now, go there and make a book. It's it's really exciting. You don't have to be an author. It's we try to make it really easy. We have writing assistants and illustration assistants. So you can't have AI write the whole story for you because that's slop and that's lazy, but you can have it help you out.

SPEAKER_00: 39:50

So I agree. And I have said this before by AI. Let it be your assistant. Well, you have to be the driver, you have to be the boss. 100%. Don't let AI do that. And I've tried that just to prove my point. I let AI let the way, and uh, you know, it's the results are not optimal. I'm just gonna say that. And and I have let it do political analysis, and I've caught it with several contradictions. That's not correct. That's not correct. So you still gotta have a brain, you still gotta have a vision and be guided more by what you want instead of what AI wants to steer you towards.

SPEAKER_01: 40:25

Well, dude, honestly, I just realized like AI talking about how there's so much information out there for everyone on social media, information for us to access. That's why AI, every time like the like GPT or Grok or freaking Claude or any of those like language language ones, they that's why they hallucinate out there is because there's a bunch of right and wrong information out there. So sometimes they're pulling from freaking wrong places too. So not even the AI, the AI is even susceptible to freaking, you know, being being tricked and deceived by by how much over information there is out there. So sorry, I mean I'm I know I'm going back to that. I was just it's just connected in my brain. I was like, ah, yeah. Even the AI is not not isn't victimless of being, you know, deceived by too much. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00: 41:06

And I have look, I have said this before. And I so hope you've been paying attention to this, listeners, viewers, get some whys, pearls, you know, going through the whole, you know, why this is such a great, great opportunity for you, especially if you think you can't tell. So look, yeah, assistance right right there. Okay, you got the writing and illustration assistance. I mean, one more gags for oh smart icon, oh, publishing. It's coming. Relax.

SPEAKER_01: 41:37

We got a lot coming. We got a lot coming. Talk is cheap though. Once we get there, we'll we'll talk anymore.

SPEAKER_00: 41:43

Was it release? Yeah, or it was recently released, so look at that.

SPEAKER_01: 41:46

Yeah, we we launched it on see today. We're recording on a Tuesday. We launched it on Friday night, technically Saturday morning at like 2 30 a.m. So on Friday, it's supposed to be the 12th. I guess it was 12th in California at the time. It wasn't the 12th in Eastern time where we where you and I are. But yeah, so we're only a few days old. We have a lot of bugs that we're still working out right now, but we're we're eager and we're we're uh working hard and working fast.

SPEAKER_00: 42:08

Yeah, so if you want to use your comments more productively, give that feedback. Report or bug. That's a more productive way to do that. I would say just do it directly to your site, though. That'll be the optimal use of that. You know, the I don't think the YouTube comment section or even Rumble comment section will be the most, you know, wise, you know, well, it's it's gonna be Rumble only for my end. Um, but they have a YouTube channel as well. So I'm gonna link, I'm gonna link their site and all their social medias. You know, and the in the show notes, just like I always do, normal practice. So you're gonna get that. So try it out. You could be an author today. Or sometime in the future. Let me just say like that.

SPEAKER_01: 42:52

Or you can imagine it's just make a good book for a significant other. Just say, hey, honey, I love you. Here's here's a book that I made. And she'd be like, wow, you made the book. I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna freaking put some tape over the altars load on the back. Yeah, I made this book for you.

SPEAKER_02: 43:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 43:02

Well, look at I that's I I didn't expect that response. I expect a lot of things without that one, so just cover it.

SPEAKER_01: 43:10

I covered the day with the I'm just I I put I put I made a I made a book for my wife for her birthday, just like you know, chosen this book format, but just here's why I love you, here's where you awesome. So, anyways, I was just doing one last little plug of how you could use our platform if you thought that it's not for you, maybe it is. It still is.

SPEAKER_00: 43:24

So uh listen, look, author skill unlocked. There you go. Yeah, uh that's what I'm gonna say. They'll use more gamey and nerdy terms, and this is not to be honest, this is like the least expected, but it doesn't mean it wasn't valuable and enjoyable. It's definitely valuable and enjoyable for me because you know AI use is so broad, it that the only limitation really is our imagination.

SPEAKER_01: 43:49

Well, I was I was just gonna say I appreciate you having me on. Like this is this is the first podcast, this is not the first podcast I've ever done. I've done once before when I tried to start a tried to make an app in college. It was a dud. But I this is the first podcast I've done for All Tales. And so Elias, I'm just I'm incredibly grateful for you having me on. You're awesome, dude. Everyone, Elias is awesome. Keep following along on his videos. He's a nice guy. He he's intellectually honest. That's at the very least, he is intellectually honest. But he he seems like a very knowledgeable guy. I don't know him. I don't know him like he's my you know best friend, but from what I've been able to tell by about about you, Elias, it just seems like you are you're a good guy. You have you have the right direction that you're heading. And so I I I'm gonna be following along. I appreciate you having me on.

