309- Intuitive Healing: Discovering Your Body's Wisdom With Inna Segal

The wisdom of the body contains powerful secrets that can lead to profound healing when we learn to listen and respond to its language. 

• Our bodies communicate through sensations, pains, and feelings that signal deeper emotional and energetic imbalances
• Every experience and trauma in our lives impacts our physical health and creates patterns in our body
• The human body consists of multiple energy layers—the physical, etheric (memory), and astral (emotional) bodies
• The "etheric body" explains phenomena like phantom limb pain and personality changes after organ transplants
• Medical science is slowly catching up to ancient wisdom about the mind-body-spirit connection
• Communication breakdowns in our relationships often manifest as physical ailments
• Ancestral trauma can be passed down and expressed through our physical bodies
• True healing requires moving through stages: from suffering to seeking quick fixes to taking responsibility
• Finding doctors who are open to holistic approaches can create better healthcare outcomes
• Self-knowledge and personal responsibility are essential components of any healing journey

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Chapters

• 0:00 Reflections on Political Division
• 7:22 Meeting Intuitive Healer Ina Segal
• 16:08 The Body's Communication System
• 27:47 Energy Bodies and Hidden Wisdom
• 43:44 Stages of Healing Process
• 58:09 Being Your Own Health Advocate
• 1:12:34 Final Thoughts and Resources

Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:06

Welcome everyone to Politically High Tech with your host, Elias. You know, I'm gonna start off like this. I normally have a stupid, silly monologue that's not planned, just to come top of my head. But basis recording, I normally don't give the date, but it's gonna be important. Look, America's lost a right-wing influencer. Alright? And if I sound a little sombers because of that, and I don't wanna, you know, if I cheer about it, which I'm not, it's wrong. And sadly, there's those of you on TikTok. I'm I'm look yeah, I'm I'm attacking you. There's a few of you that are cheering, you got a problem. But don't worry, you mentally ill, if you got enough sense, if you got enough spirit pulling you in the right direction. Once you let that spirit pull you in the right direction, you could be saved. But some of and some of you that were anti-Charlie Kirk, you need to hear this. And anyone else really who got issues, issues that need healing. It's not always a physical pain. When we talk about pain, we normally mean physical pain. There's emotional pain, some people are familiar with, and there is um, I think pain there is so deep that most people are just not aware of. Maybe we've forgotten our ways because a lot of these problems that exist in ancient times or earlier days, right? I mean, mental health problems continue to spike. I'm not gonna say all over the world, but I've studied Western countries that have definitely spiked in Western countries for sure. And we we need this message today. And I'm gonna introduce her and I'm gonna just keep this short because we need to get to this good stuff more than ever. And and we need this. Countries are going through division, not just America, but you know, I told America, that's what I do the most study on. Other countries are going through such rough times. I look, I love to joke normally. But I don't think it's right for this situation. I just think it's very inappropriate. With that said, we have someone who's gonna give us insight about healing. This needs more than this is needed more than ever. Yeah, 20 years ago, 50 years ago, yeah, for different reasons. But this is needed more than ever because we are heading in the dark path if we don't do anything to stop this. So let's welcome our intuitive healing coach. Now I'm author as well, by the way. She writes books too, so she could she could bring these metaphysics in a way that we could understand and grasp it. Let's welcome Ina Segal. And I always start with all my guests with this question: what do you want the audience, the viewers and the listeners to know about you?

SPEAKER_01: 3:07

Thank you, Alice. And just before I do say that I think, you know, killing somebody for having an opinion or having beliefs is is is a tragedy. It's it's an absolute tragedy. Whether whichever side of politics you stand on, this is a human life. And there's just been too much of this going on lately. And for me, my work is always about bringing people back to themselves so that so that they can understand what's going on and actually do something about it so that it's not expressed in this violent way on the outside based on whatever you believe. Because we have, you know, every single person on this planet has different beliefs. If you sit next to somebody, right? And you might agree with some things, but disagree with so many other things. And, you know, I just wanted to kind of say that for a moment that, you know, the end of the day, the saying know thyself is probably the most important because so much of what we get upset with other people actually comes back to how we really and truly feel about ourselves or or an opportunity, even if we if it's not about how we feel about ourselves, opportunity to to reflect. And I I guess for me, you know, what I heard of Charlie Kirk, but it's not just about him, even though I'm a bit devastated about this, that it was about conversation, right? It was about having conversation, and everything that I teach people is about learning how to communicate, starting with yourself and also becoming friends with your body so that you can assist your body to communicate with all the parts of you because things go wrong, and we actually become sick and ill when the nervous system stops communicating properly with all the different parts of the body. So it's like the messages are not actually connected, and you know, we are our own being as a represent representative of what we see in the world. And what I teach and talk about is how every experience, everything that you you have gone through, whether it's traumatic or really beautiful, actually impacts your health and impacts your body. And that the body contains wisdom, yeah, incredible wisdom around sharing with you how you can have a fulfilled life. But if you're constantly living outside of yourself and blaming and celebrating, like you said, you know, celebrating somebody's demise or somebody's, you know, failures or somebody's death, that's that's you know, like that, that is a real opportunity to come back to yourself because having communication and conversation is the most important aspect of every part of your life. Everything breaks down when there's no communication, whether it's in your family, your relationships with yourself, your relationships at work, every part is communication. And if we can see it as that, then we can become wiser. And I really feel like what we need is wisdom because I was speaking to a friend of mine yesterday, and she said to me, I'm so grateful, Ina, that you talk to me that about the fact that every every topic, every topic has at least 12 points of view. At least, because we have 12 months of the year. And I know people say maybe some people believed earlier we had 13 months of the year, but we have at least, I'm gonna say at least 12 points of view, right? If we can listen to completely opposing perspectives and learn from them, this is when we can start to grow in wisdom and be open to all different perspectives and possibilities in the understanding of why a person believe this. I find that the most fascinating thing. And so, you know, starting doing healing work when I was super young, I was 21 when I started, and people would come to me who were from every different profession. And, you know, many years ago when I started this, people were not as open as they are now to the idea of healing. And so they would come from, you know, and often be quite skeptical. And I understand that because I'm naturally quite a skeptic too. And if it hadn't happened to me, I probably would be still very skeptical, you know, about different possibilities. But I had to really learn how do I speak to a builder, let's say, about healing. And I would talk to him about, you know, about bricks. Or I I I I remember I had a client and he he called me on the phone. So I did a lot of, you know, before we even had Zoom or anything, I would do phone consultations and he he was a detective. And he said to me, I don't believe in any of this. And my I'm only here because my wife made me. And I said to him, Really? And I said, and I said to him, well, it's really interesting because I I feel like I have a similar job to you. And he said, What do you mean? And I said, Well, I feel like you you're a detective, right? You're you find, you know, you you're looking for a person or the situation of what happened, right? You you're detecting, you're discovering, you're asking lots of questions, you're trying to learn about a situation and put all the pieces of the puzzle together to understand what happened. I do the same with the body. That's what I actually do. I'm a detective. I said to him, you know, because that's the truth. I'm trying to understand why somebody has the challenge they have. Where did it come from? And not only where did it come from, but how did it get built? And it was really interesting because this man who was so, so super skeptical and actually had cancer was then so open because I just connected to him from his perspective, right? And and and and I understood and I thought about it. And we he was given, you know, a few months to live, and he ended up with doing all the processes that I taught him. He expanded his life to about, I think it was around 10 years instead of three months that he was given, and had a very, very different quality of life over that 10 years than in the three months that he was given if he just followed only the medical procedure. And so we are so much more than we think, and when we and believe, and when we realize that we can start to also be so much kinder to ourselves and other people.

