323- AI, Dating, And Vibes With Eric McHugh

We examine how incentives broke mainstream dating apps and how an AI matchmaker that learns from both people can realign dating around outcomes. The talk widens to data ownership, crypto marketplaces for real-world collectibles, and a spiritual lens on algorithms, feedback, and growth.

• AI-generated tags from real digital footprints
• Matching that learns from both sides of a chat
• Why swipe-first models skew the marketplace
• Date planning, debriefs, and constructive feedback
• Opt-in data monetisation with instant payouts
• ACES.fun and tokenised real-world collectibles
• Chain wars and retail-friendly crypto onramps
• Algorithms, attention, and emotional states
• Spiritual principles baked into product design
• Practical ways to turn critique into upgrades

Follow Eric McHugh at.,,

LinkedIn

https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericdouglasmchugh/

Dataing- AI Matchmaker

https://dataing.io/

Cryptocurrencies

https://aces.fun/

Spiritual Retreat

 https://www.dhamma.org/en-US/index

Chapters

• 0:00 Host Intro And Format Rant
• 2:45 AI, Web Eras, And Episode Setup
• 4:28 Guest Eric McHugh Joins
• 7:28 How The AI Matchmaker Works
• 11:40 Incentives And Dating App Monopolies
• 16:25 Relationship AI As Counselor And Planner
• 21:40 Communities, API, And Data Marketplace
• 26:20 Culture Critique Of Swipe Economy
• 31:10 Feedback Loops And Better Matching
• 36:40 Date Debriefs, Etiquette, And Growth
• 42:20 Algorithms, Fear Content, And Agency
• 48:50 Crypto Project: ACES.fun Explained
• 55:40 Chain Wars And Retail Onboarding
• 1:01:30 AI, Controversy, And Creative Use
• 1:07:10 Spiritual Foundations And Vibration

Transcript

SPEAKER_02: 0:14

Welcome everyone to Politically High Tech with your host, Elias. I have a great guest returning. We're gonna go back to season four when I first started doing video podcasting. Yeah, the first three seasons were only audio because one, I was more physician, and two, that was the major trend. Just being honest. I kinda like doing both, actually. So I know people's not consuming video podcasts as much to some degree. I blame you, Gen Z. You may call down the data, by the way, but it's okay. If I'm gonna be a stubborn old mule as a problem millennial, I'm gonna still do video and audio. So I'm gonna do bit both, okay? To me, it's harder go back. It's just hard for me to go backwards. I'm not gonna go to only audio. To me, that's that's like I'm going back in time. No no no no no no. I don't know. Maybe, or maybe you know, it can be so interactive on a part. I can just grab you through the screen, you come to my house. I don't know. It'd probably be that interactive at some point. That's probably web four, I don't know. Okay, maybe web four, but I'm probably gonna be going a little too ballistic there. So far, we're just I would say we're integrating web 3, and you know, web two has already been fully adopted like decades ago. Okay. Social media and all that, yeah, that's web, yeah, that's web two folks. Okay, with AI and look, AI is interesting. I I I'm still pro-AI, even though I'm aware of its limitations and silliness and all that. And before I have the guests introduced, we're gonna talk about first. I'm just giving you the story point. We're gonna talk about the dating impacts of AI and his product, okay? And then we're gonna see what goes from there. We might talk about silly videos and whatever other trends that I might not even be aware of because look, I would say my AI diving skills, I will say I'm kind of like an I would say I'm a more informed customer, so definitely better than an average customer. But I am not as good as someone with a tech background, so I'm kind of in the middle, okay? And that's where my tech expertise lies. But if I'm willing to learn it, I I've read code easily, so I'm pretty sure I can pick it up. I did so I did took an IQ test. I found out I have 170. I was actually pretty shocked. I thought it was like 110. Yeah. And but it's funny, I suck at chess, so don't think I'm gonna whip your ass at chess. It'll be the opposite, actually. You can actually whip my ass. So don't I'm not a chess master. I could brag about other things, but chess is not one of them, okay? I only beat some beginners, and that's it. That's all my accolades right there. And that's where it's gonna begin, that's where it's gonna end, okay? Before I keep on this rant because we're gonna talk about just AI trends, and we're gonna talk about AI day. I'm curious about what impact AI has done on. And you know, if you want to go back and go to a previous episode with Eric McHugh, that'll be episode 194. The link will be in the description. The last time we touched the topic, you only just did a surface level scratching, you know, shameless plug-in. So we get a little deeper to uh data in, you know, the world's first AI matchmaker, and you know, and then you know, let I'll gonna let him introduce himself, his you know, his name is Eric McHugh, and I'm gonna let him take it away. And my very first question to all guests, what do you want the audience and the view the the list, the listeners and the viewers to know?

SPEAKER_00: 3:32

Honestly, I don't really want them to know anything. Just going his blank. Yeah, I find it pretty cringery when people do leave like a long just like oh blah, uh my name is blah blah blah. I've done X, Y, and Z. I'm so fancy, look at me. I find that kind of grin, so I try to avoid it when we can. So since we're doing a free-flowing podcast, my name is Eric, and just take whatever you want from this podcast. Oh, very first.

SPEAKER_02: 3:54

He was more introductive, you know. He was friendly with the intro before, you know. We could go back to that recording. Uh we got to go back to the previous episodes to find out who he was and what he is and what he's currently doing. You know, you compare past and present, I guess. You know, that's a little activity for you audiences if you have enough time or you're cringe yourself, whatever. But I'm still gonna put the link so you can indulge in that for your convenience. Because you already did the intro there. Hey, hey, he's here for the second time, I'm okay with it. So if you don't want to say crap, you want to say he's a ghost, that's fine. Or I really don't, I could I really could care less. So let's start with this data ink thing, because we already say this is a world's first AI data matchmaker, and what's been the impact of this this product on so far?

SPEAKER_00: 4:41

So it's been pretty awesome. Dating is the first AI-powered matchmaking service. So we're an app in the app store, and what we do is we auto-generate dating profiles based on the user, the user's digital footprints. Let's say you create an account, you link your insta, you link all your social media, like your YouTube, your Pinterest, your photos, all that stuff. And then tags are generated on the back end, and then we use those tags to generate a dating profile for the user and generate matches for those users. So, for example, I could be into Muay Thai, so I get hashtag Muay Thai on my profile, and there's a high correlation between people who are into Muay Thai and people who go hiking, so it matches with people who like to go hiking, and then it creates matches from that way. And the reason dating is different than other dating apps is our incentive structure. So if you think about it logically, let's say we're Tinder, Bumble Hinge, I mean they're all by match.com, so it is pretty much a monopoly. The big three issues are first issue is it's hot or not, so swipe left, swipe right, that's not a way to know someone. The second issue is like top 5% of users get access to everyone on the app, creating a skewed marketplace. And the third issue is the incentive structure behind the apps. If I were on Tinder, I match with my future wife, whatever, we get married, we both leave the app. That results in a loss of a paying customer for Tinder. Tinder is working with Goldman Sachs, they would sell honestly anyone for a dollar. You can see why that creates a loop of people deleting that, down the app, deleting that, down the app. Whereas dating, after the match is made, it can act as a relationship buffer. And the cool thing about this is you can think of dating as a layer on top of ChatGPT. So we get all the benefits of ChatGPT. So all the upgrades that they're getting, we get that too, but we add a personalized layer of data for that. So it's actually kind of evolved because when you're building tech, the most random things happen. It's actually the most personalized LLM in the world right now because it's on top of ChatGPT and it's all my data on top of that. So it knows me extremely well. And the so we've actually seen people use dating as their main LLM, which is it wasn't planned, but it's also pretty sick. And another thing that different dating from ChatGPT is like, let's say, you know, people are asking like AI questions, like, what should I do for dinner? So and so did this. Um, like if I were to say Elias pissed me off, here's what he did. It'd be like, okay, Eric, here's why he did this, here's what you should do about it. But the and I'd be like, Thank you, ChatGPT. I get that's a wonderful answer. But why would I think that's a wonderful answer? It's because Chat GPT is giving me the answer based on it knowing me. So it's just giving me basically a regurgitation of what I would want to think, whereas completely ignoring you, Elias. Whereas dating is different. So let's say we're in a chat. Obviously, it's a dating app, but we've also introduced a friends feature. So let's say we're in a chat and we ask the question about ourselves like, where should we eat? It takes in context from both users. So both of our users, not just me, because it's gonna suggest something I like, not just you, it's gonna suggest something you like, but both of us, and it's gonna give an accurate suggestion. And this is very powerful when it comes to relationships. So we've seen an influx of couples use it because like it's a can help plan dates. It's like, oh, your anniversary is coming up. What should I do for this? Oh, she just added this thing on Pinchest board, it might be a good gift, all that stuff. But we've actually seen people use it as a relationship counselor for that. So the dating app is going well. It's live in the App Store for Apple users. We just launched a web app too. So now people globally can sign up. So we're expanding globally so you can find your friend in the across the world. And the ways we're gonna build that out is we're testing out communities too. So it's becoming a supportive human connection. So, like if you're in any community, like let's say we're both in, I don't know, we're testing out cryptocurrencies just because that's my expert. Yeah, like cryptocurrencies have their communities and all that stuff. It's like you're in a you're in the stacks community. Find me my best friend in Sax who we would get along with the most, and it can find you that person, and then that's a way to connect within community. So we're building up that, we're about to build our API so people can launch on that and just build products based on data. So we have a recruiting service lined up. So they're gonna build our API, they're gonna build on top of our API and use it to match users with proper employers. Because again, that's also very important. Like, imagine if you can match with an employer who actually vibes with you versus someone you hate. I'm sure, like, because most people spend most of their life in the workplace. So matching with people you actually connect with is very important. So we have that coming down the line. Oh, we just got a grant from the Stax Foundation, so we're very thankful for that. We're gonna build out a data monetization marketplace. So, what that essentially is, it's like the good version of Facebook. You know how Facebook just takes your data, steals it. So we're gonna build out so like, okay, let's say you're on the app, you want to sell your, you want to, you live, you connect all your sources, you're like, okay, this is I connect the sources because it helps me match people, it knows me better, all good and dandy. You're gonna make it so like, oh, I can tell with the app. If you want to sell your data, you can have the optionality too. So then theoretically, if someone buys your data, you get paid out instantly, and that's where the Stacks Foundation wants us to come in because like, hey, we built this marketplace, people buy that, you get paid out instantly, and Stacks cryptocurrency, so they get a new user, everyone's happy. So that's kind of what we're building out of data marketplace. As LLMs become the because, like I mentioned earlier, we are the most personalized LLM in the world right now. We have very, very rich data, and people will want to use that data and conversation data to train other LLMs. And if they're paying us, we want to can we want to share with the users who we are making the money to, and of course, it's complete voluntarily too. It's like, yes, no, you went in, no, or you went out, that's fine. You went in, you want to make 50 bucks a month or whatever the price is, that's also fine. So it's really up to the user. So things are gun gray with that.

