341- Do Not Let ChatGPT Turn You Into A Dummy with Mohamed Nabil

We dig into AI ethics where it matters most: how people learn, how ideas get published, and how easily “smart tools” can make us intellectually lazy. Mohamed Nabil pushes a debate-first approach to AI and makes the case that global problems may require global governance built from direct democracy, not elites. 

• Why banning AI in schools backfires and how panic starts 
• Shifting education from memorization to understanding and debate 
• Requiring AI prompt logs and defending reasoning publicly 
• Using AI to criticize your work instead of ghostwriting it 
• AI Debates on One’s Publications as a transparency model 
• why global supply chains make local politics global 
• The argument for a single global government to address climate change, inequality, and pandemics

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Welcome

Welcome And The Big Question

SPEAKER_00 0:01

everyone to Politically High Tech with your host, Elias. I have a brand new guest here. You know the history of this podcast. We have old guests, new guests. I want some new, some, you know, someone different. And trust me, he's definitely gonna bring something up that's gonna be interesting. I mean no, I and I'm just gonna say it's politically. I know some people on the right, they think one global government is super evil, they're gonna take over, and all this stuff. And maybe some people on the left agree one government, one world government is a good thing. It organizes everything. Control be centralized. We'll see. But this is more for you, audience. You have your opinions. Me as a host, I just want to explore what the guest does and all that. You have your comment section if you want to express your support or anger towards that. Freedom of speech, okay? I mean, I don't, you know, and I don't, you know, try to abridge that or cut that off as much as I can. Sometimes it's tempting, but no. I don't, you know, I want to at least be show the good part of American um values for freedom of speech. Because I do support freedom of speech, and I support any organization that supports freedom of speech. So, with that out of the way, let me introduce our new guest here, okay? And we're gonna talk about mostly ethics and AI and why the heck one world single global government can be a good thing. Okay, or or let's get his opinion of it. I don't want to assume too much, okay. And he is the author, and you know, he just doesn't write about AI, he writes about critical thinking and all that. And I'm gonna just read some of his work right now. He's the author of The Bachelor's of the Egypt novel, Enlightened Populism. I like that. Enlightened populism because stupid populism is not a good thing. I'll tell you that right now. Reflections on the new cycle of the pandemic. I do have my criticism on that. And he also has his interview with ChatGPT. Oh, that is interesting. Global justice novel, and he has a shirt, shameless plugins. I support shameless plugins, it's a good thing. And then we also have ideas that survive AI D-O-P, and that stands for AI Debates on One's Publication. Set minds free. That's a good thing. Don't you argue with that? Humanity's money and truth is sexy. I don't know about that. Truth is enlightening free, but hey, those are the tiles of his books because we want to make truth sexy so more people could, you know, be truthful and make it attractive to seek truth instead of just being afraid of it or challenging it because, oh, it hurts my feelings or it challenges my personal narrative. We're grown-ups, people. We gotta we gotta do better than that, okay? And we have to be able to talk to people with different opinions, okay? Because if you can't, you're not an adult, you're just an old child, in my opinion. An old child or never good looking, okay? And it's creepy. So be a grown-up, okay? At least be a grown-up. All right, so he, you know, and we're gonna talk about all AI ethics and education, publication, and I'm interested in learning about that because we do need ethics in AI because AI is acting up, and in one of my last episodes, I talk about how AI is acting on its own, invading other AI-based websites. We definitely need ethics, we definitely need some guardrails there. So, with that out of the way, let's welcome Muhammad Nabil.

Meet Muhammad Nabil And His Work

SPEAKER_01 3:46

Thank you for having me here.

SPEAKER_00 3:49

Yeah, no problem. So, what do you want the listeners and the viewers to know about you? Let's start off with that.

SPEAKER_01 3:56

Well, um I'm a freelance market consultant. I was awarded uh a prestigious award back in 2022 in Dubai. Uh I have a background in social activism. I'm one of the founders of uh Haraz the Harasses Campaign. It's a campaign fighting for harassment in Egypt. And I'm an also slash philosopher with three main pillars of my philosophy. I created AIJP, which stands for AI the most communication. I could find the lighting populism as a major pattern of communication. And I'm actively advocating for the establishment of I unify the local government government to be ruled by local systems.

SPEAKER_00 4:51

I can barely manage to handle one or two things. It's like that's enough for me. I'm just gonna focus on freedom of speech and just that and and that's it. One world, I mean, one global government, that's very ambitious right there. Um, I do hope it works out. You know, I might, you know, I do hope it works out, especially when it's manifested, because the way the world's operating, it's a bit chaotic. I mean, we all could agree with that. Doesn't matter where you are in the world, even in America. Trust me, America's not immune to it. We got an interesting um leader, let's just say that. That causes a lot of the chaos. So rather you like Trump or not, that'll matter to me, as he he's a cause of some of the chaos for sure. So I'm just gonna make this a broad question instead of just making it as a topic.

Ethical AI Use In Education

SPEAKER_00 5:39

What would be good ethical use of AI on education? Feel free to explain that to my um audience.

