339-Unintended Consequences Again with Dr. Bob Thiel

We test Dr Bob Thiel’s claim that Trump’s second-term policies are producing predictable ripple effects across trade, Europe’s security posture, and Middle East escalation. We also wrestle with COVID-era censorship, public health incentives, and why both parties keep missing the deeper consequences. 
• Dr Thiel’s free book and his method of tracking predictions against mainstream sources 
• Tariffs and policies that accelerate de-dollarization and new trade alignments 
• Europe approving new trade deals and rearming for strategic autonomy 
• Protests, “strong leader” dynamics, and the pressure toward EU reorganization 
• Iran “maximum pressure,” neutralization, and emerging regional military blocs 
• WHO withdrawal as a future-risk decision alongside COVID censorship backlash 
• Nutrition, vitamin D, exercise, and why basic immune health became politicized 
• US debt growth, the Asia pivot, and allies losing trust in US guarantees 
• Media bias, multi-source news habits, and rebuilding agreement on basic facts 

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Host Return And Setup

SPEAKER_03 0:00

This is somewhat a repetitive question. What do you want the audience and the viewers to know about you?

SPEAKER_01 0:05

Well, there's at least 18 things in this book that have happened since the book came out. And you see the book is called Unintended Consequences. Four nations don't like. They're going to look to bypass the US dollar and trade more with each other. No.

SPEAKER_03 0:21

Welcome everyone to politically high-tech with your host, Elias. Yes, I am still alive. I've been uploading, but I'm still alive. So there you go. This video should be at least a soft confirmation I'm still alive, okay? I didn't disappear, I didn't get kidnapped, and you know, I don't want to make fun of that either, but your host is fine, people. Uh so I have a returning guest, and I gotta say, I'll say it was definitely the best one of the last season. Dr. Bob Thiel. Yes, I only reach out to the real good ones that I reach out to you. That means you was either too normal or you was boring, and I'm not gonna sugarcoat it. I just have enough grace to give you a one time just to debunk it. But if you couldn't, that's it. But if you have to be at least enlightful, entertaining, definitely quirky because I'm anti-normal. I'm anti-normal. I think that's the discriminating trick I have. If you're too normal for me, I will happily discriminate because normal is boring, okay? Normal is boring. Pretty sure God's probably upset at me with that one, but um, I'm just being brutally honest. Normal is boring for me. So we're gonna have a definitely an enlightening conversation, and we're gonna go through Dr. Bobfield's 18 summaries and plus more. I don't have control of this conversation. I'm gonna let him dictate the flow because it was great the last time. I know when to step in and I know when to just sit down and shut up. This is gonna be more sit down or shut up, especially during the middle of the end. In the only beginning, I have like a soft hand of control, if you will. So soft that I think one slap, it'll fly right off. That's how soft we're talking about here. Okay, so it's very soft control here. Um, I don't like to be controlling unless I know the whole conversation is derailing. Extremely rare, by the way, but every once in a while, I I don't want to be strong and I don't want to just sit back and just take the passenger seat. That's what kind of host I am. Some I talk more, some might talk less. You know, it's about adapting. You're more than one thing, you're not just always happy, you're not always sad, you're not always angry. Some moments you're smart, some moments you're dumb. That's part of being human. You're a mix of all these things, okay? You're not a one-dimensional creature that, oh, I gotta be angry 24-7, or I gotta be happy 24-7. That's crazy. We all not that, okay? So before I continue my yammering and destroy this episode, let's reintroduce Dr. Bob Field. And he just to stay shortly, he went through some things that Trump has unintentionally caused. You know, just because you have good intentions doesn't mean good things will happen, especially if you don't realize them. And I'm gonna let him summarize it. He's gonna summarize it better than me. I know it's a shame. Oh, the host should be on top of it. I deal with it. I'm a weird kind of host, okay? Because he has it more clear than I could ever um do, okay? So that's we introduce Dr. Bob Thiel, and this is somewhat a repetitive question.

Who Dr Bob Thiel Is

SPEAKER_03 3:20

What do you want the audience and the viewers to know about you?

SPEAKER_01 3:23

Uh well, I'm I write I write a lot. Um actually have a like a news blog at co gwriter.com, or I like two or three articles every day about uh basically news and prophecy. And for today, one thing I did is I wrote I wrote a book, and unless people think I'm plugging some book to make money, books I've been for sale. Okay, you can get it free at co gwriter.com. Okay, a free e-book. Anyway, this book came out before Donald Trump took his uh oath of office for the second term. Okay, I wrote another book prior to his first term, and lots of things I wrote or in there said would happen or predicted would happen, happened in the first term. Now, with the second term, there's at least 18 things in this book that have happened since the book came out. And you see, the book is called Unintended Consequences. I'm not promoting Donald Trump. I'm not here to my perspective is world events, how they align up with uh predictions and prophecies. Okay. So I'll try to briefly summarize 18 things that 18 plus things.