SPEAKER_02: 9:58

Oh, wow. So yeah, but I I mean the dating apps, I already found the complete horse crap. That's just my basic um opinion. And yeah, it's it was very super skewed, and some people develop a sense of entitlement. Oh, I want the the tens or the top one percent of good-looking guys or girls in the world, you know, and it's all just based on looks, and let's be clear, just visual horniness. Yep. It doesn't last, and it doesn't last, it doesn't last for long. I mean, you're just lucky, just uh, you know, merge in beds, put it a little nicely, and then that's it. Or I call it hump and dub relationship, and that's it.

SPEAKER_00: 10:37

And the problem with that is it honestly damages your further relationships down the line, too. Like obviously, every relationship here brings a certain amount of baggage. If you believe in spirituality stuff, which I do, every person you have sex with creates a soul ties, and that takes like seven to ten years to get rid of. Again, honestly, it's politically incorrect, so I'll just speak what I think is happening. The top five percent of dudes on the dating apps are getting all the matches of all the girls. So, like, let's say, not to break people down in numbers, but like let's say it's everyone's a scale one through ten. Like the nines and ten dudes are getting all the matches on the app. So, like, you know, dudes will kind of sleep in anything if it's free and easy. So the nine to ten dudes will match for like 10 girls, eight, six, seven, all the way down to like honestly, like three or four. And the ten dude will bang the four, because it's a dude, let's be real. Like, they'll sleep in anything. Like, if she comes over, she comes over. But now that four, she thinks she can lock down the ten, which is never gonna happen. And then she ignores her relational equivalent. So now no one's happy. The the four guys are happy because he's getting zero attention, the four girls aren't happy because she's in like a rotation of the ten dude. 10 dudes honestly, like, he feels like he's happy, but also it's not great for you to just go around sleeping with anyone, in my opinion. I mean, if you want to do it, you can. So just creating a system of unhappiness, and I think people are profiting on that as well. So, like the dating apps, I think again, politically incorrect, I think conspiracy theory-wise, and like all most dating apps are owned by match.com. So I've noticed a funnel too. So, like, you join Tinder, you join whatever, you join the big ones, you create a profile. Most people don't have success success. Then you get ads for like the more lesser, lesser profiles, like the more obscure ones. So, like, I would get ads for like gym, specific gym dating, specific Filipino dating because I'm Filipino, and I think they're creating profiles from the data that they use the other profiles for. So now I'm like, okay, the Filipino one seems cool. I'm Filipino, I want that actually. I signed up for that. I have no look again because there's no real users, it's all ghost users, and it sends me down the line to more obscure apps. So then eventually I was getting like you find your bride in Ukraine. I'm like, what the fuck is this? And I think the end of the funnel is like the OnlyFans girls. Again, all conspiracy theories, I don't know, but that's just I've noticed. I've been following the the trick the breakups. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 12:41

I mean, I could use that a little lava putang YouTube home example. Once you start clicking on this, it gets more obscure and it gets weirder. It's just like you go down a rabbit hole. And oh sure, just keep watch, she's just keep consuming whatever, whatever niche you're into. Then you're gonna get someone who's more obscure, so that's more interesting, and then it just gets weirder and weirder and weirder. And then you get my you might land her creepypasta, whatever. I went to the creepypasta phase. I'm there's they're pretty irritating, honestly. I will never, I will never understand it. I I I don't know, I'm probably too numb to get I'm too numb to feel fear at this point. So, okay, well, that's this other okay. How is SpongeBob the most evil thing? How is Sonic the Hedgehog the most scary? Fill in the character, how are they evil and scary? Okay, that that's all it is for me. I'm a boomer in that. I will never get it, and you're just gonna deal with it. So feel free to insult me. I could care less. I you know, I will think if it, you know, since I'm a bit chunk, I'm just gonna think it's food, okay? So look, listen, don't look, I look, I'm just too numb. I'm too numb. I I I just don't care when it comes to creepy, creepy pasta. People love it, people love doing it, so people get a lot of clicks for it, but hey, I don't know slightly off topic, but um, I get your point comes to algorithms, just give you more obscure things as the more you consume content or exploring similar content you know down the line, like like your case would be dating app. So, you know, it's yeah, it it's weird. Algorithms, they'll do things too. They give you a lot of things that are related, and then they're gonna throw something odd in there, they're gonna throw a little curveball in there on every once in a while. That that's just I think that's just algorithms trying to tell you, hey, you wanna go down a rabbit hole or change your interests, you know. That's that's my thinking at least. I don't want you know, you you go conspiracy theory all you want. I haven't banned that, and I don't think I'm not gonna ban it because sometimes it's just interesting to talk about it. You know, listeners and viewers, you take it or leave it, okay? That just you know that's up to you want to believe it or not, or dig deeper into it. We adults here. I'm not gonna make this into PG, Mickey Miles, you know, family friendly. This is not a family-friendly podcast. So if we go down the rabbit hole, you want to talk about conspiracy theories, they are they are allowed in there. Just know what you're getting into, okay? And if you want to believe it, that's entirely up to you, okay? So that's good. So dating, it's not just creating the best relationships, even maintaining this full of future stages that are ahead unlike all these other mainstream, you know, match.com affiliates. I'm just gonna call them that. Because that's what they're so that's what they are. And yeah, I re I yeah, you know, and I they have so much ads, and you know, since they're such a big company, you can just dump a bunch of ads, and that's what they get a crap ton of users with skewed experiences. Yeah, no, we definitely gotta push something that's trying to create real relationships because it's true, because I think the huge I think the dating scene has been damaged. Not saying it's completely hopeless, but it's been damaged because of tools like these.