SPEAKER_01 5:50

Well, uh, there is a panic in education systems around AI. Anything assigned to this can be done via AI tools, and this issue continues to grow over time as these tools become smarter. Tutors can solve this problem by requiring students to submit AIVP sessions at the end of each assignment and handle debates with other students on their findings. The catastrophic idea that students can get LMs to do work on their behalf, then teachers let LMs mark the submitted content on their behalf means that oversight is needed within all levels of the educational system. So let's shape let's let's make a shift within the education system from memorizing lots of stuff to learning how to understand things and how to uh come up with uh a concrete debate on education, how to how to run on a single arguments and counter arguments among students and the great great within the educational system.

SPEAKER_00 7:08

Yeah, I like what I heard there because that's been a big issue. I could confidently say it's within American education system, especially when I was in school. Everything was about memorization. Just memorize a whole bunch of facts, you're good to go. Well, we all know, yeah, you can memorize a whole bunch of facts, but if you don't know how to think or apply knowledge to what you learn in an effective way, you're you're just I'm gonna say this very meanly, the very mean way, but you're just you're just a person who can memorize, but you're still kind of a dummy because you're not using information, you know, properly. Uh yeah, I can memorize a whole bunch of facts. Oh, yeah, Brian Lincoln was born in this day. I can remember all the capitalist cities, that's great, but how are you gonna apply that to life? Like, for example, how you're gonna travel there? What would be the best route of getting there? That's how you you know apply what you know, I you know, and of course create debates, which I like that because you're having people challenging different ideas, and that's why I kind of said in the intro, instead of just, oh, I don't like Muhammad because he's just different and he just makes me feel stupid. I don't mean anything. How, how, you know, how how? Um, because you're not really thinking, or you know, or or you just realize your argument was not good to begin with, but you got caught instead. So I like that because people need to think better, debate better, and I'm sure you're aware of social media, you have a bunch of social medias, a lot of people say very dumb things, and some get challenged and they some get upset. Because look, once you put yourself in social media, you will be criticized or praised, depending on your on your audience, or your opinions or your philosophy, if they have a philosophy, some are too too dumb to have a philosophy. Let me just be honest. Or if they do, there's gonna be challenged because some people are gonna have different opinions. And that's fine. To me, that's I mean, that's it's messy, it's chaotic, but hey, at least there's some exchange, there's some exchange of ideas there. People need to be comfortable doing that. I and I think I'm sure some of the world has lost that, but definitely America has lost that. We was able to debate those with different opinions and get passionate, and maybe a bit loud, and then we can reset and go back to being friends right after that. So just oh, you're the devil because you're just different and you liked a certain person. So that's what's going on, particularly in America. So yeah, that's I I think that's good edge education.

Catching Cheating And Teaching Thinking

SPEAKER_00 9:46

But and I would like to just say one example before I let you continue about how one professor was very smart catching students using AI unethically. He he said he has a list of questions, right? I think it was about politics, but he put an invisible text saying, and it says, What will you do in Madagascar? It didn't relate to the assignment at all, but he wants to capture to see if students are using AI thoughtfully, intentionally, instead of just copy and paste. And the vast majority just copied and paste, have the AI, AI Chat GPT, whatever they use to generate the answer, and the professor failed 90% of them because the AI answered everything, including the Madagascar question. That's how the professor knew the students were cheating using AI. And I said this over and over again. If you're gonna use AI, be intentional. Don't let AI lead you to blindness, and you know, this is why this organ upstairs called the brain is getting weaker and weaker, relying on AI for everything. AI is a good tool. I use it for art, I'm bad at art. Politics, I'm not using AI. I have studied enough politics and know what AI is giving me lies. I said, that's not true, that's not accurate. And I could point out another source. You have to still think critically when using AI because AI can give you the wrong information. It's not the perfect intelligent being. And this is why I've been saying. So if you're gonna use AI, use it intentionally, be smart about it. Don't just copy, paste, be lazy, do it blindly. Because you will get caught. And I'm happy that those students failed because they were being lazy using AI as the easy way out. And I'm happy those unethical use of AI was being exposed. So that's all I'm gonna say about that. Anything else you want to add about ethical use of AI in education? Because you're right, because in especially in America, I'm just gonna say this real quick. It was ban AI, ban AI, ban AI. A lot of education institutions. It was panic. Panic, ban, panic, ban, ban, ban, ban, ban, ban. It was just a knee-jerk reaction. That was a lot of American educationists, the high school and even the colleges. It was just ban, ban, ban, and if they use it, they're gonna fail. I said, Well, JAGT is increasingly being, you know, being integrated and connected to our lives. So I don't think banning is such a good idea. And there's ways around, and there's ways students could you know dance around it. Students are not stupid, they may be lazy and unethical, but definitely not stupid. So they're gonna dance around those bands. And how you get how can you tell if they if if if the response came from AI? So that's all I want to say. All right, let me keep quiet. I want to see if you got anything else you want to add to the ethical use of AI in education, because I can keep going with this.

SPEAKER_01 12:48

So getting back to AI debates on one's publications, I just want to make it clear for your audience. It's about uh publishing something, then copying it with it to uh feeding it into uh AI tool, and then asking the tool to criticize the content, engaging in back and forth argumentation or publishing our entire analysis trust within 24 hours of expectation. So it's about using it to defend your own arguments, it's about getting into as a basic AI tool, allowing it to expose many logical tendencies you may have, or blind spots, or uh letting to shorten your own uh urgent by response.