Tariffs And De Dollar Moves

SPEAKER_01 4:34

First one was in this book on page 210, I wrote down that by pushing tariffs and other policies that foreign nations don't like, they're gonna look to bypass the US dollar and trade more with each other. Two days after Trump got into office, the head of the uh EU, uh Ursul von der Leyen, stated that they're gonna have to find trade with other people. And she actually went to India to do it. She said that uh everybody's contacting her because of Trump, because they got 450 million people in the EU, and they all they all wanted to trade with her. Furthermore, that Southeast Asia said the same thing. And we also, people familiar with the BRICS Plus Alliance, that's Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, plus a bunch of other countries which have grown, joined, they want to bypass the US dollar and they keep looking at more ways to do it. So that's happened. The other one was I said that uh Europe would the day after he was re-elected. The morning I found out. I'm gonna write down, I'm gonna read exactly what I wrote. And this is in the book. Quote, the morning after his re-election, I wrote, Donald Trump won re-election. Europe will get more serious about trade deals with others internationally, such as being more motivated to approve the trade deal with the Mercosur Bloc of South America. A lot of people haven't heard of that bloc, but guess what? That deal is now officially in place. It was started it provisionally May 1st of 2026. I named it by name when it would happen. And let me make it clear for your listeners. They've been negotiating a lot of these Europeans, they've been negotiating these deals for decades, but they didn't want to do it. When it went, even after Trump came in, they said, no, we can't do it because it's gonna affect the farmers, it can affect this, all this stuff. And the EU said, look, we still have to do it. Yeah, but we've got veto. We don't care. You still have to do it. So they've actually done it. So that was one that's really clear. The next one we talked about last time, and this one's kind of almost a funny one, and this is on page 206. Gold will set records in US dollar terms. Gold will set further records in US dollar terms in the relatively near future. Well, in 2025, that happened over 50 times. Okay, now I want to make it clear. I've said that gold could go down. As a matter of fact, I wrote at Cogwitter earlier this year that I think gold is overpriced, now that would go down. And it did. Okay, by the way, I'm not here to tell you what the price of gold is going to be. But I based it on various prophecies, both in the in the Hebrew scriptures, the Old Testament, which people call it, uh the New Testament, as well as some writings from the Greek Orthodox and the Roman Catholics. Okay, so I said based on most of the biblical ones was that's what's gonna happen, and it did. The fourth one was to expect more protests against Donald Trump. And you know, they got to know kings and all the rest of that. So people say, well, anybody could have figured that one out. Okay. One of the unintended reading from the book, this time page 58 and 59. One of the unintended consequences of Trump's actions is that after crises, more Europeans are going to decide they need their own even stronger leader. And that's gonna happen according to Revelation 13, 10, 1713. Now, this partially happened. They've actually, of Europe, they've actually called the Chancellor of Germany the Fjord, which is the same title Adolf Hitler had. And another article came out that's the man Europe's been waiting for. Well, I don't think he's that guy, but uh a political scientist told Euronews because of Donald Trump, more European voters are looking for a strong and decisive leader. And interestingly, a couple of days ago, uh, out of Russia, the Russians said the European leaders are weak. Trump said the European

Europe Trade Deals And Rearming

SPEAKER_01 8:30

leaders are weak, also, by the way. That's insulting them, and at some point in time they're going to take a real step. Now, that one's only got a partial confirmation. They're just talking about it because Trump didn't actually confirm it. Next one, almost everyone knows this has been confirmed. Page 87. Donald Trump has often encouraged increased military spending by the Europeans. He's enabling the rise of the King of the North Power who'll be in the league with the final Antichrist. Well, they've increased it. They greatly. They keep increasing it more and more and more and more and more. And here's a quote from another news source. This is from Euronews. Europe has become convinced that its American allies no longer will no longer guarantee its security and has decided to re-arm massively. And I saw last week where Farid Zakaria on CNN, he was interviewing a couple of Europeans, and he asked him, I'm like, is this over once Trump is gone? They said, no, we can't trust the Americans anymore. No, we have to. Here's another one. Now, Trump is unique. A lot of people don't know this about uh his uniqueness on this one point. Last, do you remember the term Brexit?

SPEAKER_03 9:43

Yes, I do.

SPEAKER_01 9:44

Okay, that's the British exit from the European Union. The biggest voice outside of the UK who wanted it was Donald Trump. Okay, he's the biggest one as far as I could tell. And so the Europeans are upset with him because of this. They call him say what he has is a divide and rule policy. So instead they say that they have they've called for a new world order based on European values. And two weeks ago, related to the uh to Giorgia Maloney, the head of Italy, the Associated Press wrote the following quote: U.S. President Donald Trump's attack on Italy's premiere have had an unintended consequence. It's helping draw the Europeans closer together. That's exactly what I wrote in the book. Of course, I did not write her. But I thought it was amazing to use my words, unintended consequences, and I said this is going to be one of the unintended consequences of Donald Trump's uh presidency. And so that was uh number seven. Oh, here's one. This is from page 47. Donald Trump. Many have rightly pointed out he often acts like a bully. If you heard things related to Greenland, you've heard things related to Canada, Europe, Mexico. Okay? I don't have to cite the news sources. I think most people know that's right. Now, the next one, it would be funny if it wasn't so serious. This is number nine. This is from page uh 67 of this book. It's believed that Donald Trump will likely use some type of maximum pressure strategy against Iran during his next administration. Iran may decide to strike out against Israel, possibly Jerusalem, if the Trump administration andor Israel takes actions it does not like. What happened actually in 2025? And then, of course, in 2026, we've taken it a step further. Um, we keep bombing Iran, and so I would consider that a maximum pressure strategy. Now, here's one that a lot of people hadn't thought about. This is page 48 and 49. The Bible teaches about a great power who will be destroyed by its friends who become enemies. Lamentations chapter 1, verses 1 and 2. Some statements are pushing friends, NATO allies, into becoming enemies. And there were the BBC said the U.S. was turning friends into frenemies. US has been making frenemies, okay? And let's see, just more and more stuff about the oh, three-quarters of the French now think the United States is not a reliable ally. A very large majority of Denmark, historically pro-American, now have unfavorable views, the U.S. as well. That's also from the BBC. And that's probably a lot of it to do with Greenland on that particular part. Trade

Iran Pressure And Regional Blocs

SPEAKER_01 12:40

deals if you're not treating us like allies. Yesterday, a poll was released by uh Pew. They do this big polls, and that they've interviewed bunches of countries. And guess what? China is now, for the first time ever, more favorably viewed than the United States by most of these countries. Okay? We know China has its own issues, don't get me wrong. But policies and statements from Donald Trump himself, as well as his administration, have been pushing friends, or at least people who are kind of, you know, kind of want to do stuff business with, at least, right? And making them not happy with us, okay, with the United States. Now, number 10 is the one that's the least confirmed, perhaps, on this list. And uh the Bible talks about a time of uh pestilence, Fourth Horseman of the Apocalypse, and the U.S. uh Trump pulled the United States out of the World Health Organization. Now, first of all, I also have degrees in the natural health side, and I think the World Health Organization did not handle COVID right. Uh, I was censored, all this kind of stuff. So I am very sensitive to those kinds of things, and I'm not pro-globalist agenda or anything like that. But sometimes there could be unintended consequences of pulling out of something like that, and pestilence are going to come. Matter of fact, let me digress for a moment. About two years after COVID, YouTube yanked something that I put out in November of 2019. People even really know about COVID. It it exists, the coronavirus existed, but nobody knew about it really. I w I warned. I said, look, we're going to have some super bug. You know, bacteria, maybe it's a bacteria that doesn't antibiotics don't treat or something. Don't let people convince you that they've got the answer to this. It's going to happen. I didn't mention corona. I got censored two even two or three years later during COVID. They yanked it because I had the audacity to say something would happen, which happened. Okay. But anyway, that was just my number 11 there with the pestilence again.