SPEAKER_00: 10:32

Ooh, you said quite a lot. Listeners and viewers, I hope you're paying attention here. She alluded to frames of communication. She had to talk like a builder, talk like a detective, use jargon, professional words that they all understand so it can click. Okay. You know, she compared the body to building blocks. Yeah, you're building ways that yourself better. And the detectives, you're finding what's wrong with it, and you could correct the situation, find all the clues. What's the body doing? Is it showing pimples? And what can you do to get rid of that? Oh, it's more than the pimple. That's part of the problem why you're fatigued. You know, and yeah, this is this is fascinating stuff here. And if you're still skeptical, it's alright. I'm I too am normally a skeptic by nature. I normally question things, but I'm not ascending as oh, Ina's crazy. What is she talking about? Oh my goodness. You could think that, but don't make that your dominant thought. At least have some healthy dose of skepticism. Be curious, at least. At least have some curiosity, at least try to understand. So it's like, oh, this is whack job stuff. Well, you know what? Science is catching up, believe it or not. It's catching up to this, even though, yes, we still do a lot of chemical, physical procedures in America, but more people's being open to the more metaphysics and going beyond the body, and which is great. It's great. It's a that part is a positive compared to before. Everything was just okay, chop this filthy organ out, yank it out, that's it. Okay, you extend your life to a year at best. But with these teachers, I mean, you know, we we are more than our body, obviously, and I'm happy that science is catching up. Like I said to her before the recording is slow, you know, better late than never. Science is catching up, alright? You know, you think you were the smarter ones. It turns out the spiritual people were ahead of the curve. Let me just frag a little bit. Thank goodness I choose to be a spiritualist. Okay, this is coming for someone who used to be an agnostic teenager when I was depressed. So what a big change right there. You were the people not believed, well, you was that as oh yeah, yeah. You talk to me about God, I will try to, I will try to mock it and do stuff with, you know, do anything some get someone miserable, and their misery was my joy. You know, you know, I had to work on me.

SPEAKER_01: 13:00

And by you're hurting inside, you know, when you were saying those things.

SPEAKER_00: 13:06

Of course. But that little glee was only a few seconds, and then you're back to being miserable. No, you're right. Then the misery's still there. But for a second that got that little kick, like a little hee hee hee, but you're back to you know, that's why that that you know, that getting that getting that kick out of songs of misery is only like a it's like a what I say, like a coffee shot. A little boost, it goes down. You're back to being tired and exhausted. It's as cheap as that. And I can say that from experience. So that's what she's alluding to. Oh, she's not being disagreeable. It it's just a fact. Okay. That's what I'm gonna say before you start, you know, making, oh my goodness, I gotta have a fight. No, no, it's not a fight. So it's a conversation. Calm down, not some of you want to fight. And let me just be politically balanced. Let me attack the right for not being compassionate when left-wing politicians were being killed as well. This is not just right-wingers, you know, left-wingers being gleeful or neglectful when the opposite side met their demise. You know, I say Trump was negligible for not saying, Oh, my prayers were with you. And some people on the right was not being, they were just acting like nothing happened. And a few even blamed them for it, which is not right either. This is why this political divide is bad. But I'm gonna end it right there. I just have to say that as well because I also have to attack the right for being reckless when the left, when the people on the left met their demise. So it's both sides out. Two wrongs do not make a right. That's all I'm gonna say there. My political spew and spill is done here, unless I allow the guests to be you know free. You should speak more about that's up to her. No pressure there. And you people in the comments, when you comment, behave as well. I'm not gonna tell everyone you're misbehaving. And if YouTube decides to cut you off, it's because you are reckless. It's your fault. I believe in freedom of speech. Just like Americans. But that's why you wait for this to be on Rumble. Rumble, you have a lot less chance of being canceled for crazy comment. YouTube, you will be blocked. YouTube is just that strict, and we should know this by now, people. Alright. Enough of my political lecturing there, because I want to get to the I want to get to the solution. Alright, so I what can I start with? So, what's the language of this body? Seems to be secretive, it seems to be modern wisdom, either erased it or just forgot about it, and how can we learn? Because it is communicating with us, it's just we either ignore it or we just don't understand it. Or we just or we just refuse. Oh, I'm gonna tough it out, even though I know my arm is about to fall apart.