SPEAKER_00 13:36

Oh, you know, I assume that at the tools for that, not just you know, copy paste, oh I got my information, that's it, done. No, then that's you know, that's just lazy AI use. Um that no, that's good. Um people follow this, man, okay? You try to make a smarter with AI, okay. Follow him, follow him, all right. Just you know, and look, it he's not the most salesy kind of guest. I know a few of you said, oh, I have a guest that's too salesy. He's not, he's more of an author than a philosopher, okay? He's not really a salesman, but he can sell his products, okay? And you know, and if it's good, it's good. Even from Egypt, you know, even though I talk most about American politics, but I don't mind getting involved geopolitically because we are we are very integrated. Whatever happens in one country is gonna affect us indirectly or directly. So this is say, oh no, I only care about America, forget Egypt, forget Russia, forget China, I don't care. No, that's not smart. They could be, you know, hacking us or they're doing something to disrupt our economy. You need to pay attention. This is what, you know, it affects. We are very interconnected. We are we have a very global economy, okay? Um rather rather you acknowledge that or not. So this is why I allow people, people from other countries. Yeah, yeah, I focus mostly on American politics, American education, but you know what? We're so interconnected, we got the internet that we can't just be, oh, only America, only America. You could focus on America, but you know, you I think it's smart to pay attention to what's going on around the world as much as you can because you wonder why some product prices go up. Global chain disruptions affects your shopping people. You see, uh connected to your daily lives, make you care about it. Oh, why is my banana cost $20? Well, the banana plantation got blown up in Venezuela, okay, for example. Why do you think banana prices went up? Because that happened. Yeah, you know, it happened in America, but it happened in another country. And they ship bananas to America, okay? This is why you get that that's why you should pay attention to what's going on around the world. Instead of complaining, why am I bananas $20? Why is this happening? I don't know, I don't care about Venezuela. Well, that's why because they bombed the plantation of Venezuela. It's a hypothetical example. It didn't really happen, so calm down, people. I'm just giving a hypothetical example why you should pay attention to um global, um, global events every once in a while. Okay, so let me just um end, let me just end that right there instead of just being a box and living in your own little silos.

Why Global Events Hit Your Life

SPEAKER_00 16:12

Anything else you want to add for ethics, the ethical use of AI in um education.

SPEAKER_01 16:19

No, nothing else, but I'd like to pin on your point. Uh, what you just mentioned about caring about politics from uh other countries. We have common challenges. We have uh these supply chains are global, as you just mentioned. We have billionaires represented an extreme wealth inequality, that's a global issue. We have climate change, that's a global issue. We have uh recurring pandemics, extensionally recurring pandemics in the future, and that's a global issue. So we need to care for each other, and we need to care about what happens around the world. So you're completely right in that if you are a US citizen, you have to care about what happens in Egypt, and if you are living in Egypt, you have to care about what's happening in the US and Sumania or Northwest.