SPEAKER_03 14:59

Let me actually know I'm curious about that, the COVID thing, because this is when actually I started the podcast, and I, you know, I did say something about COVID. They struck

WHO Exit And COVID Censorship

SPEAKER_03 15:10

it down, even if, you know, I wasn't spreading, you know, this I, you know, and the only thing I would say for me personally is that I should say, you know, this is not medical advice, don't treat it as such. Fine, I'll take that criticism. But just to strike it down entirely, I was spreading misinformation, even though they came from me, they came from my mouth. I say, look, this is a perspective, sometimes prayer helps, you know, and I do agree. Nobody knew the answer. People who pretended to do were charlatans, in my opinion. Probably a harsh word, like like Dr. Fry, Dr. Front. He mishandled AIDS. When I looked up that history, so why should we trust him? History is there, people. This is not a conspiracy theory. But no, let me not digress, let me continue the list. I just had to say a little something about that. Well, let me add to that. You'll go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 15:57

First of all, you mentioned AIDS. I had research that I submitted to Dr. Fauci's department back in the 90s. I did what President Bill Clinton had asked for. He wanted clinical adjuvants. That's something that works with the anti-AIDS drugs, A, Z, T, and DDI, and I had something that worked. And so I submitted this to the National Institutes of Health. And they twice said that my work had significant scientific merit. They asked me technical questions, I responded. When I responded the last time, their response was, yeah, you answered our questions, but we really don't want to look at this nutrition option. Okay? Now, they would have helped during COVID if they would have listened. Now, I told you something else happened during COVID. I had something at Facebook. I had 32 references in a two-page article. It was removed, censored by Facebook. Then YouTube. Here's what I did. Elias. Now after I say this, you probably think I'm so terrible you never want me again. No, not really. Okay, here's what I said. I did a YouTube video and I said the following. Vaccines aren't the only thing we ought to look at. That's all I said about vaccines. We need to look at our own immune systems. We should two or more servings of fruit and three or more servings of vegetables per day, which is, by the way, the official U.S. government diadeline. And I said, but skew them toward high vitamin C fruits and vegetables. You should eat pumpkin seeds. If you don't like those, eat zinc. If you smoke, quit smoking. You should go outside because sunlight converts cholesterol into vitamin D. And what they never told you, and this was not in the video, but they never told you, if you had a normal vitamin C levels, vitamin D levels, excuse me, you had a 50% less chance of dying from COVID. The Associated Press would not cover that, and they made fun of people who were on that side. That was the mainstream. And then a few other things happened to COVID. So I went through this long list. I said you should exercise, don't smoke, lose weight, stuff like that. Now, if you don't mind, I'll get real controversial. Okay, here's a lie, they die more. If they had if they trusted the medical side and they did more vaccines, it would be better. That's basically the spiel. You ever heard of a country called Haiti?

SPEAKER_03 18:12

I certainly have. I'm sure monsters have.

SPEAKER_01 18:15

Okay. Haiti is in the Caribbean. It's, I think, the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere. So they are poor. They are predominantly African, black, whatever term is appropriate to use. And your chances, and they weren't vaccinated, like 3% vaccination. Your chances of dying of, according to official statistics, if we believe the United States official statistics and official ones in Haiti, you're about 70 times more likely to die from COVID in the United States than you were from in Haiti. Now the United States had two-thirds to three-quarters of people who were vaccinated. Okay. Now, you say, well, that's just a fluke. That was just Haiti. You just picked them. All right. Ghana. They're also darker people. I don't know about their weight, but I know in Haiti they're very thin. And the only people I'd met from Ghana were, I'd say, normal in terms of physiques. Well, out in Haiti and in Ghana, they walk outside a lot. So they're getting, remember I told you, sunlight converts cholesterol into vitamin D. So in the United States, we had all these people inside gaining weight, by the way, and therefore not converting the cholesterol to vitamin D. That Haiti should be. In Ghana, they also used herbs to treat it. So you're about 30 times more likely to die from COVID in the United States than you were in Ghana. Okay. Now, how much of that did you hear on the mainstream press?

SPEAKER_03 19:49

None. None. I didn't hear any of that. I've said that, and I've said this before. I said the reason why we die from COVID, because we are so freaking unhealthy. That's what it's like.

SPEAKER_01 20:00

That was a good part of it. And also when they counted COVID deaths, which weren't COVID deaths. Okay. But I used official statistics. It's not like I was out somewhere just making stuff up. I look, I've got this article about the Trump stuff that we're talking about. Okay. You can find at uh an article I've got at the Cargoider website. I have all those 18 listed, and I have live links to news sources, mainstream news sources, not just your podcast, not to insult you or someone I might do. No, mainstream. I mentioned, okay. I see one here, it's from Fortune. I see one from uh Politico. I see several here from Euronews. I mentioned BBC. I'm pretty sure I've got CBS, all these other mainstream CNN. I mentioned that before. And so it's not like this is stuff we're making this stuff up. So I better get back to my list because I can talk about the AIDS thing. And by the way, if you're department would have listened to me for AIDS, they could have easily dealt with COVID, because my opinion, this is my opinion, amongst other things, I have a PhD in nutrition science. In my opinion, COVID was an easy-to-treat disease. Does that mean people didn't die? Oh yeah, people died, but people died from the flu, too. Sam Neill just died from pneumonia, okay? But everybody who gets it doesn't die. All right. So I thought it was a reasonably easy treat disease to treat, but the mainstream treated it like it was not. Okay, number 12. Trump's