SPEAKER_00: 15:35

It's an incentive structure. So like dating, we're in like our monetization model in the future is gonna be like if you like, you meet a girl, you like her, you plan a date within the app, it's a just then you book within the app, that the date is booked, and we will get a cut of the date that's booked within the app. So dating, like match.com, Tinder Hinge, they're not they're incentivized to not match you with your person, whereas we actually are incentivized to match you with the person. So if those are the whether the people at match are good people or bad people, whether the people are dating are good or bad people, I think people follow their incentives. So our incentives are to match as many people as possible and make those good matches. And the powerful thing about AI too is like it's always learning too. So like saying yes, no, yes, no, yes, blah, blah, blah. All those things, I'm giving reasons for why, yes, reasons for why no, it's learning about me, it's getting better at matching me. It's getting better at matching me. But the cool thing is, like, if you're on the app, you're saying yes, no, yes, no, yes, no, it's getting better at matching you, but it's also picking up in two patterns between both of us. So, like, if there's patterns that it knows to be, okay, these type of people, they have these tags, they connect well with these people. So, like, the more we're both on the app, the better it gets matches for both of us. And if you scale that across thousands of users, it'll because AI is really good at pattern recognition and dating at scale and data analysis at scale. So, like, again, like completely random example, it's not true. But like, I'm wearing a black shirt. Like, if it just notices that for whatever reason, the people who wear black shirts consistently are matched very well with people in to pickable ball, like that would make no sense for both of us because like I don't see the correlation, but the data doesn't lie. It would notice that. So it understands the layers better than most of us. It's gonna just gonna get better and better. And the cool thing about dating is like, again, it's always updating its tag. So if you connect social again, you add new photos, you talk to Cupid, you tell it's your interest, people are using it at LLM. So it's like, hey, I'm now in Tickleball. Okay, it knows you're to pickable, and now it's gonna learn off of that. So it's always updating, it's always generating that profile. And something we intentionally built into the app too is again, like, no fault on dudes, but most dudes are bad at presenting themselves. So we built we're building and dating to present the positive side of YouTube. So, like, okay, I'm into Legos, or no, I'm I'm into anime. I think anime is awesome. Most girls don't like anime, but whatever. So if my anime tag is heavy, it'll be like, okay, Eric's into anime. I know that may not be your cup of tea, but it shows he's deep into storytelling. The anime's he liked shows that he could be a good family man because of the values that the anime portrays. So it adds that positive spin. It's like, oh, you're into Legos again. Probably not the biggest chick magnet thing in the world, but like, okay, he's into Legos. That shows he's highly organized, he's dependable. So draw the positive sides about that and give you like that positive spin, which you guys need.

SPEAKER_02: 18:03

So you know, that's such a really good point. And this is why I was actually getting girls in my 20s because I presented myself well, and sadly I had to remove that. I know I'll call it the chick dispel of features. Or I'm just gonna say like that. And we all know, I mean, obviously, smelling bad is a big no no, okay. You don't want to smell bad. That's that's super simple. I don't know how AI is gonna spin, I doubt it will, it doesn't want to.

SPEAKER_00: 18:29

What it's gonna do is there's gonna be a relationship cupid type thing. So again, date analysis is like, okay, Eric, you've been on three dates. You haven't been on this, you haven't been past the third date. Where are you taking them? Okay, don't go there. Or be like, okay, Eric, every girl, you go on, you go, you go tons of first dates, but they don't go past the first date. Cupid. And this is also another monetization model we can make. It's like, okay, Cupid, why am I getting rejected? Because I want to know why I'm getting rejected. Well, they also you smell, so take a shower, and you're just like, okay, well, that's helpful to know. So it can again, like, it's learning too, so it's there to help you. So okay, you've been on 10 dates, it doesn't work. The girls are giving you reasons why it doesn't work. So they're telling Cupid so they don't match with anyone similar. So they're feeding Cupid helps them get matches, but it also gives you feedback on obviously vice versa, too. Like the girls can get advice too, but like I'm using guys' examples. So the more the reason it'll give reasons on why you like them, why you don't like them, and then it'll give you feedback on your own dates too, so you can do better the next time.

SPEAKER_02: 19:25

That's good. I mean, let me let me use a more realistic example. Some guys suck at holding the conversation, that kills the dates. So I'm sure there's gonna be feedback related to that as well. You know, they can't hold the conversations. Some some guys just can't. They just think about, you know, get her pants. Let's be honest, you know, be up and you know. And look, I got my criticism of women, but I also got my criticism of men. It takes two to fuck, it takes two to fuck things up, okay? And I I love it when a woman oh just only attack men, and then there's also the vice versa. It takes two to fuck things up. It ain't just one way, you know, or or the other, in my in my honest opinion. Is there commonalities why women screw up and why men screw up? Yeah, women is more based on my analysis, and feel free to chime in, even correct it, or add more to it. There's they bring trauma from past relationships into the next one. Some guys like, I'm not gonna deal with this.

SPEAKER_00: 20:20

Yeah, well, woman can the biggest reason I found again politically incorrect is women choose very poorly, specifically when they're young. And since they all choose poorly, like they'll get advice from their friends, so it's all like it's it's a group of people choosing poorly, which makes the choices even poorer. And so this results in a skew too. So, like, like imagine this you're an 18-year-old girl, you're an 18-year-old guy. The 18-year-old girl has all the options of the world. She chooses the fuck boys over and over again to get scarred, get scarred, and then she kind of gets a little bit older, she realizes she has to get down in the relationship. That's when she meets the guy. So she's been choosing poorly, and all that trauma goes into the relationship. So the guy's kind of scary. But at this point, this guy has had a poor time in the marketplace. So, like, the level of experience that they have with the opposite sex is also very scary. Because again, like a 21-year-old guy versus a 20-year-old girl, who has the more options now, and social media just makes us exponentially worse.

SPEAKER_02: 21:11

Oh, yeah, for sure. It's not to shame any gender and all that, but these are the common dollars we see. I write Chris as a man, look, he stink, you ain't gonna do that. No, some men are just simple. Woman's gotta be there. Let's just get it on. Woman, nope, we gotta talk a certain way. Just you gotta do a whole ritual for it to get ready. I mean, then you know, the the there's some I mean, look, are there exceptions to rules? Yes, they are, but these are common patterns and AI are AI is excellent at detecting, you know, meta-trends and patterns and all that stuff. It is evolving, which is good because look, some dating is you know, dating is trial and error. You're not gonna get it right the first time. You learn about yourself along the process, so that so you gave its feedback, you and AI, it for lack of better word, are evolving. And it takes that in, and then you know, you done with it.

SPEAKER_00: 21:58

So it speeds up that trial and error process though, too. So it puts you in the position to succeed. So you may fumble through your first things, but it'll tell you pretty quickly. And the sooner you accept the advice, the better it'll get for you.

SPEAKER_02: 22:08

Ah, that's the key. Accepting the advice. What if the man or woman is just they don't want to take feedback, they they they hear their feelings. Well, well, what do you want?

SPEAKER_00: 22:17

Well, what's anyone? Let's say I what's human good, you know. That's really because then it's all up to them.

SPEAKER_02: 22:21

No, right, right. So hey, you know, and you know, it's you know, it I I this is a great tool here because you know, I like I already know the main the mainstream I'm gonna call it mainstream the match.com affiliates. Yeah, they just they're there, you're they're incense structures, it's just you know uh to mess around and make it a skewed marketplace and in terms of dating, and you know, some are getting a lot more, you know, action in bed than others. That's just that's just a fact. And you know, and I believe social media has made things worse in terms of can social media be a great tool? Of course it is. It can't be, but let's be real. Social media has been used to spread fear and dilute our perceptions, you can brainwash a lot of people, especially those who live on the phone. They are just so they're so freaking brainwashed. I said, Well, I can't help you. I just cannot help you.

SPEAKER_00: 23:16

Well, the thing is social media or social media is just a tool, like it's just like any other thing. A knife, like this cool kuna thing. I can use it to harm someone, I can use it to protect someone, I can use it to cut a cake. It all really depends on the person. From a more spiritual conspiracy or conspiracy theory side, I believe in it, and everything for me is energy frequency and vibration. So when you're at a specific emotional level, like let's say you're angry, you're at that vibrational frequency of angry, and like a radio. If you're turned to a station, you get that station. So like if you're shameful, you're at that station, that's a lower level, you'll attract other shameful. If you're sad, you attract sad people. There's a certain level, and obviously, like the happy are like peace, love, joy, those are higher vibrational frequencies where most people want to be at. But if you're in a specific level, like between 100 and 200, like anger, sad, fear, that's when people are most controllable. So I think that's why all the social media people push that specific type of content to keep people in a state of fear. Like, for example, COVID, whatever you think about, that's an example. It's like if you were if I were in a position of power to control people, I could get them fearful, I could get them to do whatever I want. So I think that's why that type of specific content is being pushed.