SPEAKER_00 17:09

Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I absolutely. And another thing, and this is something that America definitely has to be better. The world is paying attention to us. Sometimes we're so blind, we don't pay attention to other countries because uh, who cares? Oh, they don't got a famous pop star from there. Oh, then I don't care for that country. I'm really okay. So this is why we only care about South Korea because they got a boy band that's super popular. That's that's wonderful. You know, uh, we pay attention only to certain countries. America has to get better at paying attention to what's going around the world. And me too, I realized my blind spot. I'm just gonna be quick about this. I wasn't paying attention to Africa nearly as much as I should. I was paying attention to all the other continents, but not Africa. I said, wait, I need to get that fixed because I'm sure they have things going on. So if people want to travel to an African nation, be careful because someone are allowing Americans. This is why you should pay attention as well to just say, oh, I'm gonna go to this is a hypothetical example, not based on real life, I want to go to Nigeria, but what if a military evasion happened there and they now allow Americans, and then once the Americans get there, they're gonna kidnap them. This is why you should pay attention to what's going on around the world. You see, I connected to travel, something a lot of people do. Instead of just making an academic argument, because I know academic arguments, it goes through one ear through the other. People don't want to pay attention. Shut up, nerd. They don't want to hear it. But if I connect it to real life, then people will start paying attention. And hopefully you do pay. But not my audience, my audience are intelligent. You're fine. I'm just criticizing the normal simpleton, the normal, you know, where their upstairs are either dormant or damaged, you know. And this is why we should pay attention. You say this is why, even though this is mostly market podcasts, this is why I bring guests for other countries, because we need to know what's going on. Like Iran, Iran, Iran, they got the great crisis and Egypt. Oh, yeah, they, you know, that's that's that's some connection to what's going on with some Israel, you know, Israel. You know, they've really heard next to each other right there. So, yeah. And you know, they had displacement people and all of that. And yeah, but once you pay attention to that, um, should should you be obsessed with it? No, don't do that now. You you would be mentally ill. I just get enough facts to make intelligent decisions. That's my point. Instead of just saying, ah, I don't care. Oh, I don't care what's going on in Ukraine, it doesn't bother me. But yeah, why think we ingrained went up for the last couple of years because those areas have been bombed. Global chain supply example. Again, you buy bread, right? Yeah, so I'm connected to real life basic stuff that you do. Okay, so that's all I'm gonna say about that. That's all I'm gonna say about that, because this is why we I I even I focus on America, but I do pay attention to what's going on globally, because some of that impact could travel here rather indirect or very rarely directly. Yeah, directly could be price increases. Or why you're not allowed to travel to a certain country. Those things do matter. Um, so just be blind, you know, so just be going there stupid, not knowing what's going on, you get kidnapped. Because you need to pay attention to that hypothetical invasion that happened in Nigeria from another African nation. Remember, hypothetical, not a real life example. I'm sure you check the news, you're not gonna get any of that, but this is why you gotta pay attention. And that's where you're going over with Carl Faso, and I forget two other nations. That they have militaries kicking out the French and the American troops. They want to be in their own, they didn't want to deal with the colonizers. That's more the real example of what's going on. Um, I gotta check with some updates on that. I've been fully updated on that issue, but they were pushing back against those people who were military forces from not violently for the most part, but definitely for France and the United States. So you're gonna travel to those countries, just be a bit careful. That's it. Um, especially, you know, like and I love what you said, the pandemic. Let me focus on that. Don't go to a country where they're having a pandemic unless you want to get sick. I don't know why you want to get sick. There's something wrong with you there if you want to do that, but I'm sure most of you don't. Yeah, I don't know what you know what diseases are going on around the world. Because let's be honest, even though America does not have the best healthcare system in the world, but there are some countries that have it far worse. Far worse when it comes to healthcare and containing you know the pandemic. So this is why you should pay attention. Pay attention. And me, I welcome guests from From anywhere. So once they're just willing to be in the podcast, that's the only limit. Okay, that's my only limitation. Um, if that won't be in the podcast, and it's not like dude, there's no conversation. That's it, it's that simple. And you know, they got something good to add. You know, I have people from India and people from I did have a few from Iran. Um, you know, and I have guests from, of course, Europe, few in South America, India. Yeah, I'm almost touching the world little by little. Good. I think I just need one from some like Eastern Asia. I think I need more from Eastern Asia, but I'll eventually get there. We'll see. Now, let me wrap that up. You

Ethical AI In Publishing With AIDOP

SPEAKER_00 22:40

have anything else you want to add before I move to the next topic?

SPEAKER_01 22:43

Let's move to the next topic, okay?

SPEAKER_00 22:45

Okay. So let's talk about AI ethical use on publication. You already mentioned you have you organized a group for that. What would be a good ethical AI use? Can I just copy and paste, I don't know, Shakespeare and just claim it's my own? I did it.

SPEAKER_01 23:05

Well, I I think back back to the point of AIDOP, which is AI debates on one's publications. I think it can have a revolutionary impact on education, publication, publishing, science, social sciences, and humanities. And policy making as well. So within publishing, it changes the relationship, it changes the dynamics between the author and the audience. I'm not asking you to blindly accept or reject some of my conclusions. I'm giving you the reasoning behind these conclusions with arguments and talking or arguments on. So you can pick your side accordingly. You can form your opinion, uh, an evidence-based opinion based on the content provided. So that's the main thing. That's that's how you say he was then published.

SPEAKER_00 24:02

You see, look at that, he's a very reasonable man here. You I don't want to see in the comment section say, oh, he's forcing me to think his way. You're either trolling or you're just being straight up evil. And that I will definitely flag that comment. That's that's definitely not true at all. Okay, you form your own conclusions, okay? He's just said that. I'm gonna defend the guests on that one. Okay, may disagree how he does it, that's fine. Again, let's get to exchange ideas here, you know. And um, so I cannot copy Shakespeare with the AI and just claim it and just say that I'm the best writer in the world. Can I just do that? No, no, I don't think that's ethical.

SPEAKER_01 24:44

It's it's possible, but it's not as good. It's pretty weird how people use AI tools for ghostwriting. You already know that don't create something new. Uh you already know that it would just get uh mix some bits and pieces of uh the the usual stuff they've been trained on so you would be Shakespeare and at the same time, uh Joe Jorul. You'd be a combination of these figures together. So it's it's just it's just queer. You don't know it it's it's impossible to for at this moment at least to come up with something creative as you said, use what the up says and come up with something beautiful, come up with something really creative, and you need a human translating. For my own use of AI, I I use I use it across all of the my publications for debate because it has almost the sum of human knowledge because of the usual that the SAS has been trained on. It's capable of providing, it's capable of running into arguments, a series of arguments and counter-arguments with me. So readers can benefit from it. But I think you're getting thus trying, and I don't I definitely don't use this creature mobile. That makes my mind dumb if I dumb if it's uh he brought up a good point.