Debt Growth And Europe Independence

SPEAKER_01 21:35

policies, this is on page 91 of the book, are pushing nations away from the United States and helping set the stage for what's called the final time of the Gentiles. And the uh Ursula von der Leyen, head of the EU, she said that uh Europe will keep seeking cooperation, not only with longtime like minded friends, but with any country we share interests with. Okay, why is she saying that? She's saying that because she's they were frustrated by this, and other places have said it as much. Okay, number 13 from page 91. Trump statements are getting more to consider. They need to reorganize. And the Bible teaches that this is going to happen. And over at the World Economic Forum, which is Europe-based, and in the EU, they're saying that they they need to reorganize. And I mentioned Ursula von der Leyen a bunch of times. She's the EU commission president. She said to sustain our growth the next century, Europe must shift gears. Well, that sounds a lot like reorganization. So here's a simple statistic. Anybody could look this one up. Number 14. Sitting down for this one. Official USA debt will rise in Donald Trump's second term in office. Okay. Well, the day before he came in, it was 36 trillion two hundred six billion, blah, blah. And as of July 15th, it was 39 trillion four hundred and eighty-eight billion. Now, the funny thing about that one, I did a radio show in 2021. Oh, not 2020, 2017, after Trump got in the first time. And the guy, the host, had been a delegate to the Republican convention. And I said that I was making a prediction on the air, the debt's going to go up. Oh no, Trump is going to reduce the deficit. No, that did not happen. And so that one, that one is easy. Now, while anybody could have predicted that, I base it actually on an ancient prophecy from a guy by the name of Habakkuk who warned about loading up pledges. In modern terms, we might call those treasury bills. It will not your creditors rise up against you. So that's actually what I based it on. And of course, that happened. Okay, the other one's number 15. By focusing too much on threats from China and almost always considering the Europeans as some type of ally, the Donald Trump administration is currently not expected to reverse the Asia pivot strategy. What is that? That was something that Hillary Clinton had promoted that basically said, look, Cold War's over. We don't need as many troops over in Europe. We don't need to worry about Europe so much. And so we're going to go and deal with that. And the Europeans are saying that the United States is too focused on China. Those are the two superpowers, and they're ignoring us. And you know, Trump keeps talking about drawing down troops out of Europe and doing other things out of there. So that's being confirmed. Oh, and this one, number 16, page 213. Many in the USA do not seem to realize that once the Europeans are spending more for their own militaries, they'll also expect to have more independence from the United States is how that military might be used. And this is going to encourage them to be more independent. That's page 63 and 213. So I mentioned I Freed Zakaria. So I watched it. Somebody sent me a link to a podcast he did with some people. And he said, look, yes, Trump is to be credited for getting the Europeans to spend more in our militaries, which I said he would do. But this comes with a price. The Europeans are going to spend more money, first of all, on developing their defense industry and quit spending so much with the United States. And Europeans are going to quit listening to the United States so much on this. And you know, since the second administration, the Europeans have been very bold that they need to have military independence from the United States. Now the next one is going to be slightly controversial, number uh 17. This is from page uh 67 of this book. Despite his posturing and relative military strength, Iran will be somehow effectively neutralized. And I quoted Ezekiel 32, verse 24 from the Bible. Since I can't put that out, the press has reported that Iran has been neutralized. At least that was a quote from Benjamin Netanyahu and some others. Now, for neutralization, by the way, I first warned about that in 2007. This was not unique to the Trump administration. I said Iran, basically because it's got a big mouth, big influence, and big military, and the Arabs don't like it, mostly Arabs don't like it, is it's got to be neutralized before some other things happen. At least partially neutralized. That doesn't mean gotten rid of. It just meant that it's got to be in a position where it doesn't have the military to control what it wants to control. Which, by the way, for your listeners, it wants to control Jerusalem and all the Arab countries. Okay? They're very upfront about that. That's what they want to do. Now the next one is one that I haven't seen really in the press. They tend to ignore this one. But here's what I wrote. This is number 18. So the last of these is page 66. This will sound weird, and then I'll explain it. Expect the 47th president Donald Trump to take steps that will help lead to the rise of the King of the South. Now, the King of the South is a leader, according to biblical writings, who will be in places like Libya, Egypt, and the Arab countries. Okay. North Africa, who would include uh probably people from uh uh Sudan, uh, etc. Okay. And because of what's been going on with Iran and what Trump's been doing, a lot of people are talking about having what they call an Arab NATO. Now it's not NATO because that's North Atlantic Treaty Organization, but that Turkey and the Arab countries are talking about getting together to have some kind of a military alliance. Oh, I for I neglected to mention Turkey is also one of the countries that is King of the South, according to the Bible. Okay. So that has happened, and that's happened since you and I were on last, as of course the Iran neutralization. That wasn't on the last time, you know, I talked. So those are a couple things that are brand, totally brand new, as well as some of the others I talked about that have been updated since I was talking to you. So anyway, those are 18 things that predictions that are in the free book. Again, it's at CogRider.com. That's happened. Again, I came out the 19th, I think, yeah, I think I think it was of January 2025, just before Trump was inaugurated, and till present. And I probably may have missed a couple of things, but at least 18 things, predictions in the book have already happened, at least partially happened.

SPEAKER_03 28:56

I got one very annoying question. I'm not sure because it says I interrupted, I do apologize. What is the 11th point again?

SPEAKER_01 29:04

The 11th point had to do with him pulling out of the World Health Organization.

SPEAKER_03 29:09

Okay, yeah. I would look the only brief thing I'm gonna say about that is this is gonna be very brief. Is that look, I'm critical of cool, but I don't think we should necessarily pull it out. I mean that's pretty much my attitude. I mean, that yeah, I yeah, so I second your opinion. Oh, I mean, yeah, so look, I think they mishandled COVID. I'm just gonna be upfront with that. I'm not, it shouldn't be controversial. I think YouTube's a little more nice about it, not after the fact and the other social medias, but you know, I think it and and I was very disgusted with the COVID censorship. I think I think I almost got censored service. I have to keep saying, and I'm gonna say it's this podcast just to be legally diligent. Do not use this as medical advice. This is not a medical kind of podcast, okay? But my listeners, you have high IQ. I don't have to worry about you and high EQ, which is even better. So I don't have to worry about y'all. But for those of the random listeners that just think we're spreading conspiracy theories or this is a Trump-loving or hating, not I'm not, I'm not at any of those camps either. I give Trump credit when it's due, and I criticize the heck out of Trump. Neither of us are, I think both of us are immune to the Trump derangement situation or the trouble-loving Kool-Aid, I would add, because they praised Trump no matter what. He could never do anything wrong. He could shoot a baby at Fifth Avenue. Oh no, he was defending himself. What against the baby, please? And then Trump could save the baby, and then the other side said, oh no, he didn't save the baby. It was AI Doctor. We had none of those things. But I try to be as fair-minded as I could be, and it is very hard with this landscape.