SPEAKER_02: 24:21

So yeah, I like the connection with Spiritualka. I do cover all of spirituality a great amount of times, and yeah, there's I mean, what Eric's saying, uh, I'm gonna just minus the uh not theory, I'm gonna minus the theory part. Yeah, I think it's a conspiracy, okay? I'm just gonna say that. I'm gonna go that far just to say that because look, humans are controlled if they're in a lower vibrational state, like you know, sadness, fear, shame, jealousy, whatever. Yeah, as opposed to happy, loving. When you're in that um frequency phase, you're less you're a lot less vulnerable. You know, especially to the social media content that you and I I'm gonna I'm comfortable talking about politics. Rather, you know, it's very left, very right. They they throw content at them being controversial, that gets people wild up. Rather, I don't care lead left, right? Look, I already said before, I'm a proud register independent because I think both parties are stupid.

SPEAKER_00: 25:16

Same same person, just different shoe.

SPEAKER_02: 25:19

Yep, you got you're either gonna get uh blue corporate America or red corporate America. That you know that that's it. And yeah, they might have a little decorations, one might have more the American flag, you know, which party that is. I always like to raise the American flag. And what part uses the more rainbow flag, BLM flag, all the other flags, okay? More likely, you know, just uh present diversity, you know which party is which. And guess what? You get no prize for figuring it out because it should be easy for you. So that's all I'm gonna say about that. And yeah, I just when it comes to these uh DDs on tools, and I'm actually liking that you know, we're gonna push something, you know, dating. I keep saying data in, you know, uh yeah, but dating, okay. It's yeah, it's uh it's it should be a great tool for you if you're serious about not just about finding a date, but also learning yourself how you deal with other people, right? I mean, look, this whole this whole journey called life, we're learning about ourselves every day, rather you realize it or not. And so maybe shocking, some might not be so surprising. Everyone's journey is you know, it's unique. And I I always say that, and that's a fact. If you want to debate that in the comment section, you want to be a Reddit moron, feel free to put it there. All I'm gonna say is if you want to be extra spicy in your comment, wait for this to be on Rumble, right? Because YouTube will censor you, okay, if you go too far. Just reality. I'm not against censorship. YouTube is for that. And just so wait for it to get on Rumble, then you can post your spiciest, uncensored comment. I don't even care if it's insult insulting towards me. I don't. This is for you to learn or be open-minded to it. Because if you try any of these match.com affiliate links and you realize it's not working, well, you got an idea why, okay? It's no longer a freaking mystery. It's not just your feelings, it's not just anecdotal. Here's some metadata to back this up, okay? And look, and anything else you want to add about um, I mean, the so far great positive, you know, not just not just positive, but I'm just seeing just impact because yeah, you gotta learn how to take negative feedback for you to get better. Yeah, I can't always just give you a positive feedback, you know. And look, if you smell really bad or the hair is messy, take that to an account. Yeah, you know, this is you know, and I do agree. Men always I would say a good chunk of men present themselves more horribly during the day because they don't they don't put as much attention to looks like women. That's that's just are there some sloppy women out there? Yeah, but that's far more rare than a sloppy guy. Let's just be real. 100%.

SPEAKER_00: 27:59

Yeah, I'm not even wearing pants right now.

SPEAKER_02: 28:01

But well, some of you may, you know, use your three letters there. You know, you know what they are. Again, you're getting no prize for that guy's too damn easy. If it was something like a difficult, obscure question, then I'll give you a prize. I said, Oh, damn, you're smart. No, these are too easy. And even I don't know, a brain damaged person can figure it out. So nope, no prizes. No prizes here. I'm a cheekboat. Yes, you can say that. I could care less. Um, so I mean, I think um, yeah, I I don't know cryptocurrency is one of your is your expertise. So what's going on with that? It seems like they've been kind of stable. Uh that's just my impression, at least, because I've I've invested more to cryptocurrency compared to before. Before I wasn't into it at all because the volatility scared me, and the mainstream media gave a slanted negative coverage of it.

SPEAKER_00: 28:47

Yeah, so I also just launched a cryptocurrency project. And what that is, it's and I'll go over the cryptocurrency project, what Web 2, Web3 is, and like kind of where the whole, I guess, industry is at right now because they're all obviously related. So the project we just launched is called ACES.fun, and it's the place where you could buy culture and trade hype. So just think of it as a stock market for tokenized RWA collectibles, and then RWA collectible RWA stands for real world assets. So it's a tokenized version of those real world assets. So just think of it as like an auction house. So what ACES is, it's a triple-sided marketplace for a seller of a collectible, a buyer of a collectible, and the traders of the derivative base on those collectibles. So it's creating a marketplace based on e-commerce products. So we just launched last weekend, we just launched an AP cause watch. It's a pretty limited, it's a just fancy expensive watch, costs around 520k. So, like, imagine this it's like I have this watch. How do I sell this? I don't fucking know. Where is there a market like do I put on eBay? Do I do this? I don't know. So the person listed on ACES.fun. And so what happened at that point in time is an AP cause, like any other cryptocurrency, AP cause token was created and it's paired with ACES. So now there's a derivative market. Marketplace based on that based on the e-commerce product, and people can speculate on the success of the e-commerce product. And let's say you want that e-commerce product, you're like, because again, like people have a token, they're gonna post it on social media, they're like, I want because you know crypto crypto pumpamentals is like, I have this token, I went to pump, I tell people about it. It's like a bunch of buzz was created around that token, and every time that every time a trade happened with that token, the seller's actually making money. So I have this watch, I create a token, the token's going up, people are trading it. I'm making trading fees, I'm getting attention, which is fantastic for me. And then you come to Elias, you're like, okay, I've seen this watch, people are posing about social media. What the fuck is this? I kind of want it. I'll buy that watch from Eric. You come in, you buy the watch from me, you now inherit the derivative pair. So now you own it, you own the product itself. So you get the watch, you own an ecosystem and a marketplace based on the watch, and now you're earning the trading fee. So now you're like, okay, this is pretty cool. And the cool thing is at the point of sale, so like when you purchase that watch from me, a portion of the profits gets sent back to the traders as a like a thank you for holding, and that's like a repeats. So that just launched, and that's like it's a trading platform. It's you can go to aces.fun. So we have some cool products coming up, like a bang C, some celebrity items that's gonna generate a bunch of like buzz around these products. And the cool thing is, we launched on Aerodrome, which is Coinbase's decks. So now every every time we launch a token on ACES.fun, people can buy it on Coinbase. So I don't know if you if you have Coinbase, you can look up AP cause on Coinbase and you'll see AP cause by ACES. And the logic behind that is my mom is gonna buy like a Birken token versus like Fart Coin token or SPS 69. So, like, we're gonna flood the market with those tokens. That's going very well. And so we just launched that. Definitely check it out, it's honestly gonna crush it. But that leads me to where cryptocurrency is at a hole. So, right now we're experiencing like I call them Jane Wars or user wars or whatever, because now everyone wants like cryptocurrency is kind of stable, so now they're trying to figure out ways to get retail in. So, like, how do I get retail in? So that's why we have the support of the base ecosystem for ACES. It's like, okay, like we can get like a celebrity to create a token that's gonna bring in their fans. So they saw ACEs like, okay, this is a way for us to bring in retail, and now they're supporting it because they obviously want us on their chain. The dating app, like you know, I mentioned that got like a grant from the Stax Foundation. They see it as okay, this app can get real users and then give them incentive to bring people onto our chain. Let's give them, let's fund that too. So I'm actually getting fund, like I'm working with two different ecosystems. I feel just like an app, it's like the people use that, the people don't use that. But behind those ecosystems is a cryptocurrency chain. And now chains are trying to find killer apps to bring normal everyday users to their specific chain. And the cool thing about everyday users is like most of them don't give a fuck about the ethos or fundamentals of crypto, they just want to use something that works. So you're gonna see more and more chains offer grants, build out ecosystems, create startup accelerators for builders to build on their chain. So that's where we're at in cryptocurrencies. Like, great, the technology is there, but honestly, like let's be real, like, no one was fucking using. Go back two years, like, who the fuck is using crypto? No one, but that has to change for the chain to win. And if one chain gets all the users, then honestly they're gonna win. So now chains are incentivizing build because like again, like cryptocurrency is worth enough money where a lot of the chains have cash flow to like give grants, give funding. So now they're trying to get builders to build cool products on their app so that retail comes in and use their app. So that's where ACE is not fun. Again, launching like celebrity collectibles. We have like a Banksy coming up that's gonna bring in a lot of retail for being like, again, like you don't know what a bank, it's like you know what Banksy's, but you don't really know the crypto, but it's like, okay, that's kind of cool. What is that? So that's gonna bring people onto the base chain, which is created by Coinbase, the Stacks Foundation's funding dating. It's like, okay, like when you sell that data, if you want to sell that data, like you'll get paid out in SBTC, so you get paid in Bitcoin. And then it's our job as both ACEs.fund and dating, because I know customers are fickle, like, God knows no one wants to deal with that cryptocurrency back end. It has to be easy for both of them to create that bridge. So ACEs is it's a trading platform, so a little more high-tech. Like for dating, it's like the average user doesn't want to build a wallet, so they have to do that integration all within the app and just create the app, they get sent their money. It's like again, that just highlights how we're in the middle of chain wars right now. And so, yeah, like when Web3 eventually succeeds, which I think it will, it just has to be done in the background. Like, you have to be using dating and getting paid in your stacks. You're taking pain paid in Bitcoin, you probably don't want that, so it just has to be a dollar amount with ACEs. It's like, okay, like I'm on Coinbase, it's easy to buy, I just buy the spectrum token, I get paid dollar amounts on itself.