SPEAKER_00 26:30

He used my own point against me, using upstairs, but it's like using the upstairs. I won't be lazy and take the easy way out. No, but that's true, though. That's very unethical. Just me, just copy the works like, just put my name, Elias Martin, instead of Shakespeare. I said, No, no, I did it. I made Shakespeare relevant. I should get the credit. He's dead, he's been dead hundreds of years ago. He don't need the money, I do. You know, I'm sure you can hear arguments like that. But let me just be serious now. Yeah, no, it's definitely um unethical use. Um, you know, you're just really just taking someone's idea and doing that. And I like what you said there because that's not even, I'm sure it's not even being thought of enough, especially globally. Definitely not in America. We're using we're using for silly artistic crap. Let's just be honest. Some of it's funny, some of you know, some of it's good entertainment, but definitely not thoughtful. Creative, yeah, use it creatively. Come up something original. That's yeah, I don't think AI is good for that because just it's just taking aggregating, meaning taking a whole bunch of sources that already exist on the internet. So you definitely if you want to be original, I guess you could use AI, but just be very careful how you use it right there. I'll just say it's create something your own and maybe vet to see if there's something else that is similar to what you're doing. Maybe you know, something like that, or just research if there's something something similar, or your idea is very unique. It was unique, go for it. Maybe it could work, or maybe so unique that it might fail. But you know what? Give it a try. You at least know the answer. It was it very good, or it was a failure. And don't take the failure personally. I know it's easier said than done. I used to take failure very personally. I just thought it was worthless, dumb, you know, whatever. But if you want to be original creative, I you know, I don't think AI should be the main tool to use. I always say use your own upstairs again, make connections and even challenge yourself. Does it make sense? Will it be good? And then if you're brave enough, go ask the people you trust if you think it's a good idea or not, or have a sample group of people that say, oh, that sounds interesting. I mean, you know, there's one title book I got, and I just said it's a random person, and don't be offended, religious people. I think I have a provocative title for one book. I said, I think God is the biggest troll. That that'll be the title of the book. Oh, okay. What do you mean by God is the biggest troll? I said, He allows all these bad things to happen and he wants me to be strong about it. Can he just make those problems go away? That'd be one example, right? You know, some people say, oh, that's an interesting idea. That definitely has a hook. That's definitely good. Some people talking. People who are atheists might like that book, and people who's anti-God would like that book, but the people who are Christians are gonna think that you're our enemy of God. So, no, no, no, no, no. I don't. Well, you see, that that's that's the kind of attention I would want. People debate among each other. They think they know me until they read the book. So, oh, okay. It's a little more complicated. He's not saying God is bad, but you're just saying that God allows this to happen because of ABC. You know, that's more religious example. You know, be creative. Yeah, you definitely have to use you definitely have to use your upstairs, your brain, people. Just use your brain and be creative about it. Does it make sense? Vet it yourself, test it yourself, be critical of yourself, and then see the positives of it. That's all I'm gonna say about that when you make a publication. Make sure it's not something that's too similar because someone who's real established it a long time ago, they already have their audience, and they're gonna most likely keep that audience. At least try something original so you can build your audience, and then let's see what happens from there. Um, you can be super successful or it might be a fail, but at least find out if you're brave enough to do that. And make sure you're willing to have enough risk tolerance, meaning have enough money to say, okay, I'm only willing to lose 10 grand, you know, especially if it's not gonna be a successful product. Make sure you have risk tolerance built up into it. Because if you if you want to lose a single dollar, then don't do it. Because it requires risk. New ideas are risky. Okay, that's all that's all I'm gonna say about that. They're risky. Um, anything else you're gonna add about AI ethical use and publications?

SPEAKER_01 30:46

No, that's fine. Let's move to the next point.

SPEAKER_00 30:50

Okay, alrighty then.

The Case For One Global Government

SPEAKER_00 30:54

So we're gonna get to the very interesting. Some of you in America is gonna call it the one evil world government, and some's gonna think, oh, it could be a good idea. Okay, let's see if it's good for global justice. I mean, that's that's certainly a debate. Maybe one world government could be a great idea, or maybe it's a very bad idea because you know, some people like, oh, you're ignoring this part of the world, but you're focusing on the other part of the world, you know, what whatever criticisms you may have. So, do you think the one world government is a good idea? If yes, why?

SPEAKER_01 31:34

Well, I believe uh it's the main solution for the problems we mentioned earlier. We've got climate change, we've got billionaires grief, and we've got the recurring, potentially recurring pandemics. So we can tax billionaires out of existence by establishing after establishing the single global government, we can abolish monarchies and definitely abolish military industrial complexes. We can establish introduce basic human rights such as sheltered, access to clean water and food, education, healthcare, freedom of expression, freedom of movement, and speedy, stable internet connections. So I believe this would be a much more beautiful. We'll expand the middle class, we will have the university specific intimates and stuff like that. We'll expand the middle class, and then we are we'll not the uh creative part in the human brain. We'll have more authors, philosophers, painters, artists of all time, uh filmmakers, whatever. We will have uh all sorts of crazy people uh building up uh um a more digital society. So I believe this will help us achieve as a global community what we've never been achieving in the past, and more importantly, it's about human evolution, it's about the evolution of a society, the evolution of a global society coming together, relying on cooperation instead of the competition, the competition of fragmented nations paid so long for the world.