Finding Facts Across Media

SPEAKER_03 30:50

And I'm gonna plug in my own thing. Try ground news, try all sides. You'll get the coverage from multiple political angles, and then you'll have a bigger picture, what the heck is going on in general. Instead of just listening to the left-wing flavor, the right-wing flavor, even the centrist flavor is biased, and that's the camp I'm normally in, the centrist camp. So just get your whole, just because if the fact, the sad fact is if you can't agree on basic facts, this is why our democracy is eroding. We can't just agree on basic things. Look, political ideologies, that's debatable. That's not my issue. My issue is how we go about these things. Oh, you can't agree with me, you're the enemy. That's a big problem. And sadly, my generation younger has that kind of mindset. Oh, you're too right wing for me, I can hang out with you, or you too left wing for me, I can hang out with you. That's that's problematic, and it's getting worse with these statistics. I wish it wasn't true, but it's getting there. And me, I gotta say, I'm blessed to have friends on multiple political angles, left and right, and even center, because I don't judge by their political attributes. I judge by the character, okay, not by their political ideology. They could be a socialist, they could be a good person somehow, and a person can be far right, and then they can end up being a good person somehow, not far right. Actually, someone that's Republican, they could be good person. I I go beyond that. If if you're a bad person, like a legitimate bad person, not political ideology, that's not my criteria. I don't care where you lean politically. Maybe except if you're a communist or uh you know fascist, that's different. I cannot be friends with you at all because you're objectively evil in my mind, you know. So, or you know, simply a white supremacist or any supremacist, I can't be friends with you at all. That's how I draw the line. I have to draw a line somewhere. So, all right, sorry for that yammering. I just had to get that off my chest, but let's get into the good stuff. Yeah, we didn't talk about Iran at all because of course Iran is somewhat of a recent thing, and I did talk to someone who has perspective on that, and I know we I know we've done a lot of damage to Iran. I don't think the media has admitted that. When you said neutralize, neutralize, I know it doesn't mean you know, you kill the country, you blow the smithereens kind of thing. But there's no such thing as Iran. It just means I think I love your definition. I you just annihilate their military capabilities or even influences because they do control a lot of groups. You know, people forget it, they control, you know, groups in Lebanon and Yemen, yes.

SPEAKER_01 33:17

Yeah, right. They've got their tentacles out there, but still they don't have what they had before all these attacks.

SPEAKER_03 33:24

Right. Yeah. So we we suffer the tentacles, but the creature's still breathing. So it's I would say metaphorically paralyzed, you know, and of course paralyzing military influencer, even financially. Yeah. I mean, I don't even think I'm gonna give praise to Iran. Um I don't support them, but they did have a mechanism to replace a leader without um a total collapse. Because they did learn their lessons from you know from the shop. Venezuela. Venezuela, oh definitely Venezuela. Yeah, Venezuela. That one, that one was a quick that one was a quick, quick, one, two, done. We know we don't even talk about it anymore. We I think we got what we needed, it was done. And I think of course Cuba's preparing as well because they know how they know Trump will do something. It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when, uh, for the most part, unless something else really happens. I'm not I don't have a crystal ball in my head. But look, I look, this, I gotta say, this is like the most fastest moving presidency ever. And we went from super slow with Joe Biden, now we are super fast. There's no balance. What's going on, America? That's just my meta-analysis. It was super slow on the Biden, four years, feel like 40 years, and now with Trump without Trump, I think he's I don't want to say accomplished. He's done more, let's just say that way more than Joe Biden probably did his entire term already. Probably probably twofold at least. I don't know. I could be a little dramatic, but he's done a lot more. That's my point. I where we go from here with with um Trump or 19th point.

Jerusalem Risk And Peace Deals

SPEAKER_03 35:05

What will you add? I would go, that's a good question I could go with.

SPEAKER_01 35:09

Uh I'm watching. There's a couple of things. You mentioned Iran. There's a prophecy in Isaiah about uh great damage happening to the city of David, which in plain English means Jerusalem, for in the context there. And it looks like it would involve Syria, Iran, and uh Lebanon. So that's something I'm kind of watching to see. As far as with Trump, you know, when I went through some of those 18, a lot of those 18, they're partially there, more movement in a lot of those than we've already seen. And remember, when I when I went through those 18, I was citing public news sources. Look, I don't know what the Europeans leaders say closed door. Okay, I I I don't have anybody from the inside. I and nothing, okay. I'm just using publicly related available information, okay, that's in the regular news. And so I there's probably some stuff going on that I don't know. I'm still looking for other alliances, I'm still looking for if we get a greater conflict over there. If, for example, I'll give you a hypothetical. If an Iranian-led coalition does great damage to Jerusalem, if it's great enough, could Israel drop and do? If it's great enough, okay, when you look at the Middle East in the peace situation over there, and Trump's tried, Biden tried, Clinton tried, the Bush has tried, Jimmy Carter had some kind of a deal, but nothing has resolved the the issues. And part of it is this side says you have to do this, and this side says I won't do that under any circumstance. A deal is going to eventually happen. Now, if if neither side, if my hands I could hold them farther apart, but they won't show up on the screen. Okay. They couldn't be any further apart on some points. What makes people agree when they are like that? When they're busted down when they don't have a choice. I don't want to pick on Japan, but the United States required an unconditional surrender. How did we do that? Hiroshima? Didn't quite do it. The Nagasaki, they thought we had a bunch of these. And we said, by the way, you guys have Tokyo. Yeah, we've been nice. We weren't nice, we killed hundreds of thousands people, whatever it is. You were going to agree because otherwise it's it. So that's how you get to Japanese who would not have wanted to normally agree to do something. Now in this case, it's going to take the Israelis and others to agree, the Palestinians. And neither one right now is in the mood to do it. But if they're hit hard enough, and I'm not I'm not encouraged them to get hard hit hard or to launch nukes or destroy Jerusalem or I'm not. But when I look at the Bible, you know, probably we're going to have a big flare-up before they actually can come up with a temporary peace deal. Now, mention Trump. I'm sure he'd love to have his name on an important peace deal. Okay, name on well you wanted on the Kennedy Center, he lost on that. Oh, by the way, there's a new Trump coin, they're minting. You didn't hear that? Yeah, I was on the news yesterday. A commemorative coin for the 250th anniversary of the United States or something. It's a $1 coin. I'm not in favor of all those kinds, I think that's ridiculous to go and do all that. But his nature is he wants his name out there to be remembered. By the way, this guy named Jesus said, you know, don't let your right hand do note your left hand. Don't go out and do things just to get your credit. But he he likes to get credit. And in his defense, a lot of politicians do, but they're sneaky, they pretend that they don't. Oh, what an honor you named the freeway. We got one around here. That's like they should never have named it after this. The only freeway around here that was properly named, it's never their freeway, was two police officers when they were responding to some kind of rescue mission. Some freeway had flooded, the bridge went away, they couldn't see because the fog. They went and dipped in the mud and they died. So they named the freeway that after them. Okay, that's not ego. That he did something. But we got another one around our politician. He gave money for stuff. Somebody got money and put his name on it. Okay? So I'm not a big fan of that. But anyway, I'm sorry, I've digressed. Getting back to Trump, he really likes his name on stuff. And if there's a deal that he thinks he can get involved with, even if he doesn't cause it, I think he'll back it. So I'm watching, but I sadly I think we're gonna have to see more destruction before that occurs.