SPEAKER_01: 15:52

Well, I think that uh and first I want to say everyone should be a bit skeptical. I don't think you should just believe anybody. I think things need to have make some logical sense as well. And what I do want to say is that what I found, and this is why I say wisdom, that every part of your body actually has logic and wisdom if we were to discover it. And a lot of it we actually know naturally, we we say things like, this person's a pain in the neck, right? We we say that we're it's it's in our language. And when you actually break that down and you look at that, you start to go, well, hold on, the throat, which is in front, right? So you've got the throat and the neck, is about communication. It's about us expressing something that makes us uniquely ourselves, that is connected to our thinking, connected to our experience of life, our perspective on life. So when we don't communicate, when we uh and many people don't on based on so many reasons, which is what is then becomes stored in this part of the body. So if you you know you were talking about being, you know, when you were a teenager and struggling, well, a lot of teenagers struggle with communication, right? And not feeling understood, not feeling like somebody gets you. And when when that happens early on in life, which happened for most people, because our parents are, you know, from a different generation, and most parents have not been taught how to be parents. My daughter says this to me at different times. She says, Mom, at times when I get upset, I just have to remind myself that this is your first time here being a parent with me. Right? You haven't been a parent, you know, before, in a sense of this lifetime. And so you're learning with me. You're learning how to be a parent as I'm growing up, which I think is so wise and beautiful. And so, you know, we we have challenges because we were told to shut down, we were shut down, whether it was our parents, whether it was at school, whether it was, you know, our siblings, our friends, as we were growing up, probably 99.999% of people were shut down. And so we have this aspect sitting within us. And then what happens is that, you know, again, you know, we say something and somebody disagrees, and rather than disagreeing in a way that, you know, we're having a debate. This is why I think it was so it's so sad with what happened, because it was about debating with different people, you know, and I live in Australia, so I don't, you know, I'm not on the right or the left or the center of politics. I just try and learn and understand what's happening. But the point was that, you know, when we can't talk about things, we shut down and then we push it back. And we push things, you know, and and we'll we'll say it subconsciously, right? We we're not aware that we're doing it. And so we're pushing it into the back because the kind of the back of our mind, so to speak. But because communication is connected to your throat, we'll push it into the nick. And so we'll we'll uh and it's in the language, you know. So we'll say pain, this person's a pain in the neck, because we actually know that that's on some level we're doing that. We're pushing a communication back. And now we're we're saying this person potentially caused it, or it's you know, there's he that they're a pain, they're causing a pain. So when we start to look at the languaging, we can see the things in it. But if we break the body down in a logical way, I'm very, very logical. I I hate things that are not logical, right? And even spirituality, I studied it as a science. So when we're looking at the area around, you know, our brain, our head, we start to ask a question, what does it do? What's it for? You know, and so everybody pretty much I would say would say that we use this area for thinking, right? I mean, that's a fact. And so we use this area to concentrate, to think, to come up with ideas. So when this so when your head breaks down, when you start to have pain, when you have start to have nervous system issues, when when you start with when people have Alzheimer's as they get older, we need to look at that area and go, what could cause it? And the obvious most logical thing to start with is thinking, right? How am I thinking? Is my thinking constantly limiting and negative and fear-based and stressed and you know, creating tension, or is my thinking expansive and open to new perspectives and open to new points of view and evolving and trying to see, even you know, I know this is a political show anyway, just trying to see, well, if we're talking about left, right, and center, where you know, where do I agree with people on the left or disagree and why? But can I understand why they're saying things the way they are? Can I understand why the people on the right believe what they believe? You know, rather than just saying they're wrong, right? So when you just do that, when you just judge, and I believe that Jung originally came up with this incredible understanding of archetypes. So when we, you know, look at psychology, which, you know, I've looked at all as many aspects as I can, let's just say, because there's a lot. When we're looking psychologically, we go, so the archetype that is around our head, when we're, you know, constantly critiquing everyone is a judge. It's like there's literally a judge sitting there going, yep, I'm judging, you're wrong, I'm right. But the idea of us as a human spiritual being is to evolve and to be okay with each other, even if we have different perspectives as opposed to killing each other because we have different perspectives, which is worse, like you know, we kind of almost say it's an animalistic, but it's actually worse because animals don't act like this, like you know, humans do often. And so again, sorry, coming back to the this understanding that we have headaches, for instance, if you if you look at headaches, it's often when you just you've had to enough, it's too much, you're overwhelmed, and the body goes, Okay, explode, can't think anymore, can't deal with this. And people who have headaches a lot, it's because that happened many a time, and your nervous system and your body has taught that to make you stop because it's so wise to make you relax, to make you just stop doing everything, you have to have pain. And so when we start to see the logic and the wisdom of the body, it it's it's not that we we don't go, oh, it's it's woo-woo, because it's actually not, it's it's very obvious. Like, let's bring it to the heart, for instance. We all know that the heart is about intimacy, it's about relationships. And we also can see in the world that the top five, you know, diseases that he that that kill people, you know, are related to the heart. And so when we look at that, we start to go, okay, food, you know, and everybody wants to bring it just to the physical, just food. Yet there's been a so many studies in little towns where people are all loving and connected, and I mean, you know, let's say majority, because you know we're gonna have all people, but supportive communities. So when they did experiments in supportive communities and people were given things to eat that are meant to be bad for the heart, you know, like really fatty, fattening foods or pastas or carbs, all the things that people say, oh, this is bad. Nobody, hardly anybody had heart issues because people were loving to each other and connected. So these are scientific experiments. So when we just and and this is what is painful when science does this, when they only want to look at one side. Science is meant to actually look at all the different sides without objectively. But when, you know, when they're when there's an agenda, there's usually money involved, right? And so we need to again, we need to research, we need to think, and we need to go, why are these people saying those things? Is this really true? And why are they saying that my body's not intelligent and cannot work with me if I understand it? Because I know, and I and I'm I'm sure you realize had had this experience. If I've broken up with somebody, my heart hurts. Like literally, it hurts, it's painful. I have anxiety, stress, and so on. But if I'm in a loving experience with someone, I feel it in my heart. I feel this expansion and nourishment, and I'm glowing. And so, how can it not be connected? Do you know it's it's like it's illogical. And when you are logical but open-minded and looking at things from different perspectives, life looks so different, and the body, the secret inside the body is not that secret. It's actually just wisdom and logic in us understanding it.

SPEAKER_00: 25:43

So I think it's better to say it is forgotten, maybe. Maybe that's a better word. Yeah, that that I agree. The whole slurns reframing right on the spot. You know, we call not because we just don't know. I think intuitively we do know, but we go by this modern science box, if you will. No, no, no, no, no. Can I go outside the box? No, no, what for some of God? What? The spiritual stuff? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Some of them, but those who are open to it, logic, connecting these dots, fusing the disciplines together, which really a smart person will do. Let's just be honest. They'd come up with a more holistic, precise solution. So they're just okay, chemo treatment, cut this part off, you're done. I'm not a surgeon, I'm not a medical expert, so don't come to me for medical advice. I'm just telling you what happens, okay? That's just I'm just gonna say that right off the bat because I don't want anyone coming to any any inappropriate person for medical advice. You still go to your doctor, they are useful. At the same time, you gotta be your own advocate for your body and communicate with it. That's all I'm saying. The doctor's part of the equation, don't just throw them out. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't be crazy. Just have a part of the equation, don't just throw them out.