SPEAKER_00 33:32

Oh, can you hear that? Some good ideas in there for sure. You know, shelter, clean air, water. I mean, we shouldn't even be arguing about that, but yet that's very political, especially I can say confidently for America. You know, the right wing is like let the people figure it out. On the left is saying no, we need to do this to the government. You know, clean water, clean, clean air, you know, shelter is a human right. I have some not privilege. So I'm just giving you the basic American version, maybe too simplistic for some of you, but that's generally what it is. And I'm sure other parts of the world got some similar um issues. I mean, they are recurring themes. Um once you start paying to globally, it's okay, global supply chain. People don't, you know, only the rich got access to clean water, air, and all that. They live in the best parts of the neighborhood because they get they could afford it, right? And you said corporate greed. I didn't even know it was a global thing. See, I learned something new every day. I just thought it was I knew it was an American problem. It's very pronounced in America, corporate greed and control on top of that. Because we do have a lot of influence on the government. This is why artificial foods thrive in America as opposed to the rest of the world, for example. Canada bans it, European countries ban it. Oh, I'm sure definitely Japan, South Korea, they ban a lot of artificial stuff that that's been placed on foods. But American foods are okay because corporations could just have to have their lobbies, they have the influence, and the government can't really, you know, regulate. I mean, there's some efforts to try to do that now, but it's gonna be much harder because corporations could always find out, they always compare new lobby, say, oh, okay, pass these laws here, and they and they play with words like that, you know, the politicians can fall for it or they get paid. You know, that's how that's how it kind of works in America. So I love America, but America got its problems. I'm not gonna, you know, just say, you know, just have this, oh yeah, you know, America perfect. Oh yeah, America, best thing in the world. No, we got we got our problems. I mean, all countries got their problems. And and that's just something that um one has to think about. Okay, can one world go? Can this collaborative kind of government, it sounds like we advocating for here, people with different experiences, expertise around the world, maybe have insights they could share that could probably help this one world government. It could be a good thing, a bad thing. That I don't know. I to be honest, I I don't know because I'm not super right lean, I'm not super left-leaning. I think too much government could be a bad thing, and I've seen that, but I've also seen how government could do good when it's done right. So I know both sides of the aisle and government control. Government control can be great, and then sometimes government control could be bad. New York City, government control is bad. That's why that was more bad than good. They'll love to take your money, and they and if they find a little excuse to take your money, they'll take it. Um, that's just my personal opinion. But maybe, but just maybe, maybe we have this collaborative government that focuses on the comedy of the people. Maybe it could be such a great thing, and this is definitely more the left-leaning people of America. We'll definitely support, definitely more what the right wing is, right wings. Oh no, no, I want to focus on America. I don't want no global foreign thing ruining me. I love my guns. They're gonna try to take my gun away. I'll I'll blow them to smithereens. I mean they get killed, um at least threaten to. And yeah, so that I that I I I don't I don't know. This is one of the few times I'm just gonna really say, I don't know. Because I know the good and the bad of how government control works. It could be great, it just has to be executed, I guess. But I, you know, that's what I'm gonna say about that. Maybe it could maybe this this could be a solution. Maybe. This maybe. I, you know, this is one of the few times I don't really have uh, you know, a strong, strong opinion. It's not that I'm checking now because I see pros and cons already, um, clearly. Um, you know, but um anything, you know, any anything uh uh oh no, I got a follow-up question.

Resources And The Problem Of Priorities

SPEAKER_00 37:50

What will you say to the detractors who thinks your idea is crazy?

SPEAKER_01 37:57

Well let them let them speak. Uh for instance, you can you you said you have sound pros and cons in your mind. You can tell me a few of the cons you have.

SPEAKER_00 38:08

The cons I have, for example, will be one about how resources will be controlled. For example, and I'm just gonna make this up along the way, and I've seen this with the European government in particular. They got all this fish. I think it was in it's definitely not Great Britain. My details are a little mixed up here. They had this fish, right? But it it was only reserved for another country, but yet the country that captured that fish, they need that fish. So we got to priority. So I can see a priority kind of issue that I could foresee right away, because they already happened in, you know, in the European Union, there's already a debate on that. And some people don't like the European Union because they have a tight control on resources, even though it's made for that particular country. But that country that gathered the fish, they don't have rights to it because it's going to another country. So, how can one prioritize the needs for that? Because the local people are gonna need it a lot quicker than I don't know. And I'm just gonna compare to uh maybe another nation that just needs it, I don't know, because they'd have a fish shortage, wherever it is. How can one prioritize that? Because that's definitely gonna be a problem.

SPEAKER_01 39:18

Well, instead of relying on representative democracies like the EU or the current system of the in the US, we can rely on direct democracy, direct democratic participation through citizen assemblies. So you'll have hyper local citizen assemblies. Your citizen assembly will be ten minutes away from your own by by far, and then we'll have these citizen assemblies cooperating together to come up with global solutions for global issues, and they can have their own local legislation on cultural issues that aren't related to the global uh to the global thing. And this way we can ensure that 100% of the resources belong to 100% of the people.