SPEAKER_02: 34:31

Yeah, so it's gonna eventually I don't want to say legitimize, but it's gonna eventually make cryptocurrency, you know, as acceptable, for lack of a better word, mainstream, oh, revenue and funding and all that, because the races grants coming in, and now I want to make it retail. Yeah, that means it's it's already bringing close to being mainstream at this point. Especially bringing what celebrity-based uh coins and Banksy. Well, a lot of you know what Banksy is, right? This mysterious, you know, that's gonna definitely, you know, they got clout, that's what cool kids call it. That's gonna generate buzz easily. So I think that's a good, very good starting point if you want to get buzz quickly, right? Because a lot of people know what celebrities are. A lot of people know Web3 cryptocurrency is, but a lot of people know where a celebrity is, especially in America. They know about celebrities, you know, a lot, but when it comes to important things, in politics, they are some of them are stupid, misinformed dipshits that have passionate opinions, some of you. Not for my sense viewers, you're smart, you're you're the exception. But there's some people I talk to, they're just they're just stupid. I wouldn't even say they're just dumb, but I wouldn't.

SPEAKER_00: 35:39

I wouldn't say stupid I wouldn't say stupid, I would say more brainwashed. Fine. Like there's a there's a yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you're not even like dumb, you're just kind of just you're just like a talking point piece for the person doing the brainwashing.

SPEAKER_02: 35:50

Yeah, you're right, you're right. All right, you see, I don't mind being correct. That's a wise person, yeah, sure. But but you know, it's it's just yeah, people just get brainwashed so easy. No, question things, even question what I'm doing. Yes, I'm that consistent there. I want you to be critical thinkers, I want you to be, you know, question things, you know, and if you might catch me there, you know, I could be unintentionally spreading misinformation. Call me out. It's not the first time. I want you to hold me to the fire.

SPEAKER_00: 36:19

And it's good for you if you get called out too. Like it's it benefits like it's a I mean you either ignore or you don't, but like, because the good thing is like I I think the whole point of life is just to it's self-knowledge, and I think the again spirituality, whether you believe it or not, I don't perfectly care. But I think that we all are lessons that we need to learn. And if you don't learn your lesson by someone else, like if you were to call me out on something, like Eric, you're being a dipshit, and I'm like, no, I'm not. I'm gonna can then I'm gonna continue being a dipshit. Or like if you don't learn your lesson that the university is trying to teach you, it's just gonna keep repeating it until you eventually learn. It's like going back to the Danny example, if you're a specific type of relationship, and that's causing your relationship to fail, you're just gonna keep getting that same type of relationship until you fix yourself, and then that's when you get the better relationship. So until you learn the lesson, it's gonna keep repeating. So just learn it faster, it's easier for you, anyways. Let's heartbreak.

SPEAKER_02: 37:07

Yeah, like yeah, exactly. You know, you know, with your ex you're expediting a trial and error, instead of going through 50 dates, you might just need three. Yeah. Or maybe ten. I'm willing to stretch it that far. But look, you're expediting the the process, right? And look, I I want to learn, I want to grow too. That's why I'm open for you just to be critical. Look, if you give like constructual feedback that is specific, accurate, and irrelevant, I take those. But if you're gonna say you're stupid or your mama's so fat, I'm gonna ignore you, because that's stupid to me. Or even just saying my podcast is great with no reason. I'm ignoring that thing. That's empty. Thank you, I guess. That's all you're gonna get. I mean, just give a reason why it's good, or give a reason why it sucks. Yeah, uh you the opposite direction. So look, your feedback matters. That's my tough way of saying it. And it does, because one said the lighting was, you know, the the lighting was bad. I fixed that, I got studio lighting. Audio was crap, I got a better microphone, nah, I got a headphone attached to this thing, and the sound is far more controlled and clear as opposed to before. You know, the video quality was a bit iffy. Yeah, I don't use Zoom, I use Rifferside. So your feedback matters, people. Your feedback matters.

SPEAKER_00: 38:18

That's how you that's how you're getting better, honestly. That's why your podcast is getting better, is because people took the time to listen and give you feedback.

unknown: 38:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 38:23

And I took it. The ones I didn't take was um you're just wrong, or you're stupid, or why you hatin'. Thank you. Even though I was correct about you know Kevin McCarthy having a very short speakership, I was correct. So I'm not taking that feedback. I'm right, and you're just in your feelings, and then throwing that one out the window. You don't have to accept all feedback too, because some of it is they just secretly hating on you, or they they don't have anything good to say, so you just gotta spew just to feel like they are they are putting you down, you know, and just just differentiate ones that got lessons hidden in there, and then and some of it's just trash thought out.

SPEAKER_00: 39:01

Yeah, signal signal versus noise. There's some signal in there, but there's also a bunch of noise.

SPEAKER_02: 39:05

Yeah. Yeah, so exactly. Listen, people, look, this is look, I care in a weird way. I don't I don't show it most of the time because rough around the edge is New York, kind of New Yorker. So and I bring that with me. Rather you love it or not, and sometimes I will double down on it, especially if I know if it pisses you off. That's I I will troll, especially if I know it sometimes.

SPEAKER_00: 39:28

Well then if you're pissing someone off, you're technically doing them a favor. Because like if you were to piss me off or something, that's a lesson that I actually have to learn. And it's gonna keep coming. So, like again, going back to spirituality, I think like we also like to the experiences we have. So, like, if I'm angry, I'm gonna bring people in my life who trigger the anger to make me learn that lesson. So, if you were to piss me off, you're doing me a favor because you're revealing you're bringing us something to the surface that I personally have to deal with. And once I deal with it, you'll stop pissing me off. So he's he's he's he's doing a for your listeners. When he pisses you off, he's doing a favor. So say thank you. Yep.

SPEAKER_02: 40:03

Or I want to be cynical here. Oh, you just keep drinking the emotional Kool-Aid and you'll learn, and I'll just keep pissing you off, and that cycle will continue, and I will get a kick out of it. Look, I care for you in a weird way. You know, I'm like that asshoe big brother. I will save you when shit really matters. When it comes to minor conflicts, ah well, they get to look at this way.

SPEAKER_00: 40:24

Let's say your listeners are getting pissed off by you right now and they leave that comment. It's it's literally feeding you. Like you're talking about, you're laughing at, you're giving him content to ghost. Like, as your listeners getting pissed off by Alliance, you're looks so it looks to me as a third party that you're doing a favor because they're talking about right now. He he clearly doesn't give a fuck about you if you're pissing him off. He's like, Yeah, it's like his insults roll off your back. So he's he's taking the W right now.

SPEAKER_02: 40:46

Um look, I'm a celebrity in your mind, so hey, you're living rent-free. Yeah, exactly. Yep, living rent freaking free. Thank you for thank you for your hospitality. No, but yeah, but all services. Look, this is just a lesson. You could you could just evolve from it, learn from it, or you just keep with the cool kids called loop, you keep doing the same stupid shit over and over and over. And it's just like a freaking loop. For those of you who are listening, I'm just doing a circle, I'm just doing circle emotional with my finger, because you just keep going through that same psycho negativity. You're not learning, you're not learning until you break that chain, and then you go freaking higher. Okay? And listen, that let's talk about spirituality, because I am I'm actually a spiritual person, and thank God I am, because I don't a fake atheist for two years. So I was just a pissed-off Christian, in other words, because I don't understand why why my father was gone. That that that's whole origin of it. I'm not gonna repeat that whole story. I read I told it five different ways already. And I think spirituality is very important because we are spiritual beings, most importantly, and even this physical body is temporary, you know. It is, this is temporary. This this is a temporary um home. Yeah, yep. So and I say, look, what you consume, you think it's not gonna affect you, but if you meditate and dig to your subconscious, you realize that ooh, this horror film really got me scared, or the reason why I don't trust people because of these scandalous films that you'd be watching, you know, the man having three different wives, or the woman having 10 different relationships, okay? And you know that does feed, that does feed to your subconscious. Consciously you know better, but your subconscious doesn't filter. It takes in the good, the bad, the ugly, the weird. It takes everything.