SPEAKER_01: 27:10

Some people say, Or if I can add, maybe find a doctor who's open-minded and who is open to not just putting medication into your body if you don't need it, but actually looking at alternatives. And, you know, what I do want to say, what was amazing for me when I actually did write my book, you know, The Secret Language of the Body, which is, you know, and I use the word secret so that people would be curious to find out. And what I did originally is I sent the book before it was published, way before it was published, to every kind of practitioner, both in the medical field that I was aware was a little bit open-minded to get feedback, as well as in you know, practitioners who were, you know, available to me to contact in the holistic field. And I said to them, please, I ask you to read my book. And if if I said anything that is illogical, wrong, doesn't make any sense, come back to me before I have it published, right? Tell me. And the amount of incredible I I would cry, right? Incredible testimonials and sharings that doctors sent to me. It was like doctors the most, because I was like, you know, I I actually want to open this conversation and open the door. And, you know, I I had a forward from Dr. Bernie Siegel, who's actually not related. I wish he was, but no, you know, partly because he was one of the first who was, you know, you mentioned cancer several times, who was in the that field talking about it and seeing that we can help people have who are open to it, have a different quality of life if maybe we didn't use really harsh chemicals. And we've had countless people, I mean, we lots of people still choose, like you said, to do, you know, chemotherapy and radiation. And they often then try to talk about how many people die from it. And they often talk about how many people may die from doing something natural, because again, it suits the narrative, I believe, of pharmaceutical companies who make a lot of money out of, you know, all sorts of things that they sell and medication that they sell. And the question is not whether you take it or not, but whether you've done the research and it's right for you. Right? Is it right for you? Because maybe it is right for somebody and it will save their life. And I know plenty of people who've ti who've done radiation and and chemotherapy and their life was saved. But you have to be aware that again, I work with a lot of these people, that many of them have spent. Speaking to somebody literally days ago who had radiation and and and chemotherapy and she survived. She said, It's like I'm not myself. Can you help me to become myself? It's like I can't think in the same way. I don't have the vitality. And there's reasons for it. I would be all for medication if you didn't have side effects, right? It's it's that you have to look at all the parts of the story. And then I know people like my ex-husband, who we're still great friends with, and he was diagnosed, I think maybe six years ago or seven years ago with uh I think almost seven years ago, with blood cancer, cancer in the I think it was lymphatic, and he sorry, no, thinking of someone else, bone marrow, bone marrow. And he was told that he had one year to live by a doctor, which I don't think doctors should be doing that. I think that's really, you know, like not a great way to communicate with somebody because you don't know. You actually don't know. And he chose to do it, you know, to do everything the natural way, and he was constantly threatened and and uh uh by doctors and and and told you're gonna die and all of this stuff, you know, all the fear that you can have. And he chose not to do that, and he chose to go down the natural way, and he's still alive and doesn't have any side effects, you know, and so everyone is different and needs to the the idea is to have free choice, and that's what we're fighting at the moment is that can we actually learn to think for ourselves and to research things ourselves before we make up our minds, as opposed to not research, not think and just believe somebody without actually understanding what is the reason for saying that. And that's why I think you should be skeptical but open-minded, but also research. I think everybody should be a researcher.

SPEAKER_00: 31:59

You know, I agree with that completely. If you're gonna be skeptical, at least, do your research, find options out there, and I've said this before your first doctor's bag, get a second one, or a third one who understands you or who are who is I would say two ways. Either they meet you halfway, I'll say that's more like the moderate, or they will somehow support whatever you're doing for yourself while they're taking medication. I mean, eventually, you know, those who are natural, they're gonna go all natural. Some people do small changes. I mean, some just do leaps. It's I don't I don't want to take this pill because it might make me moody, it might make me have suicidal thoughts. Some of that has been side effects. You know, it's uh this is not me making this stuff up. Look, read the back. Stop reading the front, read the back. Listen to commercials when he's when they say those side effects real fast. Yeah, they list a lot of bad side effects really quickly, okay? You know, and no, I I agree. And big big pharma is real powerful in America, so they're doing that as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're everywhere. Yeah, I think, yeah. My apologies if America did damage to your people, especially through Big Pharma, because that's the one that I especially during the COVID thing, which I'm not gonna get to a lot. It showed how much power they got. Yeah, I mean, nothing, nothing shows it like the COVID-19 pandemic. Not a conspiracy theorist, but look, but look at look at their contracts. You can sue the government, not them that made a drug. Okay, a lot of world governments had to sign that up. That's all I'm gonna say. That's just one clear example about how powerful Big Pharma is globally. Okay, all right, and and I'm not gonna get into it because we don't focus on the healing, we want to focus on the good stuff, we want to focus on that. But I'm just giving you why you should at least think about alternatives. Be skeptical with an open mind. Don't be don't be a cynic, closed-minded person. Oh no mad, I'm gonna die anyways. Yeah, of course you're gonna die. You're not trying, you gave up on life, you checked out. It's gonna, I mean, it's gonna take a miracle as I've seen it happen to people that was that was once suicidal. And of course, of sadly, there's those that end their life, which is again another tragedy. Uh I think you touched on this a little bit, but I'm gonna ask this a little more direct. I mean, we already know the illness in the physical level, right? It's very simple. Got a headache, you feel like your head is in pain. But what don't the people talk about? And I mean, I think you already touched it, you already said agendas, they pay money for doctors just to skew their communication and information a certain way. I mean, is it also emotional and spiritual as well with these illnesses?