SPEAKER_03 40:14

Yeah. Let me add a petty commentary. You could accuse me of having Trump derangement syndrome on this one. Until he is dead or done something significantly great, which is still debatable at best. I will respect it. I'm not respecting a Trump coin, a $1 coin. And if I'm gonna go on a conspiracy theory territory, I'm warning you, there's talks about putting his face on a hypothetical $250 bill. I will oppose, I oppose that immediately. I answer simply, this is the most I'm gonna get. Hell no. Capital just capitalized that whole, those two words. And put some exclamation marks, emboldened it, highlighted it. That's how loud I'm shouting it. Go right ahead.

SPEAKER_01 41:05

Where

Why Politics Fails Long Term

SPEAKER_01 41:06

I very much disagree with President Trump, President Biden, President Obama. I didn't mean to skip him before because he wanted to do something in the Middle East too. The Bushes, Carter, Reagan, Gerard for that matter. Don't know if I think I well, Nixon. Their focus is the physical world. And we understand that. I mean, we put there to be physical people. But um when you look at your legacy, you know, we promote the uh gospel, the good news, the kingdom of God. We don't believe that an American politician, whether it's Donald Trump or AOC who might run for president, or Bernie Sanders, who probably would have, if the Democratic Party wouldn't have pushed him aside, or J.D. Vance or Marco Rubio, and I'm sure there's some other politicians that I didn't Governor of California, Cavanusa, or whomever might become the next president of the United States. We don't think that they've got the right solutions. But we look at things like the deficit going up, which happened, by the way, under all those the only time it dropped was under Bill Clinton, and that was partially, we'll call it the peace dividend. He did have a couple of positive policies. Like it's not like he had nothing to do with it, but he didn't have a huge amount to do with it. But otherwise it's gone up with all the rest of them. And you know, I look at biblical prophecies and say, this is not good. Woe to him who loads up pledges to himself. Will not your creditors rise up against you suddenly? And I keep seeing the pledges go up and up and up and up and up and up and up and up. And if you divide it by how many people we have, it's like they're not going to get paid back, at least not in money that's worth the same. And so when I look at uh President Trump uh and his potential replacement, uh because they don't look at prophetic matters or take them seriously enough, I think they're leading us down the wrong uh path. And by the way, lest anyone think I'm picking on Republican because of Donald Trump, I also wrote a book about uh Joe Biden. I also had one on Obama, and so I and I had one on Trump the first time Trump was in office. It was funny, I had my office manager at back then was a was a Democrat was a strong Democrat, and I'm not a Democrat or Republican. And I said, I'll write no matter who's the next president, I'm gonna write about that. And so she saw, yes, I wrote about Obama, then Trump, and then uh then Biden, and then Trump again. Because despite the fact that they have real differences among certain policies, I'm not totally into the uniparty party theory out there. But there is a lot to the uniparty party idea. They are doing a lot of the same things because look, the same programs keep going, the government keeps going. Growing, the deficit keeps going up. And as a person who believes biblical prophecy, I say this is bad. You know, the Bible warns all kinds of things about debt. And so I'd like our listeners to know a couple of things. One, when I went through those 18 points, they're based on my understanding of predominantly biblical prophecies. And I say that because a lot of people think the Bible can't be trusted. And I when the prophecies are properly understood, yes, it can, and they are coming to pass. I said there were 18 so far in the new Trump administration, which has only been a year and a half. My previous book, I think there were 22 that Trump either partially did or fully did, or it happened that I'd said uh during his term from the from the first book. And I think there was a 15 to 20 in the Obama administration, by the way. So I want to make it clear. Like you, I'm not saying one party's always right or always wrong. But because they don't take seriously the Bible. Now I moved slightly so people can see it above me. We've got a free booklet called The Gospel of the Kingdom of God. We've got that in like a hundred different languages. Okay. I don't I'm not all of them are online now, but most of them are. Telling people, look, yeah, you should go about your daily, you know, you should go about your daily stuff. Jesus said, Blessed he finds so doing when he comes. Okay. And Paul said, Don't be busy bodies just walking back. No, you need to work, do your life. Okay. So we don't tell people don't do that, but we do say be cautious where you put your hope. Human politicians are not the answer to any of the parties. And we've been shown that over and over and over again by what they say, what they do, and what they don't say, what they don't do. And so, you know, you ask what my major point is, that would be the the primary point. Now if you don't mind, I'm gonna digress just a little bit.

Science Faith And Exodus Evidence

SPEAKER_01 45:57

I actually still hold a scientist license. I've had one for twenty-something years. And I'm a published I'm also a published scientist. I have a the theology degree and I have a science degree, a PhD and a PhD. And what's hilarious to me, if you watch the documentaries from the mainstream, and I'm gonna go back to what's way younger, like 10, 11.

SPEAKER_00 46:22

Everybody who's educated believes in evolution. It's only the uneducated people who don't believe in it.