SPEAKER_00: 42:35

And I I think you're I think your subconscious is actually creating a reality too. So, like if you're watching, like let's use the dating example, because yeah, yeah, like you know, like the whole red pill vibe, the whole female red pill vibe, whatever it is, like yes, it's entertaining, but it's also rage, baby. So if you're thinking like all girls are bad, all girls have a rotation of five guys, then that's exactly the reality you're gonna build for yourself, and then you're just gonna attract those people in your life, and it's gonna become a self-fulfilling prophecy. But that's also the that's also the flip side again. Like, if you think of like if you think of tech, like you know, I mentioned technology is neutral, like AI is neutral, knife's are neutral, like you're gonna your subconscious is neutral, like everything is neutral to your subconscious, just how you want to word it. So like I choose to view the positive things in life because eh, I mean, again, like I've I found it sounds like you found spirituality like through hardships. Like, I've uh firstly I've had a good family and friend life, but like from the whole business side, it's been extraordinarily difficult. And then the spirituality content, because I used to think it was complete bullshit before, but then at a certain point I realized it wasn't, and then I started believing it, and my life's just gone way better before. So, whether it's too hot, whether it's not, I don't care. I like it, I like talking about it, it helps me greatly. So that's just what we're gonna do. And I'm again, like the right content finds me at the right time, you meet the right amount of people, and then it just kind of takes off from there. So I I use spirituality as the base of everything, and like both the projects in building Ace is not fun and dating. The intention is to help users. Like Ace is not fun. The intention is if you want to come in and speculate on a coin, the intention is you make money because we want you to make money, because we designed the system where everyone makes money. The traders make money when the sell happens, the buyer makes money with trading fees, the seller, the buyer gets the product, like everyone's trying to make money and dating. The intention is to match you with someone who's good. Like, again, like if you want to be in a polynomial relationship, we should be able to sort that out and then find you that person, because again, no judgment. But if you want to be in this monograph relationship, we can find that too. So the intention is good, and both companies have a spiritual base. Like, for God's sake, the Ace is not fun. We're doing our launches based on astrology, which again, most people think it's bullshit. But when we listen to astrology, it works. Dating when you're programming AI, we program the spiritual base, like a lot of the ancient text, into the base of the AI, so it kind of does good for people.

SPEAKER_02: 44:42

Oh, you know, that actually, you know what? I I normally dismiss astrology, but I do but I am curious though. So I obviously it takes astrology to an account, right? And how true are those compatibilities? Is it like case by case? Some were bullshit, some are true, or is it mostly true or mostly false?

SPEAKER_00: 45:03

Honestly, like I used to think astrology is complete bullshit. Like I'm sure like most people do. Now I'm really big into when I listen to it, it works. When it when I don't listen to it, it just simply doesn't work. And I think it's the way I view it is like when people are interacting, it's basically a chemical reaction. Like me and you are interacting based on the chemical reaction. So like my experiences are interacting with your experiences, which is why it's bad to have trauma for the last research. So if I came in, let's say I've been on five different podcasts and they all burn me horribly, I would bring that chemical reaction to yours and create a negative chemical reaction. So like your date, birth, and time. Again, I think everything is related. It's part of who you are. Like, yeah, like again, all energy, frequency, vibration. Yes, the planets do like when they're wherever they are at, it does affect who you are when you're born. So it's just like, yeah, I I think it really does. And I can't explain that because I haven't done a deep dive into astrology, but I just noticed when I listen to the charts, things work. When I don't, it doesn't. And that's just a pattern I've noticed.

SPEAKER_02: 46:01

Common sexual activity, the haters, the supporters could join in this one. Well, basically, I think astrology is uh real, or you think it's complete bullshit? That's the question for you.

SPEAKER_00: 46:10

Hey, hate on, is this in the way you're supporting me because you're sending me energy, and I'll be again like I I believe in there's three three realms. So there's a spiritual world, the mental world, and the physical world. So stuff starts in the spiritual world and eventually manifests in the physical world. Like everything that's happened in the physical world starts as a thought. Like this phone was a thought first. So if I can get you thinking about me, you're sending me your energy in the physical world, which is making me more no, you're sending me energy in the mental world, which is more effective in the physical world. So that's why pause of thinking is so powerful, too. It's like that's why you have to focus on your goal over and over again because you're storing that mental energy and eventually it comes down to the real world.

SPEAKER_02: 46:44

Oh, you know, I I agree. Yeah, because everything was just a thought. I mean, look, look, AI wasn't just you know created out of just, I don't know, pure luck. I mean, someone thought of it. They've someone, you know, and AI has been around, you know, and I say this again, it's been around way before ChatGPT. The only thing ChatGPT did was made it public. That's a big difference. Before AI was used in video games, calculators, you know, more limiting capacities, right?

SPEAKER_00: 47:10

That's that's what everyone's so back to your cryptocurrency for that's what everyone's trying to find right now. It's like, you know, like ChatGPT is a killer app for AI and everyone could use that. All the crypto chains are trying to incentivize builders to build that app that everyone just kind of uses with their cryptocurrency. So that's kind of where we're at with uh and AI and crypto are very related. So I think I think it'll happen relatively soon. But sorry to sorry to interrupt, but that's just kind of where.

SPEAKER_02: 47:31

Oh no, that's fine. Yeah, the my my thing was just you know, AI did it didn't start with ChatGPT. ChatGBT just made it public. That's all it did. It let the cat out of the bag for the public to use. That's that's the big difference. Like AI was using video games, it was using calculators, it was used on you know the more limited capacity, okay? Ever since computers were first made, I think that's when AIs were essentially created, which is far more limited, but now it's far more impressive. It continues to get better and better and better. And sometimes, hey no, just like you said, it depends on the user's intent and execution. They use it for better, they use it to be disrespectful, controversial. And I bring these examples again. You know, Mr. Rogers, you know, I think some of your millennials will understand that. Gen Z, I mean you know, you just think I'm talking ancient history here. Um Mr. Rogers versus uh Bob Ross, they had a wrestling match, right? So people laughed, so people were offended by it. Okay, me, I initially I laughed, and then I just thought to myself, I just think that's pretty disrespectful. I've had time to reflect on that. Would I ban it? Sadly, no. But Sora AI has taken uh the initiative to ban the Martha Luther King in general because they had him say, I have a dream that I'm getting the hell out of America. He just left America, you know, things like that. And that generated, you know, so much buzz for obviously mostly the controversial wrong reasons. And people started debating, you know, I think we should start restricting using certain political figures because they disrespect it. And of course, I I knew Sora AI was gonna eventually do that. And I won't be surprised they clap they they they clap down on using anime because Japan was pissed about that. They were using Goku and One Punch. You know, those characters, you know. Of course they knew. Goku versus St. Thomas. Yeah. Yeah. Well, me, I'm becoming the boomer. The last thing I remember was Naruto, then then I slipped away. Um I remember Dragon Ball as well. Um, because you know to me, those are the gold animes of One Punch, yeah, yeah, it was good. But I I get the I kind of get the point. Um, he's like so overpowered, but yeah, he looks so dull. The bad guys are so cool, he's so hyped up, but yet just that one punch, that's it. It was all that hype, just you know, I think I I kind of get the message of that. I said, look, you don't have to be the most impressive looking person. Look, if you just look at the anime uh of the animation, how you know how the main character looks, he don't look that impressive like a corny superhero, but yet he delivers. He's extremely powerful, okay? But his look is you won't call it amazing or great, but he does deliver. He does deliver. While these bad guys look so cool and flashy, but well, all it takes is one punch.

SPEAKER_00: 50:26

That's it. Bam, done. It's funny because his names are this name because like the bad guy is like I'm the mega alien lord, Lord Zarbot. Here's my super flashy attack. It's 30 words, and his attacks are like a normal punch and normal consecutive punches. So those are his named attacks. And he's supremely effective, he's very effective.

SPEAKER_02: 50:46

That's that's the point, because all that flashiness and showing off the credentials, I'm a mega overlord, and all this, all this shit talk, and then yeah, he just destroys him very easily. He's very bored, too. I don't blame him. Yeah, it's all theater, you know, and it can destroy it. It's hilarious. I laugh. I was like, I said, what is someone's gonna challenge him? Maybe they need another one punch? I don't know, but hey, I haven't been watching anime that much. Um, yeah, you could talk kind of ignorant anime. The last one I saw watching, I think was like Naruto Shaputin, and then I didn't bother watching Berudo. I just said, look, I don't have time for this shit. Yeah, no. And some people say it's not it went downhill from there. That's what a lot of that's what consensus is. I was like, okay. That's I'll probably watch it when I'm bored. Um when I have a lot of free time, but I don't think that's ever the case. Got my always on the go. But it, you know, let's just say all this that, you know, use things responsibly, people, and I don't know, maybe they're gonna create AI black market where you're still allowed to do these bad things, you know. They'll be surprised. I'm we'll be surprised it's already done. I know I'm kind of snit uh well, I'm I'm not snitching because I don't I don't know where it's the specific one. I'll call it the black market AI where all the bann stuff is allowed to be created. Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, it can happen. Hey, uh, you know, I'm pretty sure it's happening right now.