SPEAKER_01: 34:58

Well, absolutely. I think I mean there's so much to it. So a lot of people talk about, for instance, that when somebody passes over, they've done these experiments that the body weighs less, right? Even if it's like a I don't know, it we're talking grams, but still. So what happens, what happens there is a good question. And then we've got for me, when I've seen somebody who's passed, what was really fascinating, and I'll come back to what the medical system doesn't teach, is that the shape of the body actually it it's almost like the body goes from being, you know, this shape to becoming a bag, like it everything just falls like falls. And it it it's like we don't have a shape anymore. And so people who studied more kind of spirituality, it's say, and had for me for instance, I had an experience of healing myself when I was younger. So I went from being having debilitating back pain, digestive issues, rises all over my skin, to anxiety, to discovering that this language in my body exists and that it it's it's not like it's talking to you the way that you and I speak, right? It's speaking to you through sensations, through pains, through stuckness, through feelings, through just not being like going through intuition, through not being right inside yourself, through blockages, through how you can't think, through lack of energy, through all sorts of you know, hot and cold sensations and obviously pain. When we start to look at it, and and this was what I did, I started asking questions. I started going within without necessarily knowing how to do it first, but realizing that I was going to see so many practitioners, and it was just I was circling around because of my belief that they would know the answer. They would tell me the answer. And what I realized, the way I got my answers, was through recalling events, memories, and seeing where my perspective was and how it was actually stuck and hurting me, and changing that perspective as the beginning of this experience and acknowledging it and going, oh my God, that's where I was stuck. And I also realized that a lot of the things that my family and my grandparents in particular, who had been through the war and saw so much destruction and death and just you know horrific experiences, they didn't talk about again. So communication again, they shut it down. And as I and I was a sponge for just because many of us are, especially as children, we want to fix whatever's going on in our environment and we don't know how to. Energetically, we are energetic beings. We feel energy wherever we go. We go, oh, good energy here, oh, this feels really bad. Right. And so we we we try, and we often take responsibility without knowing as children for our family, because we want to fix it. Because that's our survival is based on, you know, at that at young age, uh uh the parents are okay and looking after us. And so I started learning about, you know, just turning things around by understanding our stories, but I also I guess an ability that my great-grandmother had to a degree, maybe slightly different to me, of seeing and sensing what's going on in people's bodies, wake up inside of me. So it started by me actually seeing my spine and all the inflammation in it. And then I realized I could do it with other people. Uh, which is how I ended up writing my book, which I have here as well, with the secret language of your body, was by connecting to people and figuring this stuff out that I'm talking about, about the wisdom of the body and how logical it was as well. And one of the things I realized is we have these subtle bodies that medicine doesn't seem to talk about. And one of those bodies is called the etheric, or I you know, in what I've studied, it's called the etheric body. So it's actually the copy of the physical body and it holds the physical body together, and so and it also stops you from when you eat food from having, you know, like when somebody dies, the smell that comes out, it's like it's it's intense, right? The body just goes into degeneration and and the etheric body stops us from you know from smelling like a dead person, essentially. And when it leaves, that's why why the smell is so bad. So when we and because it ho and you can see it, and and and that's why it's so sad that medicine is still a little far from this. And then we have things like when somebody's arm or leg gets chopped off, why do people say I still feel my leg? Well, or I still feel pain there. It's actually because they have an etheric leg. Otherwise, they wouldn't say this. It's the same thing. So then we have this astral body as well, which is our emotions, our sensations, uh pain. Pain is not a physical thing. And we know that because if you help somebody change their emotion, the pain will move most of the time. And I know because I've done thousands and thousands and thousands of these, you know, sessions with people and and groups. And so when we start to kind of recognize these aspects and go, well, actually, this actual body, this emotional body is intertwined with the nervous system, which is why we're so affected by our emotions and why many of the nervous system disorders if you look at somebody's life, it'll there'll be a trauma before that happened. Or, you know, when somebody I just had an experience with somebody with dementia, which was really interesting. And and I my grandfather had dementia. I I I've been around it. And this particular pastor, I've known her for maybe almost 20 years. And she, her daughter, she lives in Europe and I was visiting, and her daughter said to me, you know, I just like, tell me something, tune in, give me something. And I was like, I don't know how to tell you this, but the reason, the real reason this is happening is because when this lady got divorced, she never it was like she never completed this story. You know, she she's just been holding on to pain and trauma around this divorce, even though it was 20 years ago. And I was like, I don't know what to say because it needs to be resolved without re resolution, and I don't know if it can or can't at this point, but without resolution, I don't think she's gonna get any better or even because she was getting worse really quickly. And so I didn't actually expect anything to happen from having this conversation with this lady's daughter, and again, it was progressive, pretty bad. So a few days ago, I sent her a message and I said, please let me know how you know because I love this lady, she's been like a mother figure for me. How is she going? And she said to me, Oh my god, Ina, something incredible happened after you, you know, we spoke. My mother and my father, after not speaking at all for over 15 years, at all, not even one word to each other, started talking to each other weekly. And she said, My mother is so so much better. There is so much we can do if we understand to help ourselves and to help others.

SPEAKER_00: 43:04

Yeah, but stop relying on our biases and close off paths. That could be actually the solution. Sometimes I'm just gonna say this we are our own worst enemy. When it comes to these problems. I mean, we are we are part of we are you know part of the problem. I know it's a blunt, very insensive way to say it, but we do contribute a lot to our own problems, even spiritually, emotionally, but that's why it's tough to be spiritual because it actually requires a lot of bravery, not just open-mindedness, to go through what you need to go through. Um is it gonna make you heal? Yeah, sure. It it is. But you have to really go through I would say some of the trials, unless there is an easier way, I will tell you already. I will even sell it. I said, Drink this uh Ethereal Purifier, wherever the heck it is. All your problems will go away. No, but life doesn't work that way. We gotta work it. We it it requires work. There's no shortcuts. If anyone's trying to show sell you a shortcut, that's a scammer. Okay? Scammer, scammer, scammer. That's all I'm gonna say about that. And I think Oh, you already gave examples about someone being emotionally overwhelmed. You already allude to that. I mean, Rachel, physical pain. I mean, just in general, how do how do they how do they start healing and when do they notice progress? Is my question.

SPEAKER_01: 44:36

How many hours do we have?

SPEAKER_00: 44:38

So I still got time.