SPEAKER_00 40:14

I see it's something different there. That I think that's interesting. People, not super governments or organizations, collective people. That that's an interesting idea. Um maybe it could work. And then let me see, let me just challenge that a bit. What if people cannot reach to that agreement and say, no, my no, my country that gather all this darn fish needs it tomorrow while you know while you know some of us or while some of the other people are saying, oh, oh bo, but my but my country has a shortage of fish and they need it and they need and they need this on MASAP, and this is a foreign nation, but they part. But how how can that be addressed? Because you know, as much as we like people to be in control, whatever, but there are gonna be many different opinions and definitely many arguments, which I'm sure you're fine with that, at least everything you told me. How can give me an idea how that could be resolved? Like this is like local priority versus you know geopolitical priority. I'm sure that's gonna come up quite a lot.

SPEAKER_01 41:21

The priority uh okay, so forget about the countries. The countries won't exist, there will only be this so you may say I'd like to prioritize the interest of my own district over the interest of the globe for certain resource issues, like you mentioned. So, in this case, the priority goes to the maximum benefit for humanity. For instance, we said that we are going to guarantee the shelter access to clean water and food uh as basic human rights. Not every place on earth right now has access to clean water and food. So this problem issue is this issue will be resolved through immigration or through uh providing access wherever they exist, wherever they need. So the the basic level of human dignity has been maintained all over the place. And then we can differ a few minor issues.

SPEAKER_00 42:37

Okay,

Direct Democracy Through Citizen Assemblies

SPEAKER_00 42:38

no, I like that. Okay, well, they're no longer country, so I think that correction you're gonna be districts. All right, I see that you see that's the thing. When most people come up with new ideas, they cannot replace what's already established. And I'm gonna just point out this example right now. I was assuming country still. He corrected me very graciously, say districts. Okay, that could still kind of work. It's gonna take some you know adjustment, you know, like all changes does. I mean, if you only adjustment, I mean, then you know, it's not really a change, right? So I appreciate that correction because it's one world government ready, all you know, all these borders and all that. The only border we got is really oceans and mountains at this point. Oh, you know, and and you know, I'm just gonna use America. America, that's definitely an issue. Just America itself, especially the wealthy, you know, is the wealthiest nation, but there's still plenty of people who do not have access to clean water and food. And it's definitely worse now because of the AI centers. They drain fresh water and all that. And I mean they use Flint, Michigan. Flint, Michigan is an area where they those people do not have access to clean water. Um, definitely clean water. That water has been contaminated, that issue has not been resolved. Maybe this one will go could fix that, and maybe they'll have, you know, people from You know, whatever whatever clean water is, well, that's we probably will not find that in America. Maybe they're gonna have to rely on the Canadian Canada as a district, make a collaboration with there to get more fresh water to help um the the territory, Michigan. Okay, I'm gonna call Michigan a territory. So they could resolve that issue. Maybe a collaboration like that could um work. Like I said, I could see some of the work. I just I I think my big my biggest concern personally, it's how it's gonna be executed, how it's gonna be done. It's not about what I got an idea of what it is. It's how it's gonna be executed because people will, because you know, people will argue and people prioritize some local district versus the other district. That's definitely good, I can see that as a potential, not potential conflicts. It's gonna happen more than once. Let's see how that could be resolved. And maybe allocation of certain um things, um, like the EU did, but the EU did, I think, too aggressively. They allocated most of that resource from another country while the the country that got that fish couldn't even touch it. I think that's I think that's too egregious. That's a bad example. That's why some people were skeptical that one world government. I mean, you know, EU's not one world government, but it is a major government that has all these European countries um together. So it's a close, it's a pretty it's kind of close, but not but not exactly. Because one world government has all the con all the districts, you know, under this one central government. And you know, so maybe it could work. You know, maybe it could work. You know, I I see, like I said, I personally see both um both ways how how it could be a great thing, how it could be uh a problem. Just be very um honest as a moderate, you know, and you know, maybe it's the way it's usually, but just know that you're gonna get a lot of, I'm sure you're already getting some resistance already. Because, oh no, that's crazy. What? Oh, so I'm gonna have some weird government telling me what I can do with my gun or my weed or whatever. And and some people, you know, and some people is gonna say, oh, it's a great thing, because look, shelter is a right. I don't have to be homeless in the streets. So you didn't have supports and the truth, and and of course, the the opposition as well, they're against your idea. But no, it's an interesting idea. That's why I'm also curious myself about that, about how we could get that. I thank you for that. Um, because normally I don't I don't normally like to be like friendly intro, but I'm very curious. I was too curious about that one world government thing. Maybe it could work. Like I said, um, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna be against it until I see a lot of problems with it, then I will be against it. Because I like to see what happens before I make a decision. So just, oh, one more government bad. Oh, Muhammad not a good person, right away. No, no, no. Let's see how it works. Let's see. You know, I could be skeptical, I got my concerns, but I want to see how it works. Maybe I could be proven wrong. That's a possibility. So we gotta have enough humility just to have that. Just, oh, you know, definitely don't act like Donald Trump on that one, you know. He thinks he's never wrong, um, even though he's done plenty of things that cause chaos. Definitely don't want that. That's the opposite humility. That's like arrogance and conceit to the point of delusion. Okay, don't want that. Don't want that at all. I feel like I'm talking a little too much. Alrighty then. Anything else you want to add before I start wrapping this up?