SPEAKER_00: 52:00

So unfiltered LLM. Someone'll build that actually. I'm sure it's actually live too.

SPEAKER_02: 52:04

Yeah. So hey, I mean, uh I don't know what's your what's what's your take on all that people just using AI for controversy, fun, or inspiration.

SPEAKER_00: 52:14

My take is overall positive. I think it follows a social media trend where like the positive people make good content. Like most of the AI videos I actually see are just honestly pretty just uplifting and funny and just like spiritual. So like I think people are getting better and better, like overall. Like if you go on that vibrational scale, I think people are slowly, slowly climbing. So as people slowly and slowly climb, I use AI for good things. So like, yeah, people are gonna try to drum up comments, controversy, but eventually, like people will be such high vibe, we're just like, I'll just ignore the bad ones, and then eventually they get ignored, they eventually go away, and then people kind of start to use AI for good. And like I'm pretty excited too. Like, for example, like I can just I'm a comic fan, like you just and mm, I think movies have a bunch of comics, so like I can just hey, I mean an AI or AI, give me the exact video, no edits, no nothing, of Batman the killing joke, and I'll just actually create the actual thing. I think that's pretty cool. And I don't know, we're having fun with fun with it within our like within our companies, like we're making sore videos of like our other team members and just using control each other too.

SPEAKER_02: 53:11

Oh yeah, see, I yeah, I'm I'm open to the fun stuff. And uh, you know, you brought up a point I forgot to make. I just think overall, I think the world's being more aware that spirituality is good and more people's more open to that than before. Because and I I I definitely noticed that more people's more open to the you know spiritual aspects, the positive aspects. I'm starting to see that grow. So I'm actually more hopeful. If you would have told me this 15 years ago, I would have been I would have been doom and gloom. I was like, Eric, what the hell you talking about? You you take it happy, you take it to us, happy mushrooms, dude. Get like you know, get rid of it. I like I do like mushrooms.

SPEAKER_00: 53:48

Yeah, the reason the reason why you're seeing all that positive change is because your your elevation your frequency is rising. So if your frequency is rising, you're gonna start noticing more and more of the positive changes. And then the cool thing is because I think everyone has an inner purpose and everyone has an outer purpose. Your inner purpose is to raise your own level of vibration because what does that do? It raises those around you. So, like again, like now some of your listeners that could be slightly raised from this conversation, they may ignore spirituality the first time, second time, third time, but eventually it's gonna stick. And that's because you're raising your own vibration, so the people around you are getting better and better, and that's why it's exponentially increasing. So, like, the more again, like you said, like five years ago when you talk about spirituality, but now that it's more and more open, people are like, oh, this is kind of cool. And again, like before we both got in spirituality, we both thought it was complete bullshit because everyone does, but now it's like it's clearly not, and more and more people are realizing that results in a better world for all of us all, like feeding twent tech, products, food. I think it's just generally getting better.

SPEAKER_02: 54:42

Yeah, no, I I agree. You talk to me, you told me about this as a teenager, I would have said, you're high, you're on drugs, bro. The astral, I would have just straight up just reject you. I said, Look, you seem like a cool person, but you're you're you're batshit crazy. I would just reject it just outright. And I'll say more to my, I'll say, I well, I find God again, and then what am I not finding God again? But I got back into you know my spiritual stuff at 18. I was 18, you know, 18, and then I start digging deeper into spirituality. I this is all I say, and I'm gonna say this again Christianity, Buddhism, gentlemen, why am I forgetting oh Judaism, they're all starting points of spirituality. That's where I see it. They all starting points. I gotta give you a real obscure one and all I've been sort of Zoroasterism.

SPEAKER_00: 55:27

Oh, that's you know, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 55:29

Yeah, that one.

SPEAKER_00: 55:30

Yeah, Hermeticism, Kabolicism, like because you start off with the religion ones, I think this is bullshit, but then uh there's some cool ones out there. Well, I need to go on a Zora. I haven't been on a because Zora is something I just barely touched, and then kind of I switched to cabalism because that's just kind of where the universe stuck me. But now that you mentioned it, I've had enough people recommend I look into that. I'm gonna look into that. So thank you for for that suggestion. I'm sure it'll actually I'm sure you recommend that because I've people said it's honestly pretty sick. So like now that you mentioned it, I will look into it, and then that will help me as a person, and I'll help more people. But see how it's see how it spreads, like we're talking about, even spread it to me. Shout out to you.

SPEAKER_02: 56:04

Yeah, look, I I I you know I have a historical background, so I had to study all of these religions in the academic sense, but now I'm saying more in a now I'm immersing myself deeper to all of them, one aspect of another to see this to see what are the common truths here. There, you know, they there are patterns to all of them, believe it or not. There are some patterns, believe it or not. So, you know, we look at the end of the day, uh look, all of them to me, they're just a starting point. Yeah, and then spirituality is just all that combined, and then even more that we haven't even.

SPEAKER_00: 56:36

Oh, it's a whole, it's a whole, it's a whole geez. We're just barely scratching the surface. It's my favorite thing to research, I want to say it's more entertainment than either of the companies by far. So I like it. It helps me.

SPEAKER_02: 56:46

So it's so for those of you who are skeptical, at least do your research. I'll just say don't just outright dismiss it, just do your research. Challenge your own thing if you're brave enough to do so. Or, you know, you just continue to drink your own cool. Or don't like it's uh it's up to you. Yeah, drink your own Kool-Aid. Just just just believe your own um box. Okay, you love your box that much, you stay there because I don't believe in dragging people. I'd rather leave you behind. Yes, I'm that, yeah, I am that shameless.

SPEAKER_00: 57:13

I'll just have to focus on me. If you don't like, you know, you'll eventually catch up. That's the thing. Like you'll eventually everyone will get to the same level eventually, but I got my things I need to do. You know, I'm trying to be sleeping.

SPEAKER_02: 57:24

Well, I want to forget that person exists at that point. I'm just saying, I'm just saying, I'm uh I I have that I got look, this is my my New York mindset. You do it or not, okay. I'm going. I wish you the I wish you the best. Don't get me wrong. I hope everything works out for you, but bye. Yeah, no, exactly. Yeah, exactly. So, you know what? This has been a great conversation. Okay, the last one was just mixed with politics, this one's mixed with spirituality, and you know what? Hey, that this that makes it even better for this podcast because those are the main three things politics, technology, and development. Well, spirituality is the biggest one that dominates that that lane. Hey, you know, and I got people talking about ghosts and all that other stuff. So, hey, you don't need to be look, rather choose believe it or not, it's a tie up to you at the end of the day. I'm just giving you a perspective here, and then you give you give it a shot or not. That that that's hard to say. Let's let's shameless plug it besides dating that I got here. Um anything else you want to shout there. I know you say aces.fun.

SPEAKER_00: 58:24

Yeah, so just um check out dating d a t a-in-g.io and aces.funaces.fun. And my spirituality plug is I'm super into cabolism right now. It's been helpful for me. I like it. Hermeticism is honestly probably my base, so check that out. The Emerald Talent's been super helpful, and my most beneficial spirituality thing I've ever done is a 10-day silence retreat called the Pasha Meditation. That was super sick, completely free. They're centers all over the all over the world, actually. So that's more. I don't believe in I mean, shame is a lower vibration, so those are my plugs. They're my loving plugs, they're not shameful ones. Simply, if you want to check them out, you can if they don't. That's gonna have my back.