SPEAKER_01 46:28

Okay. Now so I read stuff and I it didn't quite fit. And when I was a sophomore in high school, okay, I'm 13 or 14, whatever it was. Maybe 14 or 15. I remember our biology teacher. Two things I remembered. One, all these things that were making fun of what people used to believe. And I'm thinking, how do we know everything we believe in 1972 is right about biology? I was right, we didn't. By the way, just in case you didn't know this, do you know what when I was 11 or 12? You know what my science book taught told me about blood, human blood? That it was blue. I'm not joking. I was taught in school, in a science book, the human blood, if you look at the veins, is blue, but it instantly turns red once it gets exposed to the oxygen. I was taught that in science. And everybody believed this. I mean, that. So anyway, getting back to this evolution class, I'm gonna tell you a couple of things. So the teacher goes on and she explains about what's supposedly arachnid spiders evolved, 150 million years later, insects evolved. So I come up to her after class and I say, You said that spiders evolved at a time, and then 100 some years, million years later, insects did. Well, spiders eat insects, so what do they eat for 100 million years, 50 million years, 150 million years, whatever the number was? She gets mad. She says, Rocks, and she turns and walks out. Now, I tell you this because first they said this is the uneducated. I have roughly 12 to 14 years of university education, including a PhD in a health field. And I can assure you from a scientific perspective, there's no possible way one the universe itself just popped up into life itself just popped up. And you know, Stephen Hawking the okay they asked him, because he believes in the in the in a physical big bang. Okay. We would say that if something like that happened, but God did it, all right. He believes in a physical big bang. And he's they asked him, what was before the Big Bang? You know what he said? Nothing and imaginary time. Now, I'm sorry, I am a real scientist. He was not for saying that. Okay, nothing and in something imaginary does not turn into the entire universe. And I know they said how renowned he was and all this kind of stuff. Oh, there's another book up here. It was God's Existence Logical. That's all those are free ebooks, also, by the way. You can all the stuff I'm talking about, that, as well as how life couldn't have uh just spontaneously jumped up. That's all in that book, that free booklet as well. So people can go to cogwriter.com and find it and read them. But the mainstream, you know, likes to denounce the Bible, likes to act like they know exactly what they're talking about. Didn't I tell you that 30 years ago I used to write for Wikipedia?

SPEAKER_03 49:36

That was your long intro.

SPEAKER_01 49:38

You've heard of the Exodus, you know, children of Israel leaving, uh having the plagues and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_03 49:44

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 49:45

All right, so Wikipedia says it's the founding myth of the Jewish people. And he said it's a founding myth because it happened in 1250 BC, and there's no evidence it happened in 1250 BC, therefore it's all a myth. He says, but there's some people who say it happened in 1446, but we don't believe that. Okay, well, here's the problem. First of all, it did happen around 1446 BC. So when you tell it, look at 1250, yeah, you didn't find it in 1250 because there's no evidence it happened in 1250. Duh? Okay, that's logical because it didn't happen then. You look around the mid 15th century BC, around 14 uh 46, plus or minus, there is evidence. And the the hilarious thing, they used to say there was absolutely no evidence. I actually saw an article in a mainstream publication two months ago. It said, Well, outside the Bible, there's only evidence in two or three places. A couple years ago they said there was no evidence anywhere except the Bible. No, well, there's only a few little here, and actually there's more than two or three. So I say that so for people don't discount scripture because the experts and you know in the Bible, God says there's nobody like me. God says, Look, I can say something and I can make it happen. All right. So when I went over 18 things, they were based on scripture. Now I realize it might seem a stretch to go from the Bible says after the start of the Great Tribulation, the United States will be gone and gold will be valuable. And I said, Well, that means that gold's gonna keep going up. It's gonna have ups and downs, overall is gonna go up. So it didn't absolutely have to happen in Trump's administration, but between that and other comments from Donald Trump about debt, I was pretty sure. So that you say I took it, I saw the prophecy and I took another step. Okay. But some of the other ones, like the debt going up, that was a prophecy. I didn't write, I didn't write that one. And the stuff about Europe reorganizing, those are all those are all in the Bible. And so and combining that, you know, Jesus said to watch. And he was talking about world events. And so uh, say I watch what Trump's saying, I see what scripture says could happen in Europe. I think this means when Trump's in office, he's gonna do things that are gonna push them in that direction. And that's basically the case for you know the kinds of things I was talking about, and that's that's where where it came

Wrap Up Resources And Reviews

SPEAKER_01 52:22

from.

SPEAKER_03 52:22

So yeah, listeners and viewers, have you been listening to all of this? I hope you've gained something out of this, you know, knowledge, prophecy, enlightenment, whatever. Or maybe you just inspired something out of you because this is some really good stuff, and this is not an anti-Trump or pro-Trump podcast. I I I did have pro-Trumpers in here, if I have anti-Trumpers in here. Anyone is welcome to this podcast. As long as you're brave and willing to deal with quirkiness and willing to talk and be prophetic, and sometimes you have to denounce your own talking points, or I will do it for you. Either way, because I've denounced either one side of the aisle than the other one, especially one of them said, Oh, Kamala's ambiguity is gonna lead us, it's gonna lead the Democrats to victory. I said, No, no, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. And sadly, I would say circumstances ruin her, but that's more of an opinion. Uh, but I blame more the Democrat machine and the leadership for that one. Listen, yeah, I could just be controversial with that as well. And then there's some people on the right that says stuff that uh yeah, I know trans sports is an issue, but that's not to me, that's not the biggest issue in the world. I'm more paying attention to what's going on in America, bigger issues. And also fortunate a couple people got hurt, at least they're alive, or do something, revise it. But I'm not gonna be the hell I'm gonna die on. You know, hey, I like to have a good conversation, and there's times I'm gonna have the good, I'm gonna have an opinion. That sounds crazy to me, and you know, oh you I mean, my mind is changeable, don't get me wrong, but you're gonna have to be really convincing. Yeah, and some things I'm not surprised I'm right about. Yeah, Kamala, yeah, Kama's ambiguity is gonna lead us to victory. I laugh that one off. It's like, ah, nice gentleman, left-leaning, but I said, No, I disagree with that. They tried that crap before, it's not gonna work. And she fumbles a lot on interviews, that's another thing. But hey, I mean, people, I know people vote for Kamala are disappointed, and this podcast, say what you will, have an opinion, fine. But I don't want to hear this is a pro-Trump or anti-Trump episode, at least this episode. The other ones you can say I'm more anti-Trump. They want more pro-Trump, that's fine. I mean, I'm purple, I mix colors wherever the hell. But you know, I hope we really gained something out of this because this is all just Trump prophecy. Love them, hate them is irrelevant. This is stuff that's happening right now, it's gonna impact us one way or another. That's what really matters. Loving them and hating them is both of them are equally problematic.