SPEAKER_01: 44:42

So I'm actually writing a book at the moment, and this book is about different stages of healing. Because when we I really believe that so much is about understanding, right? If we can understand things like you just said, which is so important, we will not be going for quick fixes. And I want people to actually, I really want people to be skeptical about anybody, especially somebody who says they do healing, that says that everything is instant and and and they can just heal you instantaneously because that's not how this works. And coming back, if I can just say a little bit about these energy bodies, so a lot of people in the healing field are mainly aware of kind of the this astral body, this emotional body, this that has that where you can change your emotion and your pain can release, or your you can change your thought pattern and you can something can change in your life, and what you couldn't do before, you can do now. And that is important, but what they like to do to sell you their course or their product is to say that all you have to do is do it for 30 days. And this is the biggest lie, and this is why this industry has, you know, that people should be skeptical because what these people don't understand is that the etheric body is actually the body of memory. They don't know this at all. And the etheric body is also the body connected to ancestry and vitality and energy. And to change things in the etheric body takes time, and often at least 12 months, at least, at least, of you having new habits and new ways of living and and seeing life. It it is a practice to change, right? It's it's it usually requires an awareness and a daily practice of doing things. And so when we realize this, then we can make real progress. And this is why I decided that I was gonna write this book on this different stages of healing. Because when we start with the first stage, the first stage of healing where most people start is suffering, and they just go, I'm suffering, and I just want the suffering to end. Give me anything because I'm in pain, I'm struggling. That could be emotional, mental pain, it physical pain, whichever pain. You know, loss loss is one of the most horrific pains because you just feel so helpless. You feel like there's nothing you can do, and and you feel like, and I know because I've had a child, a baby that died. So you like this loss where you just you don't know what to do, you don't know how to how to go on often, and so you're you're stuck in this victim perspective and suffering and struggle. And like I said, I I I'm very aware I've had a lot of loss in my life of this, and then you kind of as you go through the stage, nobody can, it's very hard for people to say anything because you kind of have to go through it to a degree. The problem is when you get stuck in it and get really negative. It's good to be skeptical, but not negative and saying when people come to me sometimes and they go, I've done everything and nothing's worked, and I'll say, Okay, what have you done? And they'll tell me, and I'll be thinking to myself, Do you actually haven't done anything that requires work, right? That requires effort. You've done everything that is not what you are meant to do to move out of this situation. And because you're trying to understand it on the surface, as opposed to that this astral body that is connected to your soul is who you are internally and why you're so different to everybody else. Even if you have two sisters that are twins, you're still going to be different to your twin sisters because you are unique. My dad's got a twin sister and they're complete opposites to each other. So, what I'm saying is that when we start to understand that the healing happens through stages. So, in that first stage, you're stuck, and then you go into a second stage. And the second stage, you often do want this magic, like you want somebody to just take it away, magical cure. And often as you're going through that stage, it will get to a place where you go, well, actually, every so-called magical cure has a side effect to it. And maybe it's not so magical. And maybe you start to go, maybe there's an opportunity for me to be teachable and to go, there's more to it. I don't have to, and and and I need to get to know the person, whether it is a doctor, like you said. I go to a doctor sometimes just because I want to get a blood test or something, and she'll go, What do you think about this, Ina? Oh, she said the last time I saw her, she said, I signed up to one of your courses, so you'll see me there. And she's like, I was looking at your book and it said this. So I go to doctors who are open-minded. And the first time I came there, I didn't know she even knew anything about my book or what I do. And she was like, Hey, I have your book here and your cards, and you know, let's talk about this. So they are definitely open-minded doctors. And again, so these stages are about us understanding and not rushing and honoring ourselves and and going, like your question, how do we know that we're healing? Because we're moving through these stages. So the second stage is like, maybe there's more, maybe I can be teachable. And then we go to the third stage and we go, even though I didn't make myself sick by going, okay, I'm gonna make my liver sick or I'm gonna make my spleen not work, you didn't do that consciously, nobody does. But the question becomes is if I can understand what occurred in my life experience first, starting with my life, to cause this, and maybe it's not one thing, maybe there's many things, and maybe I can understand what where I got it from from in terms of my family. What did they do? What did they believe? What how did they live? I might have wisdom that I can work with that tells me that I'm, you know, I'm a soul spirit being that can change things because I can think for myself and I can change my perspectives. And whether I say this, and I think you kind of mentioned this in a tiny way, healing is not the same as curing. So it's not like I'm gonna cut off this part of your body now if you haven't had the symptoms for five years, you cured. Healing is nothing like that. Healing is you going, even though I didn't consciously make my body sick, I want to take responsibility by learning about myself and going, what can I do? What is in my power to do to change things? And it could be I can eat better. You know, it could start from that. I can detox my body, I can become more aware of my environment. So maybe it starts from more of the basic things, and then you go deeper and you see you you you explore energy. So the first three stages of healing is all about can we get to the place of realizing that I can be involved in this and that that there is a wisdom in my body. And then in stage four is when you start to actually potentially see results because you start to go, I can do something about this. Who can I learn from? And ideally, they're not giving me a one process fits all, because that's medical system in some ways, one drug for everybody, whatever your life story is, you know, when it comes to a particular condition or variations similar, pretty much the same thing, you know, with different companies. Here we're trying to connect the pieces of your story and going, what caused this part of your body that is holding particular wisdom and emotions to break down? And here is where we start to become more specific. And we don't just say, I have anger. We say, hold on a sec, where does this anger come from? Oh, I feel like I have the you know, my anger is in my liver. And this is actually the liver is connected to an energy center, and this energy center is all about how I felt when I was a teenager, and this side of the body is actually connected more to the right, which is masculine. We have masculine and feminine within within us. So let me let me actually bring this, you know, into more detailed exploration. What was my relationship like with the most important males in my life when I was a teenager? Did I have a good relationship, let's start, with my father or father figure? Or were there a lot of conflict? What was I told? How was I treated? Maybe I have anger around that, but now I've suppressed it, so I don't think about it. But my body, my etheric body, remembers and keeps sending that information into my physical liver. And so it's asking me to grow. It's asking me to do something about this, it's asking me to work on my relationship both with myself as a person that maybe doesn't value myself in the same way that I would have if I had a great relationship with my father or father figure or somebody who was important, a male. And now I maybe I have males in my life who put me down as well. Maybe I can do something about this as well as eating healthier. So let's not just do one thing and cleansing, and my health will become so much better. So we're we're taking responsibility for different aspects, not just one, but going and let me find people that can help me to learn about this and understand this.

SPEAKER_00: 54:43

You know what? I think you already provided so much. I normally will be curious about ancestry, but based on what you said, people in the comments, I'm gonna have you do something I don't normally do. Critical thinking. What do you think? What do you think about what Ina just said, right? Let's just start with that. Do you agree? Disagree? Are you mixed? And yeah, I can understand one and agree with one. I'm not sure about two, maybe three I agree with. Put that down in the comment section. This is constructive. I don't want to hear stupid comments like, oh, the host is stupid, Ina's crazy. I'm gonna ignore you. That's not why I'm you know, I'm just gonna ignore that, and I'm not gonna even tell her that. Okay, because she'll need to be bothered with that. She's a very busy, productive woman. She'll need those stupid comments. I know she can ignore it, I know she's tough. That's not the point. It's about respecting time. I will deal with that because this is my show. I have to deal with it, unfortunately. And I've skimmed through some of the comments. Alright, it's not gonna hurt me, alright? You know, but you did mention so much. You know, the ethereal body, this invisible body that carries the memories. And I love that example. You say, Oh, chop the leg off, but yeah, I still feel like I got my leg.

SPEAKER_01: 56:00

I feel like I got my leg, but it's off. Can I just add one thing to it? Because I I forgot and I really wanted to say this.

SPEAKER_00: 56:07

Sure.

SPEAKER_01: 56:07

So when people get organ transplants, again, so we we need to see this, because we'll come back if you can hold that thought with the etheric body, but come back to the astral, which is our emotions and who we were. And this is no one. So when people get organ transplants, they often change, their personality changes. This is actually go research this. Their personality often changes, and when you trace it back for the for the like the science that has done this, like scientists who have looked into this, they will find that all of a sudden this person's likes and dislikes change. They like rice or they like something that they've never liked before. They they want to go to visit a place that that person who died who gave them the organ, or sometimes they they haven't died, they're alive, who gave them, you know, maybe it's a kidney or something. That that's what they loved. How do we explain this? We we cannot explain it unless we start to actually look at and understand what the astral body does based on people, and it's just not myself, like I've learned this from studying people that came before me who had way more understanding than I had when I learned it, or still probably do. And you know, people who could sense that we are not just a physical body, that we are a soul meets our ancestry, meets our own ego, our sense of self, our ability to think for ourselves, our individuality, our spirit. And so when we're willing to break this down and and and not just be woo-woo or generalized, but actually really, really specific and look at things where it's just it they're indisputable. You cannot dispute something that is just like like we spoke about the etheric body and the the leg, but without this astral we you wouldn't feel the pain, right? The pain and and this is why the last thing I'm gonna say about this, and I can talk about this for for weeks, months, probably years. When you fall asleep, let's say you have a lot of pain, right? But you fall asleep and you go into a deep sleep, you don't you don't experience pain. And the reason you don't experience pain is because and you are not even conscious, because this astral body gives you consciousness. And so most people have waken up sometimes with a thud where they're they're like, oh, and this is because when we go to sleep, this astral body actually goes out and it goes into a spiritual world to recover because we are a spiritual being, and when it comes back, and and that's why you don't have consciousness, and when it comes back, it brings consciousness back, and that's why we don't have pain when we're in deep sleep, because that's the body connected to pain and pleasure and all sensations.