SPEAKER_02: 59:04

Yeah, I they're all shameless. This is a very capitalistic podcast there. They're all shameless. Even if it's something shameful in there, well, that's up to the customer to figure that out. It's shameless as far as this podcast is concerned, okay? That's all I'm gonna say about that. Look, yeah, so I'm gonna provide all those links. Or if I don't have them, feel feel free to nudge me to bother Eric to get to get some of those links, okay? That's that's all I'm gonna say, because at times I do forget, and I say, okay, we all you know, one of the point out of the something I forgot to link. Um, you know, so hey, that's um something that yeah, they say meditation, retreats, those are good. It really just clean all that invisible gunk call stress of the modern world. Oh, it does. So that's I've been to a few retreats. Uh I think one was more like a general retreat, one was uh more Christian one. But I definitely want to try other retreats as well just to just to get the the experience. And I I ever tried a Buddhist retreat, just for curiosity, even though I didn't end up not being a Buddhist, but hey, everyone's journey is unique. You make your choice at the end of the day. But I thought I thought the communal part of Buddhism was actually very cool. I just say I wish Christians would implement that more. I mean Christians usually kind of do that, but I don't know. Christianity, even though you're growing in conversion, but terms of birth rates, not that great. That's what Muslims are dominating. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, that's that in terms of conversion, that's what Christianity dominates.

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 1:00:41

So hey, that that these are, you know, look, take it, leave it, and if you can feel sad, happy about it, you know, and yeah, I could give you more stats on that. What's going on with conversion, Russian birth rates, and which one's gonna outpace? Because hey, me, I'm not for religious domination. I just think you should have your free choice to do what or you just not believe in anything, or just be a nihilist. Well, actually, I'm gonna be a nihilist. I don't recommend that. But if you end up being that, you'll be surprised. Yeah, just yeah, exactly. I was gonna be nice, sir. Okay, I mean they'll be hair. I think my vibration is getting a little bit high because only I would say uh say a couple of smart ass comments by now.

SPEAKER_00: 1:01:21

Um that's one thing I want to touch on is I've also I learned that evil speech is pretty unproductive for me. So whenever you say something bad about something, harms the person. First of all, it harms yourself, it harms the person you're talking to, and it harms the person you're directing at. So it's one of those things where just no one wins. And again, like obviously I like to talk shit this up. I'm trying trying to be more aware of when I'm about to say something bad about something, and every time I said something bad about something, it always comes back to my mind.

SPEAKER_02: 1:01:48

Yeah, I'm a work in progress on that. It's tough, but you know, I just wanna strangle that and talk all that crab, you know. And sadly, and you you know, enjoying the old style WWE doesn't help either, because it was just you know, yeah. Look, I love entertainment, especially good shit talk. Look, I was raised on that. Okay, call me, I don't care. You could call me Toxic Mask, the Toxic Man, I don't I don't give a fuck, really. I I don't. But at the end of the day, if you find some lessons of pro pearls and wisdom out of this, you are awesome. Okay, and for those of you that don't, good luck. I'm trying to work on that right now, but I won't be surprised the next episode I'm gonna forget um half of these things. But I know and then serious though, I I am a work in progress because I used to talk bad a lot more. I noticed that, but I noticed I talked less bad in the podcast. So, you know, that's like like season three and four, yeah, I was spewing some, I was spewing some stuff. But I noticed that now it's just more fun or more jovial, more more that. I think it was only one, I kind of had like some negative vibes, and even the guests kind of knew it, but we were just both, but it was but we reached like fair, freaking understanding. He didn't take it personally, which was it was he was phenomenal. I was like, bye bad. I I actually did apologize to him off camera because it was just I know we don't don't bring, I know we could just meditate, rebound, but I just brought that weird negative vibe because of the last interview was so boring and so unproductive. So it's true, yeah. It does transfer. If you're not aware of it, you don't intercept it, you're spreading it to others. Yeah. So Eric is saying it's actually true, people. I don't know. No, no, yeah, yeah, no, it no, we know we have vibrations and it does spread, so there's truth to that, and not even got me a frequency um book. So I'm gonna see, you know, what what are the mechanics of that, but just probably bring it down to the science. So hey, listen, Nicola Tesla is onto something, but yet he's not talked about.

SPEAKER_00: 1:03:46

Smart dude. That's for sure, yeah. That's putting it mildly a fuck a fucking genius. He's not talking about for a reason.

SPEAKER_02: 1:03:54

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now I'm beginning to figure out why. Well, if I disappear, if I disappear, you know why.

SPEAKER_00: 1:04:02

No, I get to that. Yeah, according to Tesla, everything is under your free consideration. He's right.

SPEAKER_02: 1:04:08

Yeah, no, yeah, yeah. So, hey, if you found Nicole Tesla, you know he's dead, but his wisdom is as true as ever. So, and his excess his discoveries are just point, it's super relevant.

SPEAKER_00: 1:04:20

And by the way, once you learn all the spiritual stuff, a lot of his discoveries are based on spirituality too. So there's that.

SPEAKER_02: 1:04:27

He knows what he's talking about, so listen to that. I'll be a fool to reject that. Yeah, so hey, so people just give, you know, follow Eric here, you share some good stuff, you know, not just finance and dating and spirituality. Come on, give him some support, will you? That's what I'm gonna say.

SPEAKER_00: 1:04:44

And likewise, give Elias some support. He comes out here, he puts in the work, and I can tell from the last podcast that's something's much more positive. So it's clearly done. Something's clearly going well in this world. So give him some more, follow him, leave a comment, positive or negative, you're both feeding himself. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 1:04:59

Yeah, exactly. So, you know, and I'm gonna share his social media links as well. That's that's the standard practice of this podcast. So, now for my shamus plugin, which is getting longer and longer because there's some goodies here, some are free, and some you're giving me money without breaking your wallet. Yeah, that's possible, actually. I'm gonna explain that one, but let me get the straightforward one out the way. The new paper. If you're tired of political spin of the news, you just want straight facts. You know, you want a short breed, you know, short read, a very short read. You know about stocks, sports, politics, national, international. Sign up for the new paper. It's completely free. Okay, it is completely free. And then the other thing, join Pod Match. Podmatch is great. I mean, this is how I first met Eric, believe it or not. It is a it is a very it's awesome on software. You know, I have tried others, they suck. So that's why matchmaker. I mean, I never met so much okay. Unprofessional people. There we go. Oh, that took that took some out of me. I was gonna just say scum of the earth, but hey, so somewhere there were. I mean, I never dealt with and you could tell it was very transactional. I mean, I met some few good people from there, don't get me wrong, but it was not worth it. 20% was good, 80% was not great for me. While pod match is opposite, complete opposite. 80% great, 20% not so great. I can handle that. Fine. I don't expect anything to be perfect, but pod matches are very good. It's very good. If you're looking for guests, your podcast, or you're a guest looking for to you know, to be on podcasts, pod match could easily help you. It has an awesome one-page profile feature. You can edit, make changes, changes instead of just doing it the old way. Go to Microsoft Word or PowerPoint, do all those reformatting and typing and then and saving it and it turns to a PDF. They'd be able to update or made a mistake, you gotta redo that crap again and go for that messy email chain. Come on, be smart. We're in 21st century. That is so early 2010s. We're in 2025, people, and we're about to hit 2026 real soon. So come on, get it together, people. Get it together. So join PodMatch, and it is affordable too if you want to go into our higher tier of standard membership and pro membership. Okay, and then for their coolest one, in my opinion, PodMatch might be a little offended. The free guys website. Yep, you could give me money without breaking your wallet. Yeah, it's actually possible. Because if you want a website, we really need one for credibility of your speaker or you know, your podcasting's website, go to them. They're, you know, they got the free and then they got the cheap, and then of course I got the expensive plan as well. I'm just gonna be I'm gonna be transparent, but you could relatively pay very little just to have your website. That's all I'm gonna say, and you'll actually be funding me money as well if you go there. So join the free website, guys. They're they're very good, they walk you through it, they give you step by step, they work at your pace. They don't pressure you, they will give you some follow-ups, but they don't pressure you at all, okay? So that's my final one for you. And for the review, I can't believe I almost forgot this. Give an honest review at Apple Podcasts. If it's a four-star less, give one reason why the the podcast could um improve, right? At least one. And if it's a five star, why the podcast episode was great, okay? I just don't want it's good or it sucks. It doesn't work for me. It doesn't work for me, okay? It really doesn't. So, and then for those of you who use Spotify, I'm not gonna pay attention to those reviews. I think Spotify is funny. They I only use them as a as a walk, as my freaking music playlist. I don't I don't do anything else with that, okay? But if you but if you end up leaving a lot of reviews there, if a lot of people start flocking over there, then I'll have to change your mind. But so far, people's been leaving a review on Apple Podcasts. So that's all I'm gonna say about that. So and oh finally, and this is it finally, this is the most important thing, just like, share, subscribe, you know, the whole social media thing. Share this with someone who you believe could tremendously benefit for it. You know, this is an infotainment kind of thing. You get some information, see some wisdom with some with some with some entertainment, you know, and that's all I'm gonna say about that. Alrighty then, finally, final statement here. When you complete this visual or audio journey, you have a blessed day, afternoon, or night,