SPEAKER_01 54:50

Oh, you talked about the facts. You talked about facts, and that's what I tried to say about these 18.

SPEAKER_03 54:56

Yep. So these are the things that you're gonna do.

SPEAKER_01 54:57

You can look the facts up. We've got links for the facts. You can go, first of all, you can go Google to check it out.

SPEAKER_03 55:02

And he sources the living heck out of his own stuff, okay? So it's not just him making gobbledygook. So if you put that in the comments, I know you're not paying attention to this podcast. I or you just troll it. I will know that for a fact. We say anything along those lines. And I'm not gonna, I'm just gonna ignore it. It's nonsense. It's beneath me at this point, okay? That's what I'm gonna say. And this is a real gutsy question. Anything else you want to add before I wrap this up?

SPEAKER_01 55:30

No, I I think we've covered uh the primary points and uh we'll be sensitive to the time for yourself and your listeners. But again, I do believe biblical prophecies can be trusted. This book was actually in printed form. So uh even though you find it online, it's not been changed. Okay, so what I wrote is is coming to pass because I for prophecies are coming to pass. You Jesus said what I tell you, I tell you all watch. And I've been watching and writing and trying to warn people about things that are going on.

SPEAKER_03 55:58

Actually, I got one more thing I want to add. This is his last time coming here because he kind of bashed his pockets for being a credible source, okay? This is his last. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I take no offense to that. I'm trying to sleep right there out of wake up.

SPEAKER_01 56:11

I didn't say you were incredible, but you were not.

SPEAKER_03 56:14

No, no, I know, I know. I can do the same thing with me about me too. I trust me, I will I will invite him back. If he'll come back, it's because he hasn't responded. That's the only thing. But that's different, okay? He means busy. That's meaning the oh oh, there's a falling out. Not everything has to be negative. Sometimes life happens. I can be busy or you can be too busy. Time's online, it can be something as boring as that. Oh, you know, Dr. Bump deal and lies hate each other now. This is fine, this is not happening. No, not even close. All right. This has been a great episode, as always. And for listeners and viewers, since I'm gonna wrap this up, go check out the cog rider.com, check out his great work, serious zombie. Now I'm wearing my series hat. Check out the great work, okay? Because he has a lot to offer, and this is, you know, this is not just some guy on the street, like I said, drinking the Trump loving Kool-Aid or the Trump derangement pill. You know, they both bad. They both bad because you're colored, you're deluded, and you're just believing one side over the other. You're trying like it's good versus evil kind of. That's all I can say. Remember, go to ground news and you know, sources that at least have all the sort, you know, all the partisan sources together, aggregated, and then you see what the truth is, or follow the freaking new paper, okay? Very short, factual-based kind of thing. You know, if you love your politics, it's one-minute read. If you love everything in there, it's a five-minute read. Yeah, that's as long as it gets. It has stocks, sports, whatever in there, but it's fact-based. It's not all Donald Trump killed this person, or Donald Trump created the miracle. You know, anything too loving or too critical. It's fact-based. Okay, and we gotta get back to that. I know it's not gonna happen because social media and TV media love sensationalism and ratings, and sometimes bending to one way, one extreme or the other just generate ratings. I get that. It's sensationalism. Oh, Donald Trump's next coming Jesus Christ. Oh, you're gonna pay attention to that, whether you love it or hate it or not. Or, you know, Donald Trump is the next Adolf Hitler. Oh, you're gonna pay attention to Donald love him or not. You see that that that's already that's already a hook right there. But we talk about oh, Trump did this and it saved this people and get that detail. Okay, you're bored. You're like goldfish at this point, some of you. I'm gonna be honest, not my listeners though, but some your attention span is shot for some of you. And God help you. I want to just say that. I do believe, I do believe in God if you want to know my um belief, because without him, none of this stuff would just simply exist. So, Stephen Hawking, as great as he was, that was probably the most silliest thing I heard came out of his mouth. Nothing. Or he probably was just too afraid to admit that God was a cause. Either way, it's foolish, it's human pride, and that's what happens, even from the smart or renowned people. Just because they just because they smart and renowned, it doesn't make them immune to foolishness. He's just he's just more known. That's all that, that's all that is. Renown is you're just more known. You just have more publicity, okay? That's all I'm gonna say about that. So again, check Cogrider.com and get his books. Even though I'm pro-capitalist, he has them for free, so he's charitable, okay? So I don't want to hear, I don't hear an anti-capitalist rant. Okay, he's charitable. More charitable than I would be, okay, if I had a book. I don't know. I'm gonna do a book, but if I make sure if I do a book, I make sure I just jam-packed with value, and then I'll feel confident to at least sell it for a model. I'm not there yet. Maybe next year I'll write a little something about how to get people back together, even with different political opinions, ferociously, but love each other later, not in a romantic way, more as a friendly kind of way, you know. Plutonic, obviously. So don't twist my words there. I don't say love. No. Plutonic, friendly kind of. So that's all I'm gonna say about that. So, all right, this is the end. Whenever you listen to this podcast, you have a blessed day, afternoon, or night. And before this actually ends, give a review on this podcast. Give a five star, and I want a good reason why it gets a five-star. And if it's four stars or lower, how can this podcast improve? Be specific. I appreciate specific constructive criticism. Not Elias is gray or Elias is stupid. Empty insults or compliments are useless to me. Put something there so I can improve. One complain about sound, one complain about lighting. I fixed those. And some say I'm just gray, it continue my weird, unorthodox personality. Great. Okay, it your comments, if meaningful, has influence. But if it's just empty insults or compliments, I'm just gonna ignore it because it's just below me. So again, whenever you listen to this podcast, you have a blessed day, afternoon, or night.