SPEAKER_00: 58:59

You heard it, you heard it here, folks. You know, you're not the first person that said that. Out of someone who have studied ghosts in depth, said the same thing, even with I'm just gonna mention shoutout to Tina Irwin, great guest, by the way. So when you drink alcoholic beverages, different spirits take over. Why these person acting weird and crazy? I think that's their third that's the you know, the spirits mingling, messing around. Why do you think personals look kind of funny? And yeah, I mean, that's one example, or they get very aggressive, or they get so silly and giggly. There's different examples of this. Yeah. Right? I mean, I gotta give her a shout out because she's you know, and you know what I believe that. And I'm just gonna say this I used to be an alcoholic, and I was a different person. I drank. I would I had two modes. I was either real angry, real scary, or I was super comedic. I was so funny and silly, I make a fool out of myself. So to say. To the spiritualist people, you understand this, but the skeptics do research to either debunk or confirm this. Depending on what camp you are, doesn't matter. Do research. Look, and both of these people, I'm gonna say in common, they came from a logical scientific perspective, mixing this together. Okay. I mean, thank goodness I decided to be a spiritualist because it's just been so enlightening. I I doubt I would have done this podcast. I'm telling you this much. It gave me this little inspirational. Thank you for guests like Ina, obviously, and others. This is about Ina now. Tina, you already got your shout out. Goodbye now. But this is about Ina now. And this is, and you're gonna hear more about this because I think this needs to be digged deep into. We are more than just a physical body. It's silly to think we have a physical body. There's things, there are visible forces that are happening right now. I mean, wind. Can you see wind? But yeah, it blows. It affects the temperature. Wi-Fi. Wi-Fi is mostly invisible. The reception, all that. Do you need to see it to believe it? It's closed-minded, just to say it. It's foolish. So be skeptically open-minded. I'm gonna just keep repeating that. And you know what? You know what? Organ transplant ancestry, use your imagination, how their trauma has led to you. So I'm just gonna say do some scientific studies because there's signs now proving that whatever mommy, daddy's trauma, unresolved trauma, is transferred to the kid. Scientifically, there's proof of that now. Look into it, do some Google research. That's my that's my own call to action. Not just to see if Ina's right, see if there's actually wisdom to it. Because I don't want you to just accept everything face value. You also you're also foolish. Or just be closed-minded to everything. There's a balance. Be skeptical, be open-minded, question things little by little. Okay, this doesn't make sense. This part makes sense. Okay, that's all I'm suggesting. And you know what? Let's do some shames play. She already alluded to her book, The Secret. I'm pretty sure I'm gonna butcher the title The Secret Language Robotics. Look at that, that nice, beautiful. I think it looks like an orangey yellow cover. And it looks like that's a medical symbol. Ooh, a little provocative right there. It's purple and blue, by the way. And I'm gonna have I'm gonna put the link to that book in the description. And of course, her her website. Let me see if we got social medias before I start blabbering. Yeah, she's she has a Facebook and Instagram. All those links is gonna be in the description. Any any other plug-in you wanna put?

SPEAKER_01: 1:02:50

What I really encourage people to do is if you're curious, then actually go to my website, which is innerseagle.com, and explore. But in particular, go to the masterclasses that I'm teaching. And if you want to if if you're at the beginning of this journey, then go to innerseagle.com forward slash secret. And this is where I give you a lot of logical understandings, but also some processes that you can work with. And if you're a little bit further on, just go to InnerSeagle slash masterclass and you'll go in a little more of a deeper dive into what healing is all about.

SPEAKER_00: 1:03:36

And guess what? Some of it is free too.

SPEAKER_01: 1:03:39

Oh, it is free. It is there's a free.

SPEAKER_00: 1:03:42

I don't want to hear, I don't want to see the comments, I don't have the money. I don't want to see that at all. You're just either messing with me or the kook is controlling, or you're just you just don't want to do it, okay? I time maybe, but if you really want to put importance into restoring yourself, you will make the time for it. Because people make time for things that are important to them, even with chaotic, busy schedules. CEOs do it, very successful people do it. You can do it too. You just gotta prioritize. Is watching cat memes. Oh, yeah, but she's very excited. You know, watching cat memes is good, but if you want to focus on healing, put more time to healing than watching cat memes. Go right ahead.

SPEAKER_01: 1:04:31

Sorry for interrupting. I think what's really interesting with time, because I just think it's so important that you said this, that the way that I've seen it work is that when you don't give yourself time, especially for your health, especially for your knowing yourself, and healing is about health meets knowing yourself, then what it ends up happening is that you end up having time because your body ends up breaking down because you didn't give it the time before it broke down, and then you have time because you cannot, you know, I have seen so many people end up with, you know, all sorts of health issues and or or issues that are challenging them that they cannot leave their bed because that now they're sick or they and now they have time. But what I encourage people to do is do not wait until you're in the hospital or you're really sick, where you will have time to actually look after yourself. It's it's it's literally the worst way. Prevent, prevent the sickness, prevent the you know, potential injury, potential challenge by getting to know yourself. And that's what we're actually saying at the end of the day. Healing is so much about me knowing who I am and then working with that.