SPEAKER_01 47:21

Okay, just one minor thing. Sure. The comparison with the EU is a little bit inaccurate because uh they still rely on representative democracies. What I'm proposing is relying on direct democratic participation. As human beings, as regular people, we can vote on multiple issues and make decisions on our own. Instead of the current form of oligarchy spreading all over the world discussion in the US, where you have been learned by politicians on top of what I thank you for that.

SPEAKER_00 47:58

No, I I didn't make it clear that it's not the same as the one-world government because it does have its differences and it's got only just a European countries. But I like that you point out that difference because I didn't point out that specific difference. They do they still got their representatives representing that country and all that. You know, it's not it's not definitely not people representation, they're right. So that's a good point. That's uh that's a very good point. I mean, you see, and look, you know, look, listen, the host is not gonna get everything right, and I don't mind being corrected because I want to make sure my job is to make sure his point of view is well represented. If it means me being corrected, so be it. I don't care about my ego as much. And I already said this before. I don't mind being corrected. Because I don't fully get it. But maybe, but maybe that's what's needed to solve the problem. And maybe we should give a test run of it. Just a full, you know, just a thought. Maybe a pilot or something. I don't know. Maybe a pilot about how this could work, you know, be represented by the people instead of just, you know, you know, bureaucrats. Let's just use bureaucrats. Because bureaucrats do have their own agenda, and that's why some of this allocation, all this um fighting has happened. Yeah, so no, that's uh no, that that's a good point. That's a good point. All right, so anything else you want to add um besides that? Anything pops to mind? No, that's okay. Okay. Now

Final Thoughts And Where To Follow

SPEAKER_00 49:27

I just want to make sure, because I feel like I talked more than I thought I would. But I I you know, I don't mind you talking a lot. That's why it's more supposed to be free for it, but that's okay. So, my listeners, my viewers, go support Muhammad Nabul's, you know, works. He's not just, you know, one world government kind of guy. He's definitely a philosopher and author. He has plenty of books out. I'm gonna put a link to his website. Um, he does more than just you know AI ethics, you know, he does deal with critical thinking and how we should think, because I think that's being attacked very heavily, especially you know, just keep relying on AI in a lazy and a stupid way. Oh, how can I breathe? Oh, forget it. If you need AI to help you breathe, you're gonna die. You know, and especially if the loading's too slow, forget it, you're dead. That's very problematic. But if you don't know something, but if you're good with prompts, then AI could be a good tool. Just use it intentionally and intelligently and make sure you still have you're using your brain. And let me give a very crazy example. If I wanna, if I want to, if I type what is the best, cheapest restaurant in New York City, and the answer I got was a laundromat that's already closed, that's a problem. You know that AI is stupid. You know that answer is stupid. I said I want the best, cheapest restaurant in New York City, and yet it gave me the answer of a laundromat that's been shut down for a year. You should know that's a problem. You don't have to be intelligent to know that's a problem, and that's why you still have to be critical and be aware when you use AI. AI is a great tool. I'm not against AI use. Just don't just don't be lazy and just use this as a shortcut to everything because you, you know, socializing has decreased, critical thinking has decreased, creativity, forget it. I think um it's damage. I think if I'm gonna be dramatic, probably almost completely gone at this point. You know, the parts that make us human has been severely attacked. Now I'm not talking about violence with guns and heads being blown up. I'm talking about what makes us humans, what makes us great. That's being attacked because we're just relying on AI. You should do a whole bunch of stuff, and stuff that, to be honest, we don't even need AI for. Sometimes AI is good. When I use AI for something, I vet the source to make sure the source is good. The source is matching with the answer. There's times it doesn't. That's why I got this disclaimer saying AI makes mistakes. Because it can. Quite a few of them. Okay. So I love AI. Just don't make, just don't make it a replacement for your mind. Okay? Just don't. It's not good. It's not good at all. Alright, I think I'm done lecturing my listeners on that, on AI use. Again, follow Mohammed Nabil. Go to his site, and you can follow him in different social medias as well. He has a bunch of them. He has Facebook. I'm not gonna call it Meta. Alright, get used to it. Twitter, I'm not gonna call it X, YouTube, Instagram, and LinkedIn. Okay. You can follow him on all those social media platforms. Okay. And all that's gonna be listed on the episode on notes slash description. Okay. And then for one final time, is there anything you want to add before I really end this? No, it hasn't been a pleasure. Now I thank you for your insights. I definitely have learned something, especially better understanding what this one world government is. I'll say that much AI, not as not as much, but but definitely the one world government thing is that's definitely a bit of a learning curve for this brain here because it's an interesting idea. I'll say a bit crazy, but let's see. Maybe crazy might work. Maybe, because we all these existing systems, I'm just gonna say right now they're not working. Change is needed. This is why maybe I'm a little more open-minded. If you asked me this 10 years ago, I would have said, Muhammad, you're out of your mind. No, no one world government, no one world government. The way all this chaos is going on, we should probably give it a shot, test run it or something. I'm a little more open to it now. So that's all I'm gonna say about that. Again, people, follow Muhammad, his website, and his social media. So, this is the wrap show for this podcast.

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SPEAKER_00 54:24

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