SPEAKER_00: 44:29

Oh, thank you. I appreciate you coming on because it takes hey, it takes to make this episode. You know, if it was just me alone, it would have been just a monologue. Some people love it, some people can't stand it. Oh well, well, at least I give you the description so you could, you know, choose to waste your time or not. Entirely up to you, right there.

SPEAKER_02: 44:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 44:46

So, you know, again, check out all tales, okay? It is all A-L-L, it entails not like the tale of the animal, it's not gonna be spelled that way, is T-A-L-E-S.com. But that link is gonna be in the in the description.

SPEAKER_01: 45:04

Going on. Awesome. I I've gotten some emails from people sending me uh sending me their pets health history sometimes. They're like, hey, so this is Sparkles. She's you know, I'm like, after email, I'm like, I'm sorry, the if there's an all tales out there with like an animal tail thing, like wrong company. So yeah, so just that's it's just a funny little anecdote. About about every month or so I get an email of someone's pet pet's health history because they they get us mixed up with uh with some sort of animal service out there, it's kind of funny.

SPEAKER_00: 45:29

So ah, but you know that's another book idea. Yeah, oh there you go. Turn into a book. Here you go, turn into a book. Pro capitalist, pro-shapedness plug-in. You should know that by now. So you get just deal with it. So now for the oh actually, before I wrap this up, anything else you want to add before I wrap this up?

SPEAKER_01: 45:49

Yeah, just your guys' guys, your stories matter. Don't think that they don't. Uh even if you even if it's a rough draft and you never never see the light of day, it matters. And so also we we help you guys find your ancestors for free. So I've set up a team of people to hop on a video call, kind of like how me and Elias are doing right now, except it's more, it's not a podcast. But we we help you build your family tree uh for free and we don't charge you for it. We and then we just ask that you let us make a video about someone that we find so that way we can keep building our socials and then you can know your family history, and hopefully, in a roundabout way, you know some more stories that you might one day make on All Tales. So if you guys are interested in that, check us out on the social media, just at all tales official.

SPEAKER_00: 46:25

So Oh, wait a minute. I normally don't have a post question. Okay, it's it only is it only in I knew I forgot something. This is a day go host expose professional moment. Oh, the world's gonna end. No, it's not. It's just a minor boogle. Is it limited only to the US or is it global?

SPEAKER_01: 46:45

Uh it I guess you it technically is global, although we are pri you know mostly just thinking about the US for now, but just because we gotta focus on one. But it the the problem with going across across the globe, not everyone has freedom of press and stuff like that. And so when we're we're probably gonna have to once we start getting users outside the US, we'll probably have to be like, okay, shoot, we're getting a couple users in this country. Let's let's look at their laws first and make sure that we're not gonna get freaking you know extradited out there and be like, hey, what are you guys doing? You have our people, you guys are showing them books about you know freedom of speech. We don't believe in that here. I'm like, okay, oh I'm sorry. You know, like we just gotta, you know, for now, just the US. But yeah, I guess if you're in the UK, if you're anywhere in Europe, uh you could probably just be a one-off. But I guess if we get big there, I won't I won't hate it. We'll just have to kind of pause and figure out the laws there and make sure we can make it applicable for where wherever you're at.

SPEAKER_00: 47:33

You see, and look, he has a good head on his shoulders. So this is this is the look, I was gonna throw a bunch of tiles. The boss, the president, and all that. So he's level-headed. At least he's not trying to shove Americanism down the whole entire globe. And I always disagree with that approach. So, yep, say laws and their cultures and all that, and then then I then I'll say expand globally. So, hey, that's intelligent, not against it at all. So, hey, check that out as well. So good. You see, look to see that that is something that I knew I forgot my my little voice like you forgot something, you forgot something. I'm happy you mentioned that. So now for my shameless plugin. Yeah, go ahead. Like, comment, subscribe, maybe feeling generous, donate, and then when you donate, I'm gonna have exclusive episodes, and these are the ones that I'm gonna really be truly uncensored. This is me being 10% uncensored, really uncensored, crazy stuff. You you'll think I'm a nut, and I don't blame you. Maybe I am. You'll see about that. But I but and but for the time being you get shout-outs and your own emotes, and you know, you you deserve it because you're helping me run. Join Pop Match. It's a great way to get guests, and it's very organized too, because I didn't have to do a lot of the work. I don't have to go through freaking email chains and dig for important information. It gets annoying people, and we know we get thousands, even tens of thousands of emails per day. So join pot match and that one pager, you could change it on the fly instantaneously instead of just I don't know, correcting it through a Microsoft Word or PowerPoint, wherever the heck you use, and then you gotta read then you gotta re-PDF the darn thing and send it again. Come on, be smart. Join Popmatch. Okay, so that's what I'm gonna say right there. So once we complete this visual or audio journey, you have a blessed day, afternoon, or night.