SPEAKER_00: 1:05:52

You know that's very, very wise. And for those of you who are in a hospital or dealing with injuries, take it as a lesson, turn it to a lesson. I know it's painful, I know it's difficult, turn it to a lesson. Masterclass and whatever content she has can be the solution for what you're going through, especially if it's beyond physical. If if everything was physical pain, this stuff will not be needed. But we a lot more than our physical bodies. So she started digging deeper. And ironically, the dig the more research you do, you realize how ignorant you really are. There's always a lot more than you realize. And you know, ironically, that is wisdom. That is wisdom. You know, if you say I know everything, you're an idiot. Then how do you explain my legs chopped off? Yeah, I feel like I got a leg. Oh, you're a crazy person. Okay, good for you. You just proved everyone that you're an ignorant person right there. And you know what? Goodbye. You're not in the conversation. No, this is some people you gotta push away. Some people are toxic. Let's be honest. And that's all I'm gonna say about that. Not sure Ina's gonna agree with that or not, but that's I will do with someone who's if I'm in the hospital, but I don't want cry, I don't want crying tears, feel sorry for me. I'll call security, get that person booted right out. I want laughs, I want this. Especially if I'm if I'm gonna be in the hospital, I want you. Oh, nope, security. I don't want to deal with that. I know what's good for me, and I don't care if I sound like a crazy person to you. They can say, oh, this host is crazy. Well, you know what? I think you're crazier because you want to absorb every bad thing. And a lot of people just don't know. But I made it clear to them before, so I don't feel bad. I've won them before. If I'm in the hospital, if we're doing tears, no, no, no, no, I could do that with me and the higher power. Thank you very much. I only owe you crazy people that are some of you are disingenuous, okay? I don't need that. So get out, get out, get out. And then those who are good, you stay. That's it. I want good vibes, good vibes. Come on, youngins. You can understand that, okay? And then, of course, the more traditional people, I already explained that to you. You don't need that. You you're you're pretty wise. All right, that's what I'm gonna say. Now, she said a lot. I'll know we dig deeper, but she already said more than enough. And just one brave question I got. You want anything else you want to add before I wrap this up?

SPEAKER_01: 1:08:24

I think the biggest thing is that when we come back to ourselves, we have power. We have an ability to make changes, we have an ability to look at things from different perspectives and understand things and explore. And for some people, you might go really deep in your explorations and look at, as you said, ancestry and trauma and what have my parents or grandparents or great-grandparents gone through that is affecting me. And for some people, that's too much. And the idea is to just start with self-ref a little bit of self-reflection, and maybe the maybe you'll start with the idea of maybe I could go away and look at my diet, or maybe I can look at how stress affects me. I mean, that is not a new concept by any stretch of imagination. I know most people are in the medical profession have some awareness of this now, of how stress affects us. So the question is not whether you go as deep in, you know, as I have, you know, or some others and look at maybe ghosts or look at, you know, spirituality from that perspective. But the question is, where are you willing to open your mind and start with healthy skepticism, with asking questions? I'm the biggest believer of asking questions, of stretching yourself and of reflecting and going, what can I discover? And at the end of the day, you're your best researcher. And there's Google, but there's many other ways to research and look into things. And, you know, start by coming back to yourself and going, can I be a person, especially when it comes to your health, that can take some responsibility, that can do something towards your health. And maybe you do, you know, at times we most people may choose to go down the medical profession. Like, if I break my leg, I would be in the hospital asking for doctors to help me, right? I wouldn't be just self-healing a broken leg, personally. You know, so we have to be balanced. But, you know, if there are things in my body that I can work with or understand or do myself without having to take any medication, then I'm gonna choose that. Because every time I take medication, I I do want to I want to understand what is the side effect. And if I want to be healthy, I want to have as many side effects and you know, as healthier organs in my body as is possible. So what I'm saying is we need medicine, but you also need to know that there's many things that the doctors are not aware of. I haven't been taught. That's why I have so many nurses who come to me. If you said to me, tell me one profession where you have the most people from that profession, it's teachers and nurses out of any profession that I've had, and that I've had many a doctor or even surgeons come to me from, you know, and psychiatrists and psychologists who've gone, I want to learn more. Tell me about this with everybody, let me, you know, let me understand it because personally I have spent a lot of my life, I haven't had other jobs really since I was 21. I spent most of my life researching and studying. I have hundreds and hundreds of books in my library, because I feel like I have a library that are there to help me understand, and a lot of them based on science, because I want to understand. So I encourage you to be curious. Be don't just believe anybody, but don't, like you said, don't block yourself and be your own best researcher first. Ask as many questions as possible and be open to another perspective, and then go and research that perspective before you put something in your mouth first, but also before you actually say not, you know, like be completely skeptical and don't believe and put everyone down. It's just like be a wise person. That's what I encourage people to be. Be your own wise being, someone who can guide yourself in your life. Because at the end of the day, the only person that really guides you is you. So whether you believe something and you buy it or you don't comes back to you and your sense of self, and whether you know you are willing to take on the role, be your own leader, is what I say.

SPEAKER_00: 1:13:02

And that is wise indeed. Wise indeed. All of you who've been listening to this, listeners and viewers, this has been very, very, I would say enlightening. Very enlightening. Despite it started somber, but it's definitely ending in a more positive note. I mean, you kind of get the general feel. It started somber because of a recent event that was tragic, but at least it ended in a happy note. I'm not doing that again, unless I don't know, unless I screw up. That's all I'm gonna say. But other than that, it ended a lighter note. You can tell we both are more. I would say I'm definitely more cheerful. I'm not gonna be tone-deaf. Oh, it already is okay. We're all fine and dandy. Well, the whole world could be falling apart. I'm not asking for that. You know that's just mental illness. That's just craziness right there. I'm never gonna ask for that. Okay, I'm from New York, okay? If you act like that, we already think you're crazy, okay? That's a that's American New York thing right there. But anyways, let me wrap this up with my plug-in. So, like, comment, subscribe, share this with someone who believe could gain immense value from this. And if you're feeling a little generous, donate. You'll get a shout-out. I don't and haven't thought of ideas of exclusive episodes, but I will come up with a few. I have a few of the pipeline, and one of them I'm gonna show the action Bible. Bible presented in a comic book form. I think that's gonna be interesting. I think, especially if you want more young men getting to church, I think that's a good way to present it. Instead of just, you know, just some old dusty book with a bunch of old words that people don't understand. Let's just be honest. Pictures help. I'd say men are dumb, but you just gotta present it a certain way. It's gonna gravitate towards some of them. Uh, you know, it I think presentation and style of information matters. That's all I'm saying. Give a review, give an honest review, give it five star if it's awesome, and what made the episode awesome. And if it's a four-star, say it was good, but I will say this part needs a little more work. You know, that'll be an example for an honest review, okay? If you do it on Spotify, I will ignore you. I don't care for you. Okay, I'm just gonna say like that. You don't you don't follow instructions, I cannot feel bad for you. And the final part, join podmatch. Okay, it gets tiring going through email threads with guests. I gotta put this up, put this up with PodMatch, just a few clicks. Click on the message, click on the guest profile. I get a lot of things from the guests right there, and if they change it, it could be updated in real time instead of just going through our email, dig deeper again. I'm sorry, I gave the wrong one pager. I gotta dig again. No, that creates mess. Join podmatch, okay? And I'll give you the link below, the unique link. So, my listeners and viewers, once you complete this journey, you have a blessed day, afternoon